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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.19 13:57:00 -
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Destiny looks like another short shelf life game to me. Lots of hype, and lots of fun for the first month and then it gets old. I have zero plans to play it.
The bulk of that game is running around shooting AI, which frankly sucks. And from reviews I've seen and read, the PVP is bland. Maybe it will get better, who knows.
I'm gonna put Destiny into the category of "Games that will kill Dust" right along side GTA V, Assassin's Creed, Titan Fall, BF4, COD Ghosts, Dark Souls II and Watch Dogs.
We all know these games didn't kill Dust and neither will Destiny. Only CCP can kill Dust.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:11:00 -
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Do you have to convince yourself of how you feel about Destiny , so your garnering up some type of support system from like minded individuals ?
Must be worried since your already throwing out hate .
What did CCP promise you , tickets to next years FF and air fare ?
This is a joke .
Bungie actually has a plan that they are sticking to and options will be added at later dates .
Stop hating because CCP has already killed Dust at the past FF so get off of your soap boxes and take off your Dust 514 CCP shirt because really , no one in here cares and many will play Destiny and come up with their own thoughts about the game but it's really too early to tell and this game has a two year head start already .
How will Destiny be in two years ..??.. should have been your real question to ask and I believe that it will be further along then this game is at the same point and running smoother with better graphics for those who doubt the process of working with Sony and the PS4 .
Discussions are already in the mix for a PS5 and I haven't opened my box yet to my PS4 and wont use Destiny as a reason to until the feedback that I study about the game .
Just stop with the hate because if others are hating on Dust then they have a reason to do so , actually many reasons to do so .
Just be a bigger person about the whole ordeal .
How much is CCP paying you fan boy ?
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:15:00 -
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Very pretty game, though it smells liek they intend to convert it to a cashcow. 60-90 bucks upfront, then $10 every other month for the latest expansion pack. Also, PVP will never have meaning.
Destiny =/= Dust
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:21:00 -
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I feel very very very sorry for people who visit one game's forum to convince people to play other game. U got no real friends or no private life at all? I don't care about Destiny, would not even download free beta. |
Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:22:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Do you have to convince yourself of how you feel about Destiny , so your garnering up some type of support system from like minded individuals ?
Must be worried since your already throwing out hate .
What did CCP promise you , tickets to next years FF and air fare ?
This is a joke .
Bungie actually has a plan that they are sticking to and options will be added at later dates .
Stop hating because CCP has already killed Dust at the past FF so get off of your soap boxes and take off your Dust 514 CCP shirt because really , no one in here cares and many will play Destiny and come up with their own thoughts about the game but it's really too early to tell and this game has a two year head start already .
How will Destiny be in two years ..??.. should have been your real question to ask and I believe that it will be further along then this game is at the same point and running smoother with better graphics for those who doubt the process of working with Sony and the PS4 .
Discussions are already in the mix for a PS5 and I haven't opened my box yet to my PS4 and wont use Destiny as a reason to until the feedback that I study about the game .
Just stop with the hate because if others are hating on Dust then they have a reason to do so , actually many reasons to do so .
Just be a bigger person about the whole ordeal .
How much is CCP paying you fan boy ?
Lol. I didn't stay I hate Destiny. I said I won't play it nor will it kill Dust. There have been tons of posts about how great Destiny will be and I hear lots of people taking about it on comms. I was simply curious if anyone else doesn't care about this new game.
I also pointed out that everyone is talking about Destiny just like how the other games I listed were talked about. those others games were going to be so great and people would play them for years, but that didn't happen. I know many people that said one of those games was going to make them quit Dust forever yet within weeks they were all back in Dust.
None of those games have the longevity or staying power that Dust has and I seriously doubt Destiny will.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:24:00 -
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game lacks depth looks like a fruity Halo.
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:25:00 -
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Currently playing the beta atm, and so far, 8/10. No, not gonna kill dust but some people ARE gonna leave when it launches, though it won't be any forum peeps, just primarily fellow faceless clones in the crowd.
Pvp basically just goes back to the instagib fest that was unreal tournament.
And as far as your comment of "it's basically just shooting at bots".....how long have people been wanting pve in dust? How many people in Dust would EXCLUSIVELY play pve if it ever happened? A lot? Thought so.
what i think of when charging fg
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Izlare Lenix
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:31:00 -
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Mike De Luca wrote:Currently playing the beta atm, and so far, 8/10. No, not gonna kill dust but some people ARE gonna leave when it launches, though it won't be any forum peeps, just primarily fellow faceless clones in the crowd.
Pvp basically just goes back to the instagib fest that was unreal tournament.
And as far as your comment of "it's basically just shooting at bots".....how long have people been wanting pve in dust? How many people in Dust would EXCLUSIVELY play pve if it ever happened? A lot? Thought so.
You bring up a valid point about PVE. And it's true, many players enjoy it.
But then there are players like me that hate PVE. In EVE I only do PVE when I absolutely have to so I can have ISK to support my PVP addiction. The same would be true if Dust had PVE or if Legion becomes a real thing.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
3922
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:33:00 -
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You forgot 'the last of us'.
Seriously lol, that was another one.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
3922
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:37:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Mike De Luca wrote:Currently playing the beta atm, and so far, 8/10. No, not gonna kill dust but some people ARE gonna leave when it launches, though it won't be any forum peeps, just primarily fellow faceless clones in the crowd.
Pvp basically just goes back to the instagib fest that was unreal tournament.
And as far as your comment of "it's basically just shooting at bots".....how long have people been wanting pve in dust? How many people in Dust would EXCLUSIVELY play pve if it ever happened? A lot? Thought so. You bring up a valid point about PVE. And it's true, many players enjoy it. But then there are players like me that hate PVE. In EVE I only do PVE when I absolutely have to so I can have ISK to support my PVP addiction. The same would be true if Dust had PVE or if Legion becomes a real thing.
You have the same outlook as me.
Since PvP in gaming was implemented, iv never looked back. I do however enjoy cinematic type games like metro because I appreciate the effort that went in.
Grinding bots?, aargh. I will play destiny asap though to see what its like.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:44:00 -
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That's my point though, you have people in both camps, some people like pve, some like pvp.
The meat of destiny IS pve not gonna lie, and it is mission based,beta has 4 missions and 1 instance type mission where you need to have 2 other people (there's matchmaking if you don't), you can run with 2 other people for the story missions or go solo if you choose.
Or, if you just want to go pvp, you can. you can still level up and build your skills for your class, get equipment rewards, etc in there on top of bounties (simple tasks like win x amount of matches, kill 10 other people from behind, etc.) to get a big exp boost to keep leveling with ease, although from what i've seen opening up new skills does take a bit longer in there.
what i think of when charging fg
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:57:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote: You bring up a valid point about PVE. And it's true, many players enjoy it.
Pilots?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
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Posted - 2014.07.19 14:58:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Very pretty game, very well executed. Though it smells like a cashcow in the making. 60-90 bucks upfront, then $10 every other month for the latest expansion pack.
Also, PVP will never have meaning.
Destiny =/= Dust I'll take that .
I liked this game and was passionate about it but it seems like the Dust 514 community really doesn't have a say besides what you see in the forums , meaning they are not often listened to ... this game is ran by eve players . They have all the say so and the directions that the game was moving in before the wedding announcement was in the " eve " direction , which for there market I didn't mind because that system is brilliant but for the game it's self , the play should have stayed uniquely own or being it's self like the name .
Dust , putting boots on the ground and fighting .
I like the FW reliance on eve pilots .
It just seems that eve players were mad about Dust being on a console so they tried any and everything they could do and use to influence the outcome of the direction of this game which , in my opinion ... started the misdirection and bad decision making leading to the stagnation , bad outcomes like a lot of the " communities Dev's " leaving for what ever reasons , ill will and mistrust of the community and when I say the " community " I mean , those who play this game at heart and see it for what it's worth and are not trying to manipulate the system or mechanics for their own benefit ... they see the things that the community feels as whole heartedly about and they take that to heart and take up the mantle and fight for that cause .. i.e : Skill point refund for infantry and yes that sounds like a cheap attempt to do the same because I'm going to all refund postings and doing a positive because I understand that it's what this game needs , unless it's moving sooner than people think .
A day or two might be a set back but in the long run it would do more good than harm and would allow a chance for a more focused environment .. since that is really a big issue among a lot in the community .
But the pieces were falling into place and that's all the more reason that I really know that they won't do what would be good and allow a refund because they really don't care .
The deal is done already .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
111
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:01:00 -
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R1 R2 R2 R2 R2 R2 X X L2+R2 R1 R2 R1 R2 reload victory dance
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8850
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:02:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Do you have to convince yourself of how you feel about Destiny , so your garnering up some type of support system from like minded individuals ? I'm not getting that impression from the OP at all. If anything, I'm getting the impression from a lot of people that they have been hyping themselves up way too much for this and are now blinded by how mediocre it is but still try to convince themselves that the game is amazing and special. Of course, that is just words from some guy on the internet, so don't take it too harshly.
I've played the Destiny beta a lot. The weapons are very generic and uninspiring, aside from the fusion rifle which is brilliant (the highlight of the beta). The special abilities of the classes are extremely dull. The open world is somehow linear (similar to how the "open worlds" of Borderlands are linear). The enemy AI rely on increased HP and DMG values to increase the difficulty opposed to actual smart behavior. When you level up you also become vastly more superior in HP and DMG every time so taking on enemies a few levels below you is a cake walk and taking on enemies a few levels above you is near impossible as they one shot you. This also means that the only way to play with a friend is if they are within one or two levels of you. Why this leveling system is so popular is beyond me. And then PVP, which coming from the Halo creators is the absolute biggest disappointment. There is no new ideas and no depth to it at all. I'd go so far as to call it "tacked on." Fun for a few matches but quickly becomes boring as you realize there's really nothing to it.
If this game was made by anyone other than Bungie I doubt very many people would care.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying Destiny is garbage. I'm only saying that it adds nothing that we haven't seen before elsewhere. It'll still be a fun game to play through, but I doubt many people will stick around too long. Which is good, because Destiny 2 come out in 2016.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
930
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:10:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:
None of those games have the longevity or staying power that Dust has and I seriously doubt Destiny will.
Hey , they said that they have a ten year plan , sounds familiar ..??.. but they didn't mention any " Lasar anything " so hopefully it will work .
How old is COD ..??.. and no I don't play or like it ... just can't and no offence to those who do .
If Mass Effect ever took a game in this direction and just tried it out , wouldn't nobody be saying anything about anything because most would be playing that .. there are a ton of games coming from PC to the console so I know it can be done and done with passion .
Eve is the only thing that CCP has going for it's self and I don't hate eve players I just see the surroundings for what they are and it's just a shame that this couldn't all work out .
There are a few games that are in that ten year range in this market .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
930
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:17:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:You forgot 'the last of us'.
Seriously lol, that was another one. To be all fair and all they are in two different area's of game play .
So your telling me that wasn't a good game ?
I'm not talking about killing Dust because you have to be in the same market to do that and games like what you mentioned , any sports game or fighting like Mortal Combat ( even though that's going to be nice from what I've seen .) are not even in the same markets in game play and style .
You just can't compare the two besides the fact that there on consoles .
You need a game like Dust to compare it to .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
3923
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:19:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:You forgot 'the last of us'.
Seriously lol, that was another one. To be all fair and all they are in two different area's of game play . So your telling me that wasn't a good game ? I'm not talking about killing Dust because you have to be in the same market to do that and games like what you mentioned , any sports game or fighting like Mortal Combat ( even though that's going to be nice from what I've seen .) are not even in the same markets in game play and style . You just can't compare the two besides the fact that there on consoles . You need a game like Dust to compare it to .
What?, that wasn't directed at you lol.
Quite a few people said that it would kill dust.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
931
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:20:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Do you have to convince yourself of how you feel about Destiny , so your garnering up some type of support system from like minded individuals ? I'm not getting that impression from the OP at all. If anything, I'm getting the impression from a lot of people that they have been hyping themselves up way too much for this and are now blinded by how mediocre it is but still try to convince themselves that the game is amazing and special. Of course, that is just words from some guy on the internet, so don't take it too harshly. I've played the Destiny beta a lot. The weapons are very generic and uninspiring, aside from the fusion rifle which is brilliant (the highlight of the beta). The special abilities of the classes are extremely dull. The open world is somehow linear (similar to how the "open worlds" of Borderlands are linear). The enemy AI rely on increased HP and DMG values to increase the difficulty opposed to actual smart behavior. When you level up you also become vastly more superior in HP and DMG every time so taking on enemies a few levels below you is a cake walk and taking on enemies a few levels above you is near impossible as they one shot you. This also means that the only way to play with a friend is if they are within one or two levels of you. Why this leveling system is so popular is beyond me. And then PVP, which coming from the Halo creators is the absolute biggest disappointment. There is no new ideas and no depth to it at all. I'd go so far as to call it "tacked on." Fun for a few matches but quickly becomes boring as you realize there's really nothing to it. If this game was made by anyone other than Bungie I doubt very many people would care. DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying Destiny is garbage. I'm only saying that it adds nothing that we haven't seen before elsewhere. It'll still be a fun game to play through, but I doubt many people will stick around too long. Which is good, because Destiny 2 come out in 2016. Of course your not getting that feeling from the OP .
Like minded indeed .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:22:00 -
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Its all hype. doesnt mean it will not be a good game, just not all its cracked up to be.
It's just over exaggeration like The Last of Us, or GTAV.
see you space cowboy...
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Arcturis Vanguard
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:22:00 -
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There are aspects of dust that are far superior to other games out there. The biggest point is the fact that CCP has given deaths meaning. You lose something of value and can be infuriating where other games you can die and die over and over without a care.
Destiny is a very polished game. I have not experienced any lag, no terrain hang ups, no spotty hit detection and graphically amazing (ps4 user). Beta is obviously just scratching the surface of what bungie created and I'm expecting much more in the release and years to come as things expand.
What rattatai's been doing with these hot fixes is moving dust into a state that is far better then it has ever been in terms of balance between classes, weapons, etc but there is still ALOT of room to improve. My biggest gripe is terrain. I hate moving around walls and getting caught up, climbing a latter to the top and then having to jump to get over the invisible lip that catches you, the quicksand feeling moving down a small hill, the ****** ads bounce when on the side of a hill.... we all know these issues..
I'm sure in time these will get fixed, but with how quick games and technology are developing it just might be a little to late, but in time we will all see what transpires.
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Caldari Scout V
Caldari logistic IV
Prof V HMG & FORGE
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
931
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:23:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:You forgot 'the last of us'.
Seriously lol, that was another one. To be all fair and all they are in two different area's of game play . So your telling me that wasn't a good game ? I'm not talking about killing Dust because you have to be in the same market to do that and games like what you mentioned , any sports game or fighting like Mortal Combat ( even though that's going to be nice from what I've seen .) are not even in the same markets in game play and style . You just can't compare the two besides the fact that there on consoles . You need a game like Dust to compare it to . What?, that wasn't directed at you lol. Quite a few people said that it would kill dust. No Tech , I'm not trying to e-peen ... I'm just saying that Last of Us was a good game .
Could it kill Dust , hell no but that's even more so because you really can't compare the two .
You know I admire your opinion , I would never challenge you because I agree with a lot of what you say but I was just saying that Last of US was a good game that's all and it's silly for people who want to compare the two games because you really can't besides the fact that there on consoles .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Jathniel
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
1108
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:23:00 -
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Destiny is good actually.
Not over-hyped.
They didn't deliver on the cross-platform play like they promised, but that's it. The story is great. The PVP is fun, and implements a SIMPLE system to keep the games balanced and fun. - The average stats and performance of players in a pvp match are calculated, and the lower players stats are bumped up to this calculated average to keep them competitive. Simplicity. Works well. Higher levels, still keep their gear advantage, and noobs can still put down. No busted aiming mechanics. No arbitrary hit detection issues. Just a smooth flowing game, that has a lot more content in it's beta than originally expected.
I find it better than Dust. Dust is only keeping me around, because I want to show support for Legion. The faster Dust dies and Legion rises, the better. Give me a better way to show support for Legion, and I won't support Dust at all. Because Legion (and Star Citizen) are the only things that are going to pull me away from Destiny. (Besides my occasional Battlefield 4 fix.)
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:25:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:You forgot 'the last of us'.
Seriously lol, that was another one. To be all fair and all they are in two different area's of game play . So your telling me that wasn't a good game ? I'm not talking about killing Dust because you have to be in the same market to do that and games like what you mentioned , any sports game or fighting like Mortal Combat ( even though that's going to be nice from what I've seen .) are not even in the same markets in game play and style . You just can't compare the two besides the fact that there on consoles . You need a game like Dust to compare it to . What?, that wasn't directed at you lol. Quite a few people said that it would kill dust. No Tech , I'm not trying to e-peen ... I'm just saying that Last of Us was a good game . Could it kill Dust , hell no but that's even more so because you really can't compare the two . You know I admire your opinion , I would never challenge you because I agree with a lot of what you say but I was just saying that Last of US was a good game that's all and it's silly for people who want to compare the two games because you really can't besides the fact that there on consoles .
Ah right yeah.
I play planetside 2 and I can't see how that will kill dust. They are both good and different.
I thinks dusts real enemy is CCP itself lol.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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TechMechMeds
Techs Laboratory
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:27:00 -
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I'm going to play dust now so sorry for late/no reply lol.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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Badonk Adonk
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:27:00 -
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How can any game kill dust? Dust was stillborn.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
932
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:32:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:
I thinks dusts real enemy is CCP itself lol.
I know right .
That's the sad part about it .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
603
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:35:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Do you have to convince yourself of how you feel about Destiny , so your garnering up some type of support system from like minded individuals ?
Must be worried since your already throwing out hate .
What did CCP promise you , tickets to next years FF and air fare ?
This is a joke .
Bungie actually has a plan that they are sticking to and options will be added at later dates .
Stop hating because CCP has already killed Dust at the past FF so get off of your soap boxes and take off your Dust 514 CCP shirt because really , no one in here cares and many will play Destiny and come up with their own thoughts about the game but it's really too early to tell and this game has a two year head start already .
How will Destiny be in two years ..??.. should have been your real question to ask and I believe that it will be further along then this game is at the same point and running smoother with better graphics for those who doubt the process of working with Sony and the PS4 .
Discussions are already in the mix for a PS5 and I haven't opened my box yet to my PS4 and wont use Destiny as a reason to until the feedback that I study about the game .
Just stop with the hate because if others are hating on Dust then they have a reason to do so , actually many reasons to do so .
Just be a bigger person about the whole ordeal .
How much is CCP paying you fan boy ? How much is bungie paying you for defending them?
Fanboi...
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2361
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:42:00 -
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I tried to play other games, but I can't! I CAN'T!!
I play for like 15 min. get bored, then I come back to Dust.
CPM1 Underdog
Greedy Bastards
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
961
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:43:00 -
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op ccp has already killed dust. staying power? what staying power, if you think dust is going to be around in ten years or even 5 more, then you are delusional at best. ccp is focusing on legion and even for the most part now. dust is merely an afterthought. |
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