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Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 145	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:21:00 - [1] - Quote This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender..) Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
SINISTER CORPERATION SINISTER DEATH SQUAD 0	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote Victor889 wrote: This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender..) The ADV lvl shoots full auto and maybe the dude has been waking up at 8:00am each morning since the game started playing until 3:00am at night then going to sleep and repeating for that past 2 years and that's why he has quote on quote "skill". you should feel sorry for the poor guy.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 231	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:29:00 - [3] - Quote Not saying I don't believe you, but back in the OP TAR days people thought I was using a modded controller because of how fast I could fire. I wasn't. That being said, I never went 50/0 either.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10476	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:33:00 - [4] - Quote You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 116	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:46:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 145	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:56:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? No, just the standard (adv) ScR (I do know the difference) Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 6244	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:58:00 - [7] - Quote You can fire that thing ******** fast without a modded controller. Just saying. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Aardicus G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 58	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:04:00 - [8] - Quote so is this the new 'thing', run around and spam ScR's? I've seen this fit alot more recently, calscout + ScR. Seems quite effective. so one should just find target and then hit fire as fast as possible? while hip firing I presume? think I'll go buy some militia ScRs and try this out sometime... µòàµ¢¦n+ÜtƒÑs++tƒÑs+¦n+îtÖ+µê¦S+ìµ«ån+¢S+ìtƒÑs++FÇîtƒÑs+¦n+îS+Çsï¥S+ÇF¦án+¢S+ìtƒÑs++n+îS+ìtƒÑs+¦n+îµ»Åµê¦s+àµ«åpÇé
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10947	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:06:00 - [9] - Quote It's max fire rate is higher than the world record for mouse clicks a second I think that's excessive and only allows for silly modded controllers. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
headbust SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 64	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:09:00 - [10] - Quote i've had scr for awhile and never really used it. i through it on my gal scout to try it out and u can fire that thing super fast no problem it is a super easy fit a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 44	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:09:00 - [11] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 116	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:12:00 - [12] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Zindorak wrote: Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube ohohohohhohohohohohohohohohohohordgjwopgfweaogfawf oh yea! thanks for the info. BTW is it considered cheating and will i get ban for using it?
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3533	Posted - 2014.07.14 21:02:00 - [13] - Quote Zindorak wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Zindorak wrote: Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube ohohohohhohohohohohohohohohohohordgjwopgfweaogfawf oh yea! thanks for the info. BTW is it considered cheating and will i get ban for using it? No you wont get banned but you will help getting another weapon nerfed into the ground like they did with the TAC AR.
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2309	Posted - 2014.07.14 21:06:00 - [14] - Quote Kdr matchmaking fixes this. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.07.14 21:17:00 - [15] - Quote Zindorak wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Zindorak wrote: Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube ohohohohhohohohohohohohohohohohordgjwopgfweaogfawf oh yea! thanks for the info. BTW is it considered cheating and will i get ban for using it? Okay so i guess you didnt read that i returned it.......im a scout that uses either shotguns or smg so wth do i need a modded controller for?
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 764	Posted - 2014.07.14 21:25:00 - [16] - Quote I use the SCR but don't have a modded controller. I can fire the clip from 45 down to 27 before overheating which is 18 shoots. I know someone who started using the modded controller with SCR and he can get down to the low 20's before overheating. This is truly BS. Why can they get more shoots off with a modded controller. The overheat is what keeps the SCR balanced and if modded controllers can get 5 or 6 more shoots before overheating that it's totally unfair and s clear exploit. I have used the SCR for 7 months and knowing modded controller users gaff such an advantage angers me. I am know in favor of CCP reducing the ROF to a more human level. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1042	Posted - 2014.07.14 22:10:00 - [17] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: You can fire that thing ****** fast without a modded controller. Just saying. This. I get hatemail quite frequently when I run my scramblers. Quote: You $&^%^%** %^^&^ modded controller an ur lag switch! Amarrica! Destiny Beta SoonGäó
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1729	Posted - 2014.07.14 22:19:00 - [18] - Quote You can also tell by how the weapon sounds when fired and yes I have heard a few of you out there using them. I do not care for they are the same people who use them like they do every other FOTM. I skilled in Cal Scout for the look and the slot layout, now that it is the FOTM I do not use it. Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4308	Posted - 2014.07.14 22:22:00 - [19] - Quote It'll be okay. What's left of the players that give enough ***** to use modded controllers will be gone Thursday. Party on. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11836	Posted - 2014.07.14 22:24:00 - [20] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: It'll be okay. What's left of the players that give enough ***** to use modded controllers will be gone Thursday. Party on. Yeah but no other FPS will ever have a weapon half so satisfying as the Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle..... Oh wait...... DMR and Fusion Rifle.... "I guess this is goodbye for now Little One. This is how you will become one of us, one of the Amarr." - Kador Ouryon
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1514	Posted - 2014.07.14 22:36:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It's max fire rate is higher than the world record for mouse clicks a second I think that's excessive and only allows for silly modded controllers. Get me a link to that record so I can break it! I've once hooked my DS3 to my pc and measured an average of 6-8 aps over 10 seconds with initial peaks around 11 aps (which is the SCR's RoF)consistently as long a I'd get short breaks in between (short as in seconds, not minutes). Eleven clicks per second aren't even that impressive for very short bursts. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2901	Posted - 2014.07.14 23:30:00 - [22] - Quote As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling, Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding. Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11836	Posted - 2014.07.14 23:33:00 - [23] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling, Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding. Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Ugh more nerfs...... on a gun that isnt even unbalanced. "I guess this is goodbye for now Little One. This is how you will become one of us, one of the Amarr." - Kador Ouryon
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 272	Posted - 2014.07.14 23:35:00 - [24] - Quote Did anybody say this? Pics or didn't happen?
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2901	Posted - 2014.07.14 23:41:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling, Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding. Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Ugh more nerfs...... on a gun that isnt even unbalanced. True, this wouldn't even effect how the gun behaves at all in any normal case. It would merely help prevent modded controller use. I can fire the ScR REALLY fast. But even I can't consistently fire it at 525 RPM. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2773	Posted - 2014.07.14 23:50:00 - [26] - Quote Not saying he wasn't using one but there are people who have that fast of a trigger finger.. I do until I try to strafe at the same time. It's because of all the cod I've played. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 683	Posted - 2014.07.15 00:07:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: the world record for mouse clicks a second Not a thing.
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 461	Posted - 2014.07.15 00:54:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling, Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding. Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Ugh more nerfs...... on a gun that isnt even unbalanced. I... can't for the life of me see how this is a nerf. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 873	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:02:00 - [29] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Kdr matchmaking fixes this. No...No it doesn't.... People can use modded controllers regardless of their KDR. Tank a few matches intentionally on an alt, to have a spree against low KDR targets? Do you even begin to see how stupid your suggestion is? At least, as it is now, you can mitigate this with people on both sides potentially having high output players, but with all the low KDR players bundled in one corner, that makes an excellent farming ground for pointless entertainment. 'Wait" you ask "Why would anyone want to ever do that?" For the exact same reasons they'd want to use the modded controller in the first place... http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2317	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:08:00 - [30] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Kdr matchmaking fixes this. No...No it doesn't.... People can use modded controllers regardless of their KDR. Tank a few matches intentionally on an alt, to have a spree against low KDR targets? Do you even begin to see how stupid your suggestion is? At least, as it is now, you can mitigate this with people on both sides potentially having high output players, but with all the low KDR players bundled in one corner, that makes an excellent farming ground for pointless entertainment. 'Wait" you ask "Why would anyone want to ever do that?" For the exact same reasons they'd want to use the modded controller in the first place... You know, you have a point... you should go find it. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2219	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:18:00 - [31] - Quote CCP was warned and has known about modded controllers Since July 2013. They have have had video proof of it working on nearly every gun in their hands since July 2013. A Full Year. They have listed it on their bugs report as something to fix.. Logibro has acknowledged it as a problem. With that said. They have done nothing truly about it... No solution... No talked about solution.. No nothing. Just here is a controller that eliminates every bit of recoil that we have designed in the game. Then you get to pair no recoil guns with a Aim assist that actively tracks and registers bullets that wouldn't otherwise hit? And it literally is as bad as someone that logs onto Counter-strike and faces someone with Aim-Bot and No Recoil with Wallhacks. That is how DUST's deaths feel. That feeling that, that player just owned me and I gotta step up? is gone. You feel like you die to DUST'S mechanics more then you did from that players skill and ability. They have cut the balls off this game completely to try and cater to a few CoD casuals and in the process ruined what made this game magic.
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 122	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:42:00 - [32] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Zindorak wrote: 843-Vika wrote: Zindorak wrote: Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube ohohohohhohohohohohohohohohohohordgjwopgfweaogfawf oh yea! thanks for the info. BTW is it considered cheating and will i get ban for using it? No you wont get banned but you will help getting another weapon nerfed into the ground like they did with the TAC AR. My victim would be the Burst AR
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1610	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:50:00 - [33] - Quote Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 122	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:52:00 - [34] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11843	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:53:00 - [35] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. I got me some hate mail the other day for Charge Shotting this particular guy for OHKO's when he was in armour, or for following up with a volley of shots. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1610	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:43:00 - [36] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3887	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:48:00 - [37] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Zindorak wrote: Atiim wrote: You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube Ditto although I still have mine. Just using it briefly, I can spot the scum so I'm glad I got it. My gaming mouse is totally legit though lol. Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!. This is unacceptable!.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2221	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:06:00 - [38] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. Works perfect for modded controllers with sense? lol. Put aim on target... Let your crosshair or LDS turn "Red" Hold down the fire button... Max ROF no recoil. rinse repeat. Also? It negates the heat build up mechanics which allows you to get more shots off before you overheat.. Charge shots with a scrambler just require you to set your turbo macro.. or toggle a switch. Now imagine a Kaalakoita RR.. and no the charge up mechanic is easy to set around. Nothing is complicated with understanding how turbos work... They had them on the Original Nintendo console that developers THEN had to start developing around so their games where still challenging and not easy to beat. No recoil is No recoil.. Pair it with how you can see people through walls, have an aim assist.... and common? this is a hackers video from a PC FPS game. lol.
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 123	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:10:00 - [39] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. What i do is unleash a charged shot followed by a flurry of spammed shots trying to keep on target. BTW what is the optimal range for the ScR?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11852	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:44:00 - [40] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. What i do is unleash a charged shot followed by a flurry of spammed shots trying to keep on target. BTW what is the optimal range for the ScR? Technically the optimal is any distance within 45m..... how I suggest your consider engaging primarily from between 40-65 if you can anything outside or at the extreme edges needs a charged shot...... "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1610	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:59:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. What i do is unleash a charged shot followed by a flurry of spammed shots trying to keep on target. BTW what is the optimal range for the ScR? Technically the optimal is any distance within 45m..... how I suggest your consider engaging primarily from between 40-65 if you can anything outside or at the extreme edges needs a charged shot...... ^This. I tend to try to keep enemies within the 40-45m range. Lead with a charge only on medium and light frames. Heavies and commandos are best served with placed shots rather than the charge shot. You will often reach the heat threshold too soon, allowing the high HP of those types to survive your charge shot + volley combo. Be precise in the placement of your shots and put as many of them on their head as possible. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Son Down SamsClub 179	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:24:00 - [42] - Quote Bethhy wrote: CCP was warned and has known about modded controllers Since July 2013. They have have had video proof of it working on nearly every gun in their hands since July 2013. A Full Year. They have listed it on their bugs report as something to fix.. Logibro has acknowledged it as a problem. With that said. They have done nothing truly about it... No solution... No talked about solution.. No nothing. Just here is a controller that eliminates every bit of recoil that we have designed in the game. Then you get to pair no recoil guns with a Aim assist that actively tracks and registers bullets that wouldn't otherwise hit? And it literally is as bad as someone that logs onto Counter-strike and faces someone with Aim-Bot and No Recoil with Wallhacks. That is how DUST's deaths feel. That feeling that, that player just owned me and I gotta step up? is gone. You feel like you die to DUST'S mechanics more then you did from that players skill and ability. They have cut the balls off this game completely to try and cater to a few CoD casuals and in the process ruined what made this game magic. This. OMG this.
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 139	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:38:00 - [43] - Quote Modded controllers are for girls...
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven 1610	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:43:00 - [44] - Quote So is aim assist tbh. Just sayin... PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Hubert De LaBatte Prima Gallicus 23	Posted - 2014.07.15 11:51:00 - [45] - Quote Victor889 wrote: This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender..) Lol. All this discussion is very interesting but... I always deplore the fact that no one in Prima Gallicus has an SSD HDD, and we spawn slowly in PC etc... So modded controllers, lol. We are all with sony controllers, only one with mouse and keybord (hmg) and one with mouse and game pad because of a problem with his hand. So again lol. All the good players are right, experience and a good technic with your classic weapon make the difference.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1503	Posted - 2014.07.15 15:34:00 - [46] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling, Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding. Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Yes it would. I have a backup controller for when friends come round to play FIFA etc, which I bought just because it was the cheapest brand new controller I've ever seen (-ú5). Turns out it has a turbo function and this thread inspired me to try it out. The RoF is not detectably higher for TAR, BuAR or CR compared to using a normal controller, but it totally transforms the ScR. This is a terrible controller, it's so stiff that I couldn't hit targets beyond 20m at all with it, but in CQC I was still cutting down squads of protos just by spraying my fully auto CRW-04 in their general direction. ScR+turbo is so incredibly broken and such an overpowered exploit CCP really have to do something about it. If they can't code specifically to deal with turbos/macros they should just limit RoF to human levels, i.e. around 500RPM. Why have it higher when that only benefits exploiters?
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 126	Posted - 2014.07.15 15:57:00 - [47] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling, Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding. Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Yes it would. I have a backup controller for when friends come round to play FIFA etc, which I bought just because it was the cheapest brand new controller I've ever seen (-ú5). Turns out it has a turbo function and this thread inspired me to try it out. The RoF is not detectably higher for TAR, BuAR or CR compared to using a normal controller, but it totally transforms the ScR. This is a terrible controller, it's so stiff that I couldn't hit targets beyond 20m at all with it, but in CQC I was still cutting down squads of protos just by spraying my fully auto CRW-04 in their general direction. ScR+turbo is so incredibly broken and such an overpowered exploit CCP really have to do something about it. If they can't code specifically to deal with turbos/macros they should just limit RoF to human levels, i.e. around 500RPM. Why have it higher when that only benefits exploiters? I don't think it is possible to reach 705 RPM on the Semi auto humanliy but if you re a super sayain.........
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1523	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:27:00 - [48] - Quote Zindorak wrote: I don't think it is possible to reach 705 RPM on the Semi auto humanliy but if you re a super sayain......... For a second or so it's totally possible. Just about anything will be dead after that so you rarely need more than that one second burst. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3065	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:43:00 - [49] - Quote Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons. ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 648	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:24:00 - [50] - Quote I've used a modded controller before with scrambler rifle and it aint really all that good. close range it can destroy folk but unless your on a proto amarr assault it'll explode in second or so. everyone thinks modded controllers are the 'WIN' button but they're really not. only gun i found benefit was the boundless combat rifle and it makes iron sight shooting on AR/ACRs more accurate other than that may as well save moeny and just learn to control your firing Rolling with the punches
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 150	Posted - 2014.07.15 19:54:00 - [51] - Quote So there you have it CCP - modification required for the ScR at least - stop those turbo pad using noobs! Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2921	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:21:00 - [52] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons. ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Smoky The Bear THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo 144	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:28:00 - [53] - Quote Umm I think what they are actually doing is using the double stack glitch with two SCR's.. DOes massive damage, and sometimes you will see 2 diff colors of lasers shooting at u.. depending on the stack.. there is definately some shady **** going on with the SCR's
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11882	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:29:00 - [54] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons. ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. begins to sob uncontrollably..... "I'm sorry.... I never meant to use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.........." "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon*
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 129	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:30:00 - [55] - Quote Smoky The Bear wrote: Umm I think what they are actually doing is using the double stack glitch with two SCR's.. DOes massive damage, and sometimes you will see 2 diff colors of lasers shooting at u.. depending on the stack.. there is definately some shady **** going on with the SCR's How do you do this glitch?
Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2921	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:34:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons. ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. *begins to sob uncontrollably..... "I'm sorry.... I never meant to use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.........." Don't apologize to me! Apologize to God! If you are earnest and sincere he may forgive you... My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11882	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:36:00 - [57] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons. ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. begins to sob uncontrollably..... "I'm sorry.... I never meant to use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.........." Don't apologize to me! Apologize to God! If you are earnest and sincere he may forgive you... I embody His will, if I use the AScR every other Amarrian should too! "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon*
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3067	Posted - 2014.07.15 22:14:00 - [58] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons. ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. I am mainly a Mass Driver user, last time I checked they weren't fully automatic. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 694	Posted - 2014.07.15 22:43:00 - [59] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. Works perfect for modded controllers with sense? lol. Put aim on target... Let your crosshair or LDS turn "Red" Hold down the fire button... Max ROF no recoil. rinse repeat. Also? It negates the heat build up mechanics which allows you to get more shots off before you overheat.. Charge shots with a scrambler just require you to set your turbo macro.. or toggle a switch. Now imagine a Kaalakoita RR.. and no the charge up mechanic is easy to set around. Nothing is complicated with understanding how turbos work... They had them on the Original Nintendo console that developers THEN had to start developing around so their games where still challenging and not easy to beat. No recoil is No recoil.. Pair it with how you can see people through walls, have an aim assist.... and common? this is a hackers video from a PC FPS game. lol. Please oh wise one explain how a turbo controller can get around the charge up time of the rail rifle, oh and explain how that would also work for the bolt pistol, forge gun, large railgun and railgun installation. I'm waiting with baited breath.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1511	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:01:00 - [60] - Quote I made a thread about this in 'Features and Ideas' here. Please come over and have a say.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1159	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:09:00 - [61] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Yeah but no other FPS will ever have a weapon half so satisfying as the Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle..... Oh wait...... DMR and Fusion Rifle.... ASMD Core rifle, both modes+combo... <3 <3 <3 People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4041	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:30:00 - [62] - Quote I think it goes on a LOT more than people admit. I was talking with a dude the other day and he said there are dudes that run macros that perform the crazy 2 ft back and forth straffing. I guess there is an adapter that makes the PS3 think the KB/M is a DS3??? I've stood next to a person and watched him switch his turbo on and off at a supply depot while firing different weapons. He no longer plays Dust, but I'm not going to drop names. There is also talk of somehow running the PS3 through a flash drive instead of the HD? Supposedly this allows you to spawn in much faster than a SSD. That one seems weird. I don't like to QQ about that kind of stuff though. If people are that desperate to be good at a video game then I guess congrats to them. But there are simple things like making the ROF somewhere in the realm of human limitations to prevent it where you can. Level 4 Forum Warrior Currently on a quest to get all suits to ADV (8 remaining) PSN: wbrom42
Master Jaraiya Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1495	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:35:00 - [63] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Bethhy wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Zindorak wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often. If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. Works perfect for modded controllers with sense? lol. Put aim on target... Let your crosshair or LDS turn "Red" Hold down the fire button... Max ROF no recoil. rinse repeat. Also? It negates the heat build up mechanics which allows you to get more shots off before you overheat.. Charge shots with a scrambler just require you to set your turbo macro.. or toggle a switch. Now imagine a Kaalakoita RR.. and no the charge up mechanic is easy to set around. Nothing is complicated with understanding how turbos work... They had them on the Original Nintendo console that developers THEN had to start developing around so their games where still challenging and not easy to beat. No recoil is No recoil.. Pair it with how you can see people through walls, have an aim assist.... and common? this is a hackers video from a PC FPS game. lol. Please oh wise one explain how a turbo controller can get around the charge up time of the rail rifle, oh and explain how that would also work for the bolt pistol, forge gun, large railgun and railgun installation. I'm waiting with baited breath. A macro controller would only work with the Charge shot of the ScrR because the ScrR also has a semi auto fire mode, the other weapons you mentioned do not. You would simply set the Macro to hold the first button press for how long the ScrR takes to charge around 2 sec I think, then to switch to turbo. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Master Jaraiya Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1495	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:04:00 - [64] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think it goes on a LOT more than people admit. I was talking with a dude the other day and he said there are dudes that run macros that perform the crazy 2 ft back and forth straffing. I guess there is an adapter that makes the PS3 think the KB/M is a DS3??? I've stood next to a person and watched him switch his turbo on and off at a supply depot while firing different weapons. He no longer plays Dust, but I'm not going to drop names. There is also talk of somehow running the PS3 through a flash drive instead of the HD? Supposedly this allows you to spawn in much faster than a SSD. That one seems weird. I don't like to QQ about that kind of stuff though. If people are that desperate to be good at a video game then I guess congrats to them. But there are simple things like making the ROF somewhere in the realm of human limitations to prevent it where you can. Most likely it does. Yes there are indeed. I've seen them for sale at different retailers. IDK How, but a few days ago I was playing and on my initial spawn of a Domination, I spawned on the ground, moved about 2m to the right and was killed by a remote explosive. I agree 100% "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 739	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:12:00 - [65] - Quote http://youtu.be/h4fpctrVSTk first overheat with turbo 2nd without.
Spaceman-Rob Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 456	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:24:00 - [66] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: http://youtu.be/h4fpctrVSTk first overheat with turbo 2nd without. Holy mother of God, that was some rapid fire using turbo, wouldn't stand a chance against that. Wow!
aaaasdff ertgfdd 147	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:45:00 - [67] - Quote Victor889 wrote: This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender..) Modded controllers are legit input methods, it sucks, but they are legal, you can purchase one as well. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1511	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:54:00 - [68] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: http://youtu.be/h4fpctrVSTk first overheat with turbo 2nd without. Thanks, I added this to the thread in the 'features and ideas' section. Hopefully we can get this fixed in Charlie.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 741	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:03:00 - [69] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: boba's fetta wrote: http://youtu.be/h4fpctrVSTk first overheat with turbo 2nd without. Holy mother of God, that was some rapid fire using turbo, wouldn't stand a chance against that. Wow! it does appear that the scrmabler is the weapon most suited to use with a modded controller.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3076	Posted - 2014.07.17 23:48:00 - [70] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I've used a modded controller before with scrambler rifle and it aint really all that good. close range it can destroy folk but unless your on a proto amarr assault it'll explode in second or so. everyone thinks modded controllers are the 'WIN' button but they're really not. only gun i found benefit was the boundless combat rifle and it makes iron sight shooting on AR/ACRs more accurate other than that may as well save moeny and just learn to control your firing A second or 2 at 700 DPS is enough to kill most targets, the only exception being higher tanked sentinels. It doesn't matter how quickly it overheats, if your opponent is already dead. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11995	Posted - 2014.07.17 23:56:00 - [71] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I've used a modded controller before with scrambler rifle and it aint really all that good. close range it can destroy folk but unless your on a proto amarr assault it'll explode in second or so. everyone thinks modded controllers are the 'WIN' button but they're really not. only gun i found benefit was the boundless combat rifle and it makes iron sight shooting on AR/ACRs more accurate other than that may as well save moeny and just learn to control your firing A second or 2 at 700 DPS is enough to kill most targets, the only exception being higher tanked sentinels. It doesn't matter how quickly it overheats, if your opponent is already dead. Probably at the cost of your own life though. That seize up mechanism is a killer. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2246	Posted - 2014.07.18 00:00:00 - [72] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Please oh wise one explain how a turbo controller can get around the charge up time of the rail rifle, oh and explain how that would also work for the bolt pistol, forge gun, large railgun and railgun installation. I'm waiting with baited breath. A macro controller would only work with the Charge shot of the ScrR because the ScrR also has a semi auto fire mode, the other weapons you mentioned do not. You would simply set the Macro to hold the first button press for how long the ScrR takes to charge around 2 sec I think, then to switch to turbo. You can set a turbo macro to hold the charge up time on the RR then the turbo input keeps it firing with no recoil. Works this way with SCR too.. set the macro to hold input for 1-2 seconds, then lets out a burst of rapid fire turbo. You can even set it so it quits before you overheat. Like I said Macros have been around since computers.. Nothing should be complicated to understand about how to set one. 6 Year olds do 15 skill macros in World of Warcraft that have different timings each skill goes off.. Complex Bots in Videogames that level and gather stuff for you is ran off a series of macros. We can argue ignorance all we want, The fact that a simple Macro negates the entire Recoil Mechanics of DUST 514 is messed up.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11998	Posted - 2014.07.18 00:18:00 - [73] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: http://youtu.be/h4fpctrVSTk first overheat with turbo 2nd without. Interesting..... I can fire faster than your second example.... but when I do I'm not that accurate. Still I'm miles of the turbo. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
B145PH3M3R The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 20	Posted - 2014.07.18 00:38:00 - [74] - Quote I love the people saying they can get 10+ shots per second period, let alone without overheating. Unless you are using a maxed amarr assault it is impossible. Btw you should go pro. The AVERAGE MLG shots/sec is 7. Thats right 7. And contrary to what many have said, the ScR overheats faster the faster you shoot. It has a heat per shot, not so many seconds before it overheats. I have heard some say they get 12-16 shots per heat cycle on a non amarr assault. I get about 10-12, and thats pretty fast. I do agree though, modded controllers are an issue, especially for the combat rifle. No weapon in dust should have a rof above 7 shots per second. The scr has 9, the combat rifle has 12 (bursts not bullets.) This needs to be fixed.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11998	Posted - 2014.07.18 01:16:00 - [75] - Quote B145PH3M3R wrote: I love the people saying they can get 10+ shots per second period, let alone without overheating. Unless you are using a maxed amarr assault it is impossible. Btw you should go pro. The AVERAGE MLG shots/sec is 7. Thats right 7. And contrary to what many have said, the ScR overheats faster the faster you shoot. It has a heat per shot, not so many seconds before it overheats. I have heard some say they get 12-16 shots per heat cycle on a non amarr assault. I get about 10-12, and thats pretty fast. I do agree though, modded controllers are an issue, especially for the combat rifle. No weapon in dust should have a rof above 7 shots per second. The scr has 9, the combat rifle has 12 (bursts not bullets.) This needs to be fixed. Heat is not per shot. This was confirmed months ago. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
B145PH3M3R The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 20	Posted - 2014.07.18 01:19:00 - [76] - Quote True Adamance wrote: B145PH3M3R wrote: I love the people saying they can get 10+ shots per second period, let alone without overheating. Unless you are using a maxed amarr assault it is impossible. Btw you should go pro. The AVERAGE MLG shots/sec is 7. Thats right 7. And contrary to what many have said, the ScR overheats faster the faster you shoot. It has a heat per shot, not so many seconds before it overheats. I have heard some say they get 12-16 shots per heat cycle on a non amarr assault. I get about 10-12, and thats pretty fast. I do agree though, modded controllers are an issue, especially for the combat rifle. No weapon in dust should have a rof above 7 shots per second. The scr has 9, the combat rifle has 12 (bursts not bullets.) This needs to be fixed. Heat is not per shot. This was confirmed months ago. Damn, I missed the memo.. so what is it based on?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11999	Posted - 2014.07.18 01:23:00 - [77] - Quote B145PH3M3R wrote: True Adamance wrote: B145PH3M3R wrote: I love the people saying they can get 10+ shots per second period, let alone without overheating. Unless you are using a maxed amarr assault it is impossible. Btw you should go pro. The AVERAGE MLG shots/sec is 7. Thats right 7. And contrary to what many have said, the ScR overheats faster the faster you shoot. It has a heat per shot, not so many seconds before it overheats. I have heard some say they get 12-16 shots per heat cycle on a non amarr assault. I get about 10-12, and thats pretty fast. I do agree though, modded controllers are an issue, especially for the combat rifle. No weapon in dust should have a rof above 7 shots per second. The scr has 9, the combat rifle has 12 (bursts not bullets.) This needs to be fixed. Heat is not per shot. This was confirmed months ago. Damn, I missed the memo.. so what is it based on? Its kind of like the Laser Rifle Basically the gist is the faster you press the bumper the more shots you get before over heat. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
B145PH3M3R The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 20	Posted - 2014.07.18 01:30:00 - [78] - Quote Thx for the info TA. I had no clue, I always wondered how modded controllers got by overheating so fast.
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1543	Posted - 2014.07.18 01:38:00 - [79] - Quote B145PH3M3R wrote: True Adamance wrote: B145PH3M3R wrote: I love the people saying they can get 10+ shots per second period, let alone without overheating. Unless you are using a maxed amarr assault it is impossible. Btw you should go pro. The AVERAGE MLG shots/sec is 7. Thats right 7. And contrary to what many have said, the ScR overheats faster the faster you shoot. It has a heat per shot, not so many seconds before it overheats. I have heard some say they get 12-16 shots per heat cycle on a non amarr assault. I get about 10-12, and thats pretty fast. I do agree though, modded controllers are an issue, especially for the combat rifle. No weapon in dust should have a rof above 7 shots per second. The scr has 9, the combat rifle has 12 (bursts not bullets.) This needs to be fixed. Heat is not per shot. This was confirmed months ago. Damn, I missed the memo.. so what is it based on? The question is whether the heat per shot always depends on the charge status of the respective shot or if anything below a certain charge threshold is considered an "uncharged shot" or something. Autofire controllers send a clocked signal of the shortest duration the console will reliably recognize. For all we know this might as well be 1ms or less. I can almost guarantee that a human finger will squeeze the fire button for significantly longer than that. Without some kind of threshold this would mean that human caused shots generally build up more heat than machine triggered ones. Confirming the lack of such a threshold mechanic would completely explain this odd behavior and offer a solution to the heat buildup shenanigans at the same time. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2101	Posted - 2014.07.18 02:11:00 - [80] - Quote I've always wondered: WHY IS HEAT BUILD UP PER SECOND AND NOT PER SHOT "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1544	Posted - 2014.07.18 02:57:00 - [81] - Quote Harpyja wrote: I've always wondered: WHY IS HEAT BUILD UP PER SECOND AND NOT PER SHOT Well, is it? The UI displays it as an instant heat increase with every shot varying with the amount of charging. Now while I believe True Adamance is right in that the heat build up is not just "per shot" because I faintly remember myself seeing a dev post confirming the SCR heat algo to be a bastardized version of the laser rifle code, it certainly isn't identical to the laser rifle in practice. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5329	Posted - 2014.07.18 02:58:00 - [82] - Quote Victor889 wrote: This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender..) Just one question How can you be Full time Heavy if you are Part time logi. Stealth Storm
Dauth Jenkins Merc-0107 552	Posted - 2014.07.18 09:56:00 - [83] - Quote Aardicus wrote: so is this the new 'thing', run around and spam ScR's? I've seen this fit alot more recently, calscout + ScR. Seems quite effective. so one should just find target and then hit fire as fast as possible? while hip firing I presume? think I'll go buy some militia ScRs and try this out sometime... Yea it works pretty well until they run into a bigger suit running a scrambler who returns the favor... and then they switch to the boundless CR -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
The Eristic Dust 90210 572	Posted - 2014.07.18 10:32:00 - [84] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Yea it works pretty well until they run into a bigger suit running a scrambler who returns the favor... and then they switch to the boundless CR I can confirm this anecdotally, at least. A squad (I would assume, since they were all running seemingly identical fits) of brick-y Cal scouts with CRWs were annoying the hell out me in an Ambush recently. I'd started out running PlC + Breach ScP on a fully speed-tanked Scout G-1 because fun, but finally spawned my fully slowness-tanked Assault ak.0 with Viziam ScR out of, well, pretty much just spite and instagibbed them a few times. 1200 HP is a real ***** when you have no heat reduction bonus, I guess. Suddenly, they're all shotguns and CRs...and a militia heavy frame with RR. They shotgunned me eventually, but it was still pretty chuckle-worthy. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1661	Posted - 2014.07.18 11:09:00 - [85] - Quote Lol, It is almost time again to scratch that Dust Itch with my Scrambler rifle after reading some posts on here :p Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
B145PH3M3R The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 20	Posted - 2014.07.18 11:22:00 - [86] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Lol, It is almost time again to scratch that Dust Itch with my Scrambler rifle after reading some posts on here :p Its no better than it ever was. People just started realizing its potential I guess. Also; CK.0...
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3080	Posted - 2014.07.18 11:33:00 - [87] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I've used a modded controller before with scrambler rifle and it aint really all that good. close range it can destroy folk but unless your on a proto amarr assault it'll explode in second or so. everyone thinks modded controllers are the 'WIN' button but they're really not. only gun i found benefit was the boundless combat rifle and it makes iron sight shooting on AR/ACRs more accurate other than that may as well save moeny and just learn to control your firing A second or 2 at 700 DPS is enough to kill most targets, the only exception being higher tanked sentinels. It doesn't matter how quickly it overheats, if your opponent is already dead. Probably at the cost of your own life though. That seize up mechanism is a killer. Well let's look shall we? The imperial vizam Scrambler Rifle can reach 846 DPS when modded this kills my 700 EHP Proto Suit in about 0.93 seconds, I usually run a SixKin ACR which can manage 420 DPS, assuming my enemy also has 700 EHP I must deal at least 650dmg to him before I die, in order for him to die from overheat. You may notice that is a physical impossibility, even if we say he has 60% accuracy so about 1.20 seconds to kill me, I must still achieve over 100% accuracy to kill him from the overheat. So overheat is onlt a factor in your death with a modded controller if you are a poor shot. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 752	Posted - 2014.07.18 13:54:00 - [88] - Quote that is ofc it you fire long enough for it to seize. players who know how to control thier heat build up are a nightmare to fight. i dont know where people got the idea that you have to fire till it over heats because you simply do not.
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 153	Posted - 2014.07.18 18:07:00 - [89] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: http://youtu.be/h4fpctrVSTk first overheat with turbo 2nd without. Thank you for evidence. So what I'm saying is the guy was just firing full auto, clearly using a modded controller up to the point of almost overheat, letting it cool and then carrying on. The fact that it was so brazen is what annoyed me the most, there was no attempt to hide it, and as per the title, he went 50/0 in that particular match. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 153	Posted - 2014.07.18 18:12:00 - [90] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Victor889 wrote: This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender..) Just one question How can you be Full time Heavy if you are Part time logi. Hehe I used to always play heavy, and then changed to logi when needed, like spawn pads/ammo. I mainly use scout now mind so I should probs change that.. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.

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