I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

Part of the problem is that on most suits shield recharge is either high enough that no one bothers, or too low for a recharger/energizer/regulator to make a difference compared to say - adding another armor plate or shield hitpoints are too low to forgo another shield extender.

In fact some of the biggest issues with shields is that they seem to be designed *as a buffer* for armor. In eve I can use a shield tank as my primary means of tank on most of my ships (passive or active) and never ever take any armor damage (unless I'm about to lose my ship), where in dust there is never this option -I will always at some point end up taking armor damage on a 'shield tank' in dust-. Shield tanking doesn't 'work' in dust thus any suit that is designed for it always has to fit at least a few armor mods either a repper or a reactive plate unless they're suicidal.

In their current state I'd say that shields need some pretty big EHP buffs to be desireable over having to fit armor as well. If I were to rework them in some manner, I would rework the 'recharge delay / depleted delay' to be a constant shield boost cycle time (so if your basic 'delay' is 5 seconds your shield pulses for x amount every 5 seconds, or if your shield runs out it pulses for x amount every y seconds which can be reduced by regulators)

I actually love this idea

Because as a shield user, I can be in a 1 vs 1 going from cover to cover, and never get my shields to recharge because some a-hole is shooting me from 100m away with a assault rifle and its still registering as damage so my shields don't recharge

If shields recharged with pulses

Its constant reps even through damage

Kind of like armor does

Could have made a low slot or high slot module that reps shields at say 55 HP/5s (Same HP as a complex armor repair module reps in 5 seconds) or more because you can stack more armor than shields

But alas we are too late for DUST

A PG increase on Shield Energizers and Rechargers guarantees that no Matari suits will ever fit them.

A PG increase on Shield Energizers and Rechargers guarantees that no Matari suits will ever fit them.

Part of the problem is that on most suits shield recharge is either high enough that no one bothers, or too low for a recharger/energizer/regulator to make a difference compared to say - adding another armor plate or shield hitpoints are too low to forgo another shield extender.

Would it be better if they were flat bonuses instead?

So, a prototype recharger might be a flat +15hp/second boost.

Would it be better if they were flat bonuses instead?

So, a prototype recharger might be a flat +15hp/second boost.

I have no idea, shield ehp is still so low in comparison to armor that I can't really tell how things would be affected.

Shield are too low for what? What exactly are you trying to do where your shields arent enough?
I do just fine with 262 shield hp

I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

A PG increase on Shield Energizers and Rechargers guarantees that no Matari suits will ever fit them.

Are you a scout? If so you're compensating for low shields with massive bonuses to 'ewar', speed, recharge, low delays and low profile. In particular a caldari scout with their ability to scan almost everything within 60-70 meters can get away with low shields due to knowing where everything is!

Lower the CPU requirement for those modules by like 40% but add some PG consumption to it in return. Caldari heavys for example have at proto lvl 40PG spare while beeing short on CPU after the changes hit. Armor modules have beeing buffed alot in terms of HP, repair and fitting costs. In my opinion shield modules like rechargers/energizers need to be looked at. They are only there for regen and not adding more HP just like armor repairs.

I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

I think the main problem is that using them is redundant for every suit. If you are a suit that can shield tank, then you probably have good quick regen anyway, and if you are a suit that probably shouldnt bother shield tanking, you probably wont be interested in these anyway.

I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

I was looking at the usage numbers and they are still really low, we need to make them viable and buff them even more, buffing being a reduction in fitting as well.

Be careful not to buff based on usage alone. Sometimes it takes a while for people to realize how good something is. Everybody who plays MOBAs knows that things can go from unused to OMG SO OP PLS NERF with little to no change.

This isn't a moba though, I know, but it's still important to keep in mind. I look forward to the day when recharge speed and delay tanking are viable.

Minnie suit cant fit anything. Be it CPU or PG they both lack on it.