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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:18:00 -
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CCP was warned and has known about modded controllers Since July 2013.
They have have had video proof of it working on nearly every gun in their hands since July 2013.
A Full Year.
They have listed it on their bugs report as something to fix.. Logibro has acknowledged it as a problem.
With that said.
They have done nothing truly about it... No solution... No talked about solution.. No nothing.
Just here is a controller that eliminates every bit of recoil that we have designed in the game. Then you get to pair no recoil guns with a Aim assist that actively tracks and registers bullets that wouldn't otherwise hit?
And it literally is as bad as someone that logs onto Counter-strike and faces someone with Aim-Bot and No Recoil with Wallhacks.
That is how DUST's deaths feel. That feeling that, that player just owned me and I gotta step up? is gone. You feel like you die to DUST'S mechanics more then you did from that players skill and ability.
They have cut the balls off this game completely to try and cater to a few CoD casuals and in the process ruined what made this game magic. |
Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
122
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:42:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Zindorak wrote:843-Vika wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube ohohohohhohohohohohohohohohohohordgjwopgfweaogfawf oh yea! thanks for the info. BTW is it considered cheating and will i get ban for using it? No you wont get banned but you will help getting another weapon nerfed into the ground like they did with the TAC AR. My victim would be the Burst AR |
Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1610
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:50:00 -
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Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
122
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:52:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11843
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:53:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong.
I got me some hate mail the other day for Charge Shotting this particular guy for OHKO's when he was in armour, or for following up with a volley of shots.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1610
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Posted - 2014.07.15 02:43:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it
Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no".
Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3887
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Posted - 2014.07.15 02:48:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Zindorak wrote:Atiim wrote:You don't really need a Modded Controller to fire extremely fast with a Scrambler Rifle. Though if I may ask, was it a CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle? This. Btw where can i get a modded controller i want to troll with my Boundless CR Gamestop sells am adjustable rapid fire controller that i bought and tried during the TAR days but returned it because i felt dirty using it like that. It made the TAR fire faster then a balic gar did back then. there are also videos on how to mod your controller on you tube
Ditto although I still have mine.
Just using it briefly, I can spot the scum so I'm glad I got it.
My gaming mouse is totally legit though lol.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
2221
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:06:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there.
Works perfect for modded controllers with sense? lol.
Put aim on target... Let your crosshair or LDS turn "Red" Hold down the fire button... Max ROF no recoil. rinse repeat.
Also? It negates the heat build up mechanics which allows you to get more shots off before you overheat..
Charge shots with a scrambler just require you to set your turbo macro.. or toggle a switch.
Now imagine a Kaalakoita RR.. and no the charge up mechanic is easy to set around.
Nothing is complicated with understanding how turbos work... They had them on the Original Nintendo console that developers THEN had to start developing around so their games where still challenging and not easy to beat.
No recoil is No recoil.. Pair it with how you can see people through walls, have an aim assist.... and common? this is a hackers video from a PC FPS game. lol.
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
123
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:10:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. What i do is unleash a charged shot followed by a flurry of spammed shots trying to keep on target. BTW what is the optimal range for the ScR? |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11852
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:44:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. What i do is unleash a charged shot followed by a flurry of spammed shots trying to keep on target. BTW what is the optimal range for the ScR? Technically the optimal is any distance within 45m..... how I suggest your consider engaging primarily from between 40-65 if you can anything outside or at the extreme edges needs a charged shot......
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1610
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. What i do is unleash a charged shot followed by a flurry of spammed shots trying to keep on target. BTW what is the optimal range for the ScR? Technically the optimal is any distance within 45m..... how I suggest your consider engaging primarily from between 40-65 if you can anything outside or at the extreme edges needs a charged shot......
^This. I tend to try to keep enemies within the 40-45m range. Lead with a charge only on medium and light frames. Heavies and commandos are best served with placed shots rather than the charge shot. You will often reach the heat threshold too soon, allowing the high HP of those types to survive your charge shot + volley combo. Be precise in the placement of your shots and put as many of them on their head as possible.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Son Down
SamsClub
179
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:24:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP was warned and has known about modded controllers Since July 2013.
They have have had video proof of it working on nearly every gun in their hands since July 2013.
A Full Year.
They have listed it on their bugs report as something to fix.. Logibro has acknowledged it as a problem.
With that said.
They have done nothing truly about it... No solution... No talked about solution.. No nothing.
Just here is a controller that eliminates every bit of recoil that we have designed in the game. Then you get to pair no recoil guns with a Aim assist that actively tracks and registers bullets that wouldn't otherwise hit?
And it literally is as bad as someone that logs onto Counter-strike and faces someone with Aim-Bot and No Recoil with Wallhacks.
That is how DUST's deaths feel. That feeling that, that player just owned me and I gotta step up? is gone. You feel like you die to DUST'S mechanics more then you did from that players skill and ability.
They have cut the balls off this game completely to try and cater to a few CoD casuals and in the process ruined what made this game magic.
This. OMG this.
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni...
139
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:38:00 -
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Modded controllers are for girls... |
Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
1610
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:43:00 -
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So is aim assist tbh.
Just sayin...
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Hubert De LaBatte
Prima Gallicus
23
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Posted - 2014.07.15 11:51:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:This kind of blatant use of cheating mechanics is disgusting. I just saw a guy (on my team) using a proto Cal Scout and the advanced ScR, clearly and blatantly using a modded controller, yes I know you can't stop or moderate it but it's just a real shame people feel the need to abuse game mechanics like that. you know who you are. (and in case you don't it was some guy, something about throwing a cat - Prima Galactus I think... bender.. )
Lol.
All this discussion is very interesting but... I always deplore the fact that no one in Prima Gallicus has an SSD HDD, and we spawn slowly in PC etc... So modded controllers, lol.
We are all with sony controllers, only one with mouse and keybord (hmg) and one with mouse and game pad because of a problem with his hand.
So again lol.
All the good players are right, experience and a good technic with your classic weapon make the difference.
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
1503
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:34:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling,
Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding.
Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Yes it would. I have a backup controller for when friends come round to play FIFA etc, which I bought just because it was the cheapest brand new controller I've ever seen (-ú5). Turns out it has a turbo function and this thread inspired me to try it out.
The RoF is not detectably higher for TAR, BuAR or CR compared to using a normal controller, but it totally transforms the ScR. This is a terrible controller, it's so stiff that I couldn't hit targets beyond 20m at all with it, but in CQC I was still cutting down squads of protos just by spraying my fully auto CRW-04 in their general direction.
ScR+turbo is so incredibly broken and such an overpowered exploit CCP really have to do something about it. If they can't code specifically to deal with turbos/macros they should just limit RoF to human levels, i.e. around 500RPM. Why have it higher when that only benefits exploiters? |
Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
126
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:57:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:As a zealous ScR proponent with a burning hatred of oversampling,
Reduce the RoF on the ScR to much more reasonable levels. Still high enough that all but the very fastest of trigger fingers won't oversample, but slow enough that using modded controllers isn't so rewarding.
Personally, I think that a RoF of 525 would be perfect. Yes it would. I have a backup controller for when friends come round to play FIFA etc, which I bought just because it was the cheapest brand new controller I've ever seen (-ú5). Turns out it has a turbo function and this thread inspired me to try it out. The RoF is not detectably higher for TAR, BuAR or CR compared to using a normal controller, but it totally transforms the ScR. This is a terrible controller, it's so stiff that I couldn't hit targets beyond 20m at all with it, but in CQC I was still cutting down squads of protos just by spraying my fully auto CRW-04 in their general direction. ScR+turbo is so incredibly broken and such an overpowered exploit CCP really have to do something about it. If they can't code specifically to deal with turbos/macros they should just limit RoF to human levels, i.e. around 500RPM. Why have it higher when that only benefits exploiters?
I don't think it is possible to reach 705 RPM on the Semi auto humanliy but if you re a super sayain.........
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1523
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:27:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I don't think it is possible to reach 705 RPM on the Semi auto humanliy but if you re a super sayain.........
For a second or so it's totally possible. Just about anything will be dead after that so you rarely need more than that one second burst.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3065
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Posted - 2014.07.15 16:43:00 -
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Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win
It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons.
ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil
It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
648
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:24:00 -
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I've used a modded controller before with scrambler rifle and it aint really all that good. close range it can destroy folk but unless your on a proto amarr assault it'll explode in second or so. everyone thinks modded controllers are the 'WIN' button but they're really not. only gun i found benefit was the boundless combat rifle and it makes iron sight shooting on AR/ACRs more accurate other than that may as well save moeny and just learn to control your firing
Rolling with the punches
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Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
150
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:54:00 -
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So there you have it CCP - modification required for the ScR at least - stop those turbo pad using noobs!
Part time Logi,
Full time heavy.
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Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2921
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:21:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win
It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons.
ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil
It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one.
Full auto user is bad and should feel bad.
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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Smoky The Bear
THE SMOKIN GUNZ Dark Taboo
144
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:28:00 -
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Umm I think what they are actually doing is using the double stack glitch with two SCR's.. DOes massive damage, and sometimes you will see 2 diff colors of lasers shooting at u.. depending on the stack.. there is definately some shady **** going on with the SCR's |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11882
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:29:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win
It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons.
ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil
It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad.
*begins to sob uncontrollably.....
"I'm sorry.... I never meant to use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.........."
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
129
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:30:00 -
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Smoky The Bear wrote:Umm I think what they are actually doing is using the double stack glitch with two SCR's.. DOes massive damage, and sometimes you will see 2 diff colors of lasers shooting at u.. depending on the stack.. there is definately some shady **** going on with the SCR's How do you do this glitch? |
Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2921
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win
It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons.
ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil
It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. *begins to sob uncontrollably..... "I'm sorry.... I never meant to use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.........." Don't apologize to me! Apologize to God! If you are earnest and sincere he may forgive you...
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11882
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:36:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win
It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons.
ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil
It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad. *begins to sob uncontrollably..... "I'm sorry.... I never meant to use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.........." Don't apologize to me! Apologize to God! If you are earnest and sincere he may forgive you...
I embody His will, if I use the AScR every other Amarrian should too!
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3067
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:14:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Modded Controller + ScR =Win Modded Controller + CR = Win Modded Controller + AR = Win Modded Controller + TAR = Win Modded Controller + BAR = Win Modded Controller in general = Win
It all stems from the fact that very few of the single shot, burst rifles have normally achievable fire rate caps. This means someone with an extraordinary trigger finger, or a modded controller, can break the weapons.
ScR fires fully automatic at 70 dmg per shot CR fires fully automatic with 500 DPS AR fires fully automatic with absolute no recoil
It allows weapons to be broken and unbalanced, the solution, is to have a hard cap on fire rate, one that is easily achievable by every one. Full auto user is bad and should feel bad.
I am mainly a Mass Driver user, last time I checked they weren't fully automatic.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
694
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:43:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Zindorak wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Modded controllers serve no purpose and have no benefit other than helping the user overheat faster...and more often.
If you are spamming R1 during your engagements with an ScR, you are doing it wrong. Then im doing it wrong lol. Can you teach me how to doug i mean use it Engage at your optimal. Place your shots instead of just spamming the trigger. Learn to manage your heat. Know when and when not to engage. Throwing yourself in a enemy infested resupply is an example of a "no no". Pick off one enemy at a time, as the ScR is the best 1v1 weapon out there. Works perfect for modded controllers with sense? lol. Put aim on target... Let your crosshair or LDS turn "Red" Hold down the fire button... Max ROF no recoil. rinse repeat. Also? It negates the heat build up mechanics which allows you to get more shots off before you overheat.. Charge shots with a scrambler just require you to set your turbo macro.. or toggle a switch. Now imagine a Kaalakoita RR.. and no the charge up mechanic is easy to set around. Nothing is complicated with understanding how turbos work... They had them on the Original Nintendo console that developers THEN had to start developing around so their games where still challenging and not easy to beat. No recoil is No recoil.. Pair it with how you can see people through walls, have an aim assist.... and common? this is a hackers video from a PC FPS game. lol.
Please oh wise one explain how a turbo controller can get around the charge up time of the rail rifle, oh and explain how that would also work for the bolt pistol, forge gun, large railgun and railgun installation.
I'm waiting with baited breath. |
Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
1511
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Posted - 2014.07.16 14:01:00 -
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I made a thread about this in 'Features and Ideas' here. Please come over and have a say. |
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