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Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3635	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:23:00 - [1] - Quote It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5350	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:31:00 - [2] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. Because.Reasons. Stealth Storm
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2252	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:33:00 - [3] - Quote Because no one sat down and explained the original visions for DUST in Alpha to CCP Rattati. And Logibro is way to new to know any of it. Tackling a smaller group of issues at a time is working but other side effect issues crop up as the original concepts show their face in the midst of trying to make sense of them. Probably comes with a lot of daunting sinking feelings for Rattati as he realizes it would of been easier to just complete some original concepts that just where never polished up. But he is literally Stevie Wonder walking around in a football field looking for a chair in trying to make sense of the Rat nest CCP Shanghai left with DUST 514.
BLOOD Ruler The Lionheart Coalition 554	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:34:00 - [4] - Quote The Amarr is the best we deserve more.One reason Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5350	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:36:00 - [5] - Quote I think the CPU/PG increase the amarr suits have is one of those ''stealth racial traits'' suits have.Like Minmatar always having faster speed and better stamina regen or caldari having better shield recharge/delay or GAl having innate Armor rep.etc... Stealth Storm
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3636	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:43:00 - [6] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think the CPU/PG increase the amarr suits have is one of those ''stealth racial traits'' suits have.Like Minmatar always having faster speed and better stamina regen or caldari having better shield recharge/delay or GAl having innate Armor rep.etc... I don't think this is in the same vain though. It made sense before, but now I think CPU/PG levels should be within a few points. Yes the Amarr can have more, but 50 CPU and 10 more PG is a tad crazy. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5350	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:49:00 - [7] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think the CPU/PG increase the amarr suits have is one of those ''stealth racial traits'' suits have.Like Minmatar always having faster speed and better stamina regen or caldari having better shield recharge/delay or GAl having innate Armor rep.etc... I don't think this is in the same vain though. It made sense before, but now I think CPU/PG levels should be within a few points. Yes the Amarr can have more, but 50 CPU and 10 more PG is a tad crazy. At proto level: 50CPU and 10 PG is actually nothing. Not to mention that reducing Amarr Assaults (specifically) CPU and PG would come next to a CPU and PG decrease in cost for the SCR's. Now im not saying the Amarr doesnt have an advantage here. But think about it.Besides More total HP and stamina, their thing is to be stronger through the use of Better Modules = More CPU and PG. What you are asking for me is the equivalent of me saying: Well, now amarr are the true armor tankers, when are WE getting Natural Passive Reps on all our suits? And since all suits are close to full balance,When are Gal going to loose them? See? and to be honest i dont really think its that much of a problem balance wise. Every suit has pro's and cons. I would agree for a Slight CPU-PG increase for other suits : like 18CPU and 3 PG there by decreasing the difference vs amarr. Stealth Storm
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3636	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:58:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think the CPU/PG increase the amarr suits have is one of those ''stealth racial traits'' suits have.Like Minmatar always having faster speed and better stamina regen or caldari having better shield recharge/delay or GAl having innate Armor rep.etc... I don't think this is in the same vain though. It made sense before, but now I think CPU/PG levels should be within a few points. Yes the Amarr can have more, but 50 CPU and 10 more PG is a tad crazy. At proto level: 50CPU and 10 PG is actually nothing. Not to mention that reducing Amarr Assaults (specifically) CPU and PG would come next to a CPU and PG decrease in cost for the SCR's. Now im not saying the Amarr doesnt have an advantage here. But think about it.Besides More total HP and stamina, their thing is to be stronger through the use of Better Modules = More CPU and PG. What you are asking for me is the equivalent of me saying: Well, now amarr are the true armor tankers, when are WE getting Natural Passive Reps on all our suits? And since all suits are close to full balance,When are Gal going to loose them? See? and to be honest i dont really think its that much of a problem balance wise. Every suit has pro's and cons. I would agree for a Slight CPU-PG increase for other suits : like 20CPU and 3 PG there by decreasing the difference vs amarr. we are talking base here. With max stats the number becomes even larger. You also forget to mention the higher base ehp, if you'd like to compare that to Gallente it would make sense, but not CPU/PG. Amarr are also meant to have the least amount of slots in the Assault class and they got a buff to bring them in line with the other suits, seems fair. Except the trade was they got more CPU/PG then other suits...now, there is no trade off. The ScR has a higher PG usage yes, but not enough to warrant so much more PG. I think Caldari should 30+ base CPU and 3 base PG and Gallente 20+ CPU and 5 PG. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5350	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:01:00 - [9] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I think the CPU/PG increase the amarr suits have is one of those ''stealth racial traits'' suits have.Like Minmatar always having faster speed and better stamina regen or caldari having better shield recharge/delay or GAl having innate Armor rep.etc... I don't think this is in the same vain though. It made sense before, but now I think CPU/PG levels should be within a few points. Yes the Amarr can have more, but 50 CPU and 10 more PG is a tad crazy. At proto level: 50CPU and 10 PG is actually nothing. Not to mention that reducing Amarr Assaults (specifically) CPU and PG would come next to a CPU and PG decrease in cost for the SCR's. Now im not saying the Amarr doesnt have an advantage here. But think about it.Besides More total HP and stamina, their thing is to be stronger through the use of Better Modules = More CPU and PG. What you are asking for me is the equivalent of me saying: Well, now amarr are the true armor tankers, when are WE getting Natural Passive Reps on all our suits? And since all suits are close to full balance,When are Gal going to loose them? See? and to be honest i dont really think its that much of a problem balance wise. Every suit has pro's and cons. I would agree for a Slight CPU-PG increase for other suits : like 20CPU and 3 PG there by decreasing the difference vs amarr. we are talking base here. With max stats the number becomes even larger. You also forget to mention the higher base ehp, if you'd like to compare that to Gallente it would make sense, but not CPU/PG. Amarr are also meant to have the least amount of slots in the Assault class and they got a buff to bring them in line with the other suits, seems fair. Except the trade was they got more CPU/PG then other suits...now, there is no trade off. The ScR has a higher PG usage yes, but not enough to warrant so much more PG. I think Caldari should 30+ base CPU and 3 base PG and Gallente 20+ CPU and 5 PG. GÖª I did mention the higher EHP values of the Amarr suits GÖª Im against nerfing. If your problem is the CPU/PG of the amarr COMPARED to other suits, as you proposed; it would be better to buff the CPU/PG of other suits. Stealth Storm
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3637	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:04:00 - [10] - Quote I just said the same thing! I don't want the Amarr nerfed, I just want other assault suits to get a equal buff in terms of CPU/PG. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 198	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:04:00 - [11] - Quote You didn't know? We Gallente have been given the worst of everything, and yet we still kick ass! So CCP is taking it one step further to assure Amarr dominance lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5350	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:07:00 - [12] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: You didn't know? We Gallente have been given the worst of everything, and yet we still kick ass! So CCP is taking it one step further to assure Amarr dominance lol! b please. Stealth Storm
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2303	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:08:00 - [13] - Quote My reasoning. I am the skybound warrior, you will know to run when you hear the music from above that make panties disappear.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3815	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:19:00 - [14] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: You didn't know? We Gallente have been given the worst of everything, and yet we still kick ass! So CCP is taking it one step further to assure Amarr dominance lol! b please. We only have 3 weapons and no vehicles. Only gold and our sheer awesomeness keep us relevant. (Also: The FOTM gallente logi, followed by it's successor the gallente scout, would like to have a word with you.) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5355	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:22:00 - [15] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: You didn't know? We Gallente have been given the worst of everything, and yet we still kick ass! So CCP is taking it one step further to assure Amarr dominance lol! b please. We only have 3 weapons and no vehicles. Only gold and our sheer awesomeness keep us relevant. (Also: The FOTM gallente logi, followed by it's successor the gallente scout, would like to have a word with you.) Forgot how The AR and the SG are 2 of the 5 most used light weapons. The Duvolle being FOTM for a great part of Dust 514's life time. The Gal heavy being the new Badassest Heavy out there. I could go on.But i wont. But i could. Stealth Storm
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3641	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:32:00 - [16] - Quote We also use to have the fastest stamina regain/max to make up for being slow but guess who took that O_O Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12030	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:45:00 - [17] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. See our weapons? Yeah they are some of the hardest to fit. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2708	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:50:00 - [18] - Quote You mean how heavy suits have a whole fleet load of CPU/PG? You can fit a MLT heavy full of proto gear and STILL have like half of your fitting reqs unused.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12031	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:56:00 - [19] - Quote Joel II X wrote: You mean how heavy suits have a whole fleet load of CPU/PG? You can fit a MLT heavy full of proto gear and STILL have like half of your fitting reqs unused. Doubt it. I can barely fit my Templar Sent "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11133	Posted - 2014.07.19 05:15:00 - [20] - Quote Because apparently SCR costs 50 more CPU and 10 more PG than my Assault Rifle. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC

Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3641	Posted - 2014.07.19 05:16:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. See our weapons? Yeah they are some of the hardest to fit. Yeah, I'm going with Cat Merc on this one. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11134	Posted - 2014.07.19 05:19:00 - [22] - Quote And apparently 92CPU/10PG laser is harder to fit than my 90CPU/13PG Duvolle. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3641	Posted - 2014.07.19 05:25:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: And apparently 92CPU/10PG laser is harder to fit than my 90CPU/13PG Duvolle. Wait...are you telling me...that the Duvolle takes more PG to fit!? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11134	Posted - 2014.07.19 05:26:00 - [24] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Cat Merc wrote: And apparently 92CPU/10PG laser is harder to fit than my 90CPU/13PG Duvolle. Wait...are you telling me...that the Duvolle takes more PG to fit!? Atrocious isn't it? Just for that I want my suit to get an extra 60 CPU. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4544	Posted - 2014.07.19 10:26:00 - [25] - Quote Show us your definition of the best assault fits on protofits, per race, and then we can discuss. Anecdotal chat about a single light weapon is not very interesting. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6605	Posted - 2014.07.19 11:41:00 - [26] - Quote Anecdotal is what does Forums does best! see you space cowboy...
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2014.07.19 12:03:00 - [27] - Quote does it even matter when the assault class is completely invalidated by scouts? no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2014.07.19 12:09:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Show us your definition of the best assault fits on protofits, per race, and then we can discuss. Anecdotal chat about a single light weapon is not very interesting. here are my ak.o viziam lr fits Lr assault Trueblood 2x enhanced light damage mods 1x complex light damage mod viziam laser rifle m209 assault smg stnd flux nade ishukone gauged nano 3 complex armor plates 1 complex armor repper 150 shields 745 armor 9.37 hps 6.05 runspeed and Lr assault Heretic 1x complex damage mods 2x enhanced damage mod viziam laser rifle syndicate smg ex11 packed av nades ishukone gauged nano hives 2 complex armor plates 2 complex armor reppers 150 shield 597 armor 18.75 hps 4.33 ms 6.37 ms no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave sometimes i run weak guns just to make pubstomping more of a challenge
Dragonmeballs Better Hide R Die 46	Posted - 2014.07.19 13:36:00 - [29] - Quote Because the Amarr are the good guys?
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3641	Posted - 2014.07.19 15:10:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Show us your definition of the best assault fits on protofits, per race, and then we can discuss. Anecdotal chat about a single light weapon is not very interesting. I fit the ak.0 exactly as I would fit my gk.0, except I fitted Amarr weapons on the ak.0 and Gallente weapons on the gk.0. ak.0 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5584 I think that's the link. CPU 426.65 / 459.375 gF PG 91.75 / 91.875 kW Shield 150 [295.2] HP Armor 300 [448.5] HP eHP 450 [743.7] HP Shield Recharge Rate 20 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay 7 s Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 10 [11.45] s Armor Repair Rate 0 [20.75] HP/s Movement Speed 4.8 [4.75] m/s Strafe Speed 4.32 [4.28] m/s Sprint Speed 7.06 [6.99] m/s Stamina 262.5 gk.0 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/5585 Fitting Summary CPU 386.984375 / 393.75 gF PG 79.8125 / 78.75 kW Shield 150 [258.9] HP Armor 262.5 [411] HP eHP 412.5 [669.9] HP Shield Recharge Rate 20 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay 7 s Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 10 [11.02] s Armor Repair Rate 2 [22.75] HP/s Movement Speed 5 [4.95] m/s Strafe Speed 4.5 [4.46] m/s Sprint Speed 7.35 [7.28] m/s Stamina183 So you can see that even with replacing a complex extender with a basic one, your still over the fitting limit. Even with the ScR's higher fitting requirements it's still far easier to fit the ak.0 over the gk.0/ck.0 I don't know what's best to use, but I do know the gap and far too large now that the ak.0 as the same amount of slots we have, and with the upcoming buff to the Amarr ak.0 it's going to be even larger. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3643	Posted - 2014.07.19 16:25:00 - [31] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Anecdotal is what does Forums does best! I'm still not sure how more CPU/PG then any other assault suit is Anecdotal. It's totes true! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12035	Posted - 2014.07.19 21:10:00 - [32] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. See our weapons? Yeah they are some of the hardest to fit. Yeah, I'm going with Cat Merc on this one. Then I'll take my weapons fitting reductions and go on home thank you very much. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3648	Posted - 2014.07.20 00:44:00 - [33] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. See our weapons? Yeah they are some of the hardest to fit. Yeah, I'm going with Cat Merc on this one. Then I'll take my weapons fitting reductions and go on home thank you very much. Run away! It's what your race is good at! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12043	Posted - 2014.07.20 19:53:00 - [34] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: It made sense when they had the least slots, but now they everything is the same it just seems like they are still going to be the best assault suit. Yes I know the ScR takes the most PG, but it doesn't justify such a massive gap. See our weapons? Yeah they are some of the hardest to fit. Yeah, I'm going with Cat Merc on this one. Then I'll take my weapons fitting reductions and go on home thank you very much. Run away! It's what your race is good at! Compares Minmatar cowardice speed to Amarrian speed..... Minmatar run much faster. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3657	Posted - 2014.07.20 20:27:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Then I'll take my weapons fitting reductions and go on home thank you very much. Run away! It's what your race is good at! Compares Minmatar cowardice speed to Amarrian speed..... Minmatar run much faster.[/quote] They are also made out of tin cans and sadness. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3659	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:13:00 - [36] - Quote I would still like to know. The Amarr has nearly 100 PG in Charlie. Give Caldari 15 more base CPU and Gallente 3 more base PG. Then I will be happy. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 112	Posted - 2014.07.21 16:26:00 - [37] - Quote Because you need a bit more to power that much swag. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 46	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:02:00 - [38] - Quote Joel II X wrote: You mean how heavy suits have a whole fleet load of CPU/PG? You can fit a MLT heavy full of proto gear and STILL have like half of your fitting reqs unused. Lol. ehmm no..
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 113	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:04:00 - [39] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: Joel II X wrote: You mean how heavy suits have a whole fleet load of CPU/PG? You can fit a MLT heavy full of proto gear and STILL have like half of your fitting reqs unused. Lol. ehmm no.. Agreed, such bile. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 46	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:08:00 - [40] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: Joel II X wrote: You mean how heavy suits have a whole fleet load of CPU/PG? You can fit a MLT heavy full of proto gear and STILL have like half of your fitting reqs unused. Lol. ehmm no.. Agreed, such bile. I know right, the things you read on the forums lately. Absolutely mind-boggling with usually a fesces smell hanging around it...

RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 114	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:23:00 - [41] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: RendonaSix wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: Joel II X wrote: You mean how heavy suits have a whole fleet load of CPU/PG? You can fit a MLT heavy full of proto gear and STILL have like half of your fitting reqs unused. Lol. ehmm no.. Agreed, such bile. I know right, the things you read on the forums lately. Absolutely mind-boggling with usually a fesces smell hanging around it... What you said was a lie, not an opinion or even close to subjective. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3660	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:45:00 - [42] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: Because you need a bit more to power that much swag. While I agree that the heavy is one of the best looking suits in the game, the mediums and lights on the other hand...I'm not a fan of snakes. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 114	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:48:00 - [43] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: RendonaSix wrote: Because you need a bit more to power that much swag. While I agree that the heavy is one of the best looking suits in the game, the mediums and lights on the other hand...I'm not a fan of snakes. But swag though, how much more of a legitimate reason do you need?. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3107	Posted - 2014.07.21 17:50:00 - [44] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: (Also: The FOTM gallente logi, followed by it's successor the gallente scout, would like to have a word with you.) You missed the GalSentinel. Though 2/3 is good enough. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
RendonaSix Techs Laboratory 117	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:16:00 - [45] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: (Also: The FOTM gallente logi, followed by it's successor the gallente scout, would like to have a word with you.) You missed the GalSentinel. Though 2/3 is good enough. That's a bit much for a bunch of scumbags. 1/0 would be fair, maybe just 0/0 with no other slots. They should be so greatful that they are allowed to even walk let alone fend for themselves. Pffft, the cheek of it, 2/3 he says. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3823	Posted - 2014.07.21 18:18:00 - [46] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: (Also: The FOTM gallente logi, followed by it's successor the gallente scout, would like to have a word with you.) You missed the GalSentinel. Though 2/3 is good enough. Got me there to an extent, but the advantages it has over the Amarr sentinel are not quite as large as was/is the case with the scout and logi. Nonetheless, the point stands, the Gallente have no grounds to complain. Only the reputed Caldari master race had even close to as much time as OP FOTM. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3665	Posted - 2014.07.22 14:26:00 - [47] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: (Also: The FOTM gallente logi, followed by it's successor the gallente scout, would like to have a word with you.) You missed the GalSentinel. Though 2/3 is good enough. Got me there to an extent, but the advantages it has over the Amarr sentinel are not quite as large as was/is the case with the scout and logi. Nonetheless, the point stands, the Gallente have no grounds to complain. Only the reputed Caldari master race had even close to as much time as OP FOTM. The GalSentinel gets beat by Amarr hands down. No ifs ands or buts. Run a Gallente sentinel and try to 1v1 a Amarr sentinel. We had a OP Logi and so did Caldari, but honestly all Logis were OP. It just so happened that Gallente had the most low slots to stack those damn plates. Again, we had a OP scout. F-ing plate stackers got that nerfed. At least it's beingn replaced by the Amarr scout(which people will defend by saying "it's Amarr! It should have a ton of ehp!) And our assault has always been awful. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 555	Posted - 2014.07.22 14:38:00 - [48] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Then I'll take my weapons fitting reductions and go on home thank you very much. Run away! It's what your race is good at! Compares Minmatar cowardice speed to Amarrian speed..... Minmatar run much faster. They are also made out of tin cans and sadness.[/quote] Why does everybody say Minmatar is really fast....that 1 m/s difference is so insignifcant with sprinting glitches, high RoF weapons, and less eHP. The only other thing it does quickly is hacking which isn't really EWAR. "One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only Mk.0 Scouts will do that. NK are my Teeth, Kin Cats are my Legs.
Luis rules 1st Valor Coalition Red Whines. 26	Posted - 2014.07.22 14:44:00 - [49] - Quote First of all, let's make this straight, it is wrong that they have more CPU/PG. And don't give the pathetic "SR (Or ScR) used more CPU/PG", because then that means they cannot use any other weapon and use better those extra points. Then give them a part of that bonus if they fit a scramble rifle. Otherwise, no extra CPU/PG.
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 580	Posted - 2014.07.22 14:52:00 - [50] - Quote Luis rules 1st wrote: First of all, let's make this straight, it is wrong that they have more CPU/PG. And don't give the pathetic "SR (Or ScR) used more CPU/PG", because then that means they cannot use any other weapon and use better those extra points. Then give them a part of that bonus if they fit a scramble rifle. Otherwise, no extra CPU/PG. We had fewer slots and assaults haven't been rebalanced yet. Also our rifle takes seven PG more than yours does and fitting something else is pointlessly silly. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1

Luis rules 1st Valor Coalition Red Whines. 28	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:00:00 - [51] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: We had fewer slots and assaults haven't been rebalanced yet. Also our rifle takes seven PG more than yours does and fitting something else is pointlessly silly. You are pointing what you don't have. But what about that extra HP as well? Oh wait, we shouldn't get into details, right? Next asnwer: But I don't have as much shield as a caldari assault... nor the minmatar's speed... And guess that makes me silly.... because I have Combat, Assault and Scramble rifles, but only the minmatar assault.... Yeah, I should get every assault suit and only use those weapons with its specific suit. That makes perfect sense.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3648	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:04:00 - [52] - Quote Luis rules 1st wrote: Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: We had fewer slots and assaults haven't been rebalanced yet. Also our rifle takes seven PG more than yours does and fitting something else is pointlessly silly. You are pointing what you don't have. But what about that extra HP as well? Oh wait, we shouldn't get into details, right? Next asnwer: But I don't have as much shield as a caldari assault... nor the minmatar's speed... And guess that makes me silly.... because I have Combat, Assault and Scramble rifles, but only the minmatar assault.... Yeah, I should get every assault suit and only use those weapons with its specific suit. That makes perfect sense. Well pal let's talk about the extra hp, it's only 30 more hp added to armor for the speed penalty between an advance and proto plate. So if you want to complain about that go ahead you'll just be laughed at. Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3648	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:06:00 - [53] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Then I'll take my weapons fitting reductions and go on home thank you very much. Run away! It's what your race is good at! Compares Minmatar cowardice speed to Amarrian speed..... Minmatar run much faster. They are also made out of tin cans and sadness. Why does everybody say Minmatar is really fast....that 1 m/s difference is so insignifcant with sprinting glitches, high RoF weapons, and less eHP. The only other thing it does quickly is hacking which isn't really EWAR.[/quote] How is hacking not "really" ewar? Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt! The eyes of God compelles you!!!
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3665	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:06:00 - [54] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Luis rules 1st wrote: First of all, let's make this straight, it is wrong that they have more CPU/PG. And don't give the pathetic "SR (Or ScR) used more CPU/PG", because then that means they cannot use any other weapon and use better those extra points. Then give them a part of that bonus if they fit a scramble rifle. Otherwise, no extra CPU/PG. We had fewer slots and assaults haven't been rebalanced yet. Also our rifle takes seven PG more than yours does and fitting something else is pointlessly silly. 7 More PG doesn't seem to explain why the suit gets 70 more CPU and 13 more PG in charlie(max skills) Not to mention, with max skills, the ScR and AR have a 4 point difference in PG. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Luis rules 1st Valor Coalition Red Whines. 28	Posted - 2014.07.22 15:14:00 - [55] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: 7 More PG doesn't seem to explain why the suit gets 70 more CPU and 13 more PG in charlie(max skills) Not to mention, with max skills, the ScR and AR have a 4 point difference in PG. But I need those 13 PG to be able to fit those 4 PG..... and a bunch of stuff. But shhh.... don't let others know.... (Guess there's no way to make sarcasm to sound right in text, so...)


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