DUST Search - Petition for a respec

Luna McDuffing wrote:

I agree with having at least a dropsuit respect due to the upcoming changes of hotfix alpha. Let me explain why by giving an example.

Lets say you buy a sport car. You bought this sport car because it is fast. It runs the 1/4 mile in 15 seconds flat. (Maybe that is not super fast by todays standard but it is just an example). The competition sees the popularity of this car and decides to make one better. So the next year they come up with a car that does the 1/4 mile in 14 seconds. Well, that sucks a bit for the 15second guy but, that is the way life is. Every year new things come along that are better faster, smaller, lighters whatever. This however is not what CCP does. If CPP ran a car manufacturing company thenthey would come up with the 14 second car but, they would make the 15 second car all of a sudden turn into a minivan.

With hot fix charlie the caldari scout will lose its profile enhancer skill and the ammar logi will lose its secondary weapon. That is not fair (in my opinion). That the ammar gains the profile enhancer capability then that is ok because in theory they probably where working on it but why would the caldari lose that ability all of a sudden?

I say the rule of thumb for respect should be as follows.

#1 small tweaks to something does NOT require respect. For example a weapon gains or loses a bit of damage. This does not requires respect because the weapon still does the job it is intended. For example if you buy a sniper rifle that does say 500 damage and now it only does 480. Yeah that sucks but it is still a sniper rifle.

#2 changes that completely change the way something works (lose an ability) do require respect. Again suppose you buy a sniper rifle and they all of a sudden change it to work like a shot gun. NO NO NO. You bough a sniper rifle so it should be a sniper rifle. It can't be one day sniper rifle and the next day a shotgun.

In hot fix charlie the HMG overheating a bit faster is not a super deal breaker because it is a small tweak. So no respect. However, the ammar losing the sidearm is a deal breaker because that whole idea of the ammar logi is to that side arm. They even mentioned giving the side arm to the caldari logi. That doesn't seem fair to me.

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Crashy Mc Boom-bewm The United Socialist Liberation Front 29	Posted - 2014.07.14 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote Lets face it, this game is going to die and we might as well have as much fun as possible with it while we can. Even though this probably won't work, its worth a try. Sign your name if you think we should spend dust's last moments with a full respec for maximum enjoyment. If at first it doesn't work, beat it with a brick.
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1502	Posted - 2014.07.14 03:02:00 - [2] - Quote We had a pointless petition thread (a two month old necro, actually) and at least two unique threads that got barely any resonance in the last 48 hours alone. Do I have to formally request the recreation of a respec ~~dumpster~~ sticky thread or can you guys give it a rest already? You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2948	Posted - 2014.07.14 03:14:00 - [3] - Quote Request that sticky!
Yeeeuuuupppp uptown456 Dark Taboo 460	Posted - 2014.07.14 03:24:00 - [4] - Quote How many of these are you bastards going to make? Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2948	Posted - 2014.07.14 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: How many of these are you bastards going to make? Enough to fill the first page of general discussion.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2326	Posted - 2014.07.14 03:44:00 - [6] - Quote Whats wrong with just putting new SP you earn into new things like the rest of us do? Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 209	Posted - 2014.07.14 04:36:00 - [7] - Quote (food for trolling)
Foley Jones Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 574	Posted - 2014.07.14 04:39:00 - [8] - Quote ugh...why is everyone saying the game is gonna die? Kinda annoying, and yes im aware of the **** like EVE legion being announced and blah blah MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
Thurak1 Psygod9 816	Posted - 2014.07.14 04:50:00 - [9] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: ugh...why is everyone saying the game is gonna die? Kinda annoying, and yes im aware of the **** like EVE legion being announced and blah blah To many of us that have been following whats going on this games death is certain the only question is when. The game has already been put into a hotfix / debug cycle. It was in active deployment for a whole year then suddenly one day it is actually said publically that they stopped development of new content and there will not be any client side updates for the foreseeable future. Which means a lot of things that they had been supposedly working on will never come into the game. It also means that everything they pulled out of the game ( logi lav's come to mind first ) will likely never be re-introduced into the game. So for those of us that have been following these events when we see people ask why do we think the game is ending we look at the people asking and wonder "where have you been?"
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 36	Posted - 2014.07.14 05:01:00 - [10] - Quote Crashy Mc Boom-bewm wrote: Lets face it, this game is going to die and we might as well have as much fun as possible with it while we can. Even though this probably won't work, its worth a try. Sign your name if you think we should spend dust's last moments with a full respec for maximum enjoyment. I would love this. Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.

Minmatar Mercenary 9292 Science For Death Final Resolution. 501	Posted - 2014.07.14 05:05:00 - [11] - Quote screw respecs they should just max everyones skill trees and let us go at it. Da only good Amarr is a ded Amarr, an de ony fing betta than a ded one, is a dyin one who tells ya were 'is mates is!
Foley Jones Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 575	Posted - 2014.07.14 05:07:00 - [12] - Quote Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: screw respecs they should just max everyones skill trees and let us go at it. Well they plan on leting people port their toon over to EVE legion so..yeah i can't see this happening MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
Jett Pezzin Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 209	Posted - 2014.07.14 05:08:00 - [13] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: ugh...why is everyone saying the game is gonna die? Kinda annoying, and yes im aware of the **** like EVE legion being announced and blah blah Dust 514 servers will shut down when Legion goes into closed beta. Destiny FTW CEO of Terminal Courtesy Follow Dust 514 on Instagram! @EveDust514
Foley Jones Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 575	Posted - 2014.07.14 05:12:00 - [14] - Quote Jett Pezzin wrote: Foley Jones wrote: ugh...why is everyone saying the game is gonna die? Kinda annoying, and yes im aware of the **** like EVE legion being announced and blah blah Dust 514 servers will shut down when Legion goes into closed beta. Thats not really the game dieing tho...Just getting a new name and moving to a different system..Legion is still dust basically MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
Thurak1 Psygod9 817	Posted - 2014.07.14 05:41:00 - [15] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: screw respecs they should just max everyones skill trees and let us go at it. Well they plan on leting people port their toon over to EVE legion so..yeah i can't see this happening They have only said they will try to make it happen. The skill systems are going to be different though so dont get your hopes up.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 3383	Posted - 2014.07.14 06:47:00 - [16] - Quote Not gonna happen. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4988	Posted - 2014.07.14 10:05:00 - [17] - Quote No respec. Infinite SP!!!! RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4988	Posted - 2014.07.14 10:06:00 - [18] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Not gonna happen. Not until the game is no longer profitable of course. Which should have occurred at Fanfest. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Scar Scrilla Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 280	Posted - 2014.07.14 10:23:00 - [19] - Quote I'd rather see a bigger weekly SP cap...don't care about a respec "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" "Go and hack the letter(s)" - UN1TE
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1478	Posted - 2014.07.14 10:27:00 - [20] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: ugh...why is everyone saying the sun is gonna go down? Kinda annoying, and yes im aware of the **** like science and blah blah

Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA 27	Posted - 2014.07.14 11:15:00 - [21] - Quote I agree with having at least a dropsuit respect due to the upcoming changes of hotfix alpha. Let me explain why by giving an example. Lets say you buy a sport car. You bought this sport car because it is fast. It runs the 1/4 mile in 15 seconds flat. (Maybe that is not super fast by todays standard but it is just an example). The competition sees the popularity of this car and decides to make one better. So the next year they come up with a car that does the 1/4 mile in 14 seconds. Well, that sucks a bit for the 15second guy but, that is the way life is. Every year new things come along that are better faster, smaller, lighters whatever. This however is not what CCP does. If CPP ran a car manufacturing company thenthey would come up with the 14 second car but, they would make the 15 second car all of a sudden turn into a minivan. With hot fix charlie the caldari scout will lose its profile enhancer skill and the ammar logi will lose its secondary weapon. That is not fair (in my opinion). That the ammar gains the profile enhancer capability then that is ok because in theory they probably where working on it but why would the caldari lose that ability all of a sudden? I say the rule of thumb for respect should be as follows. #1 small tweaks to something does NOT require respect. For example a weapon gains or loses a bit of damage. This does not requires respect because the weapon still does the job it is intended. For example if you buy a sniper rifle that does say 500 damage and now it only does 480. Yeah that sucks but it is still a sniper rifle. #2 changes that completely change the way something works (lose an ability) do require respect. Again suppose you buy a sniper rifle and they all of a sudden change it to work like a shot gun. NO NO NO. You bough a sniper rifle so it should be a sniper rifle. It can't be one day sniper rifle and the next day a shotgun. In hot fix charlie the HMG overheating a bit faster is not a super deal breaker because it is a small tweak. So no respect. However, the ammar losing the sidearm is a deal breaker because that whole idea of the ammar logi is to that side arm. They even mentioned giving the side arm to the caldari logi. That doesn't seem fair to me.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2729	Posted - 2014.07.14 13:53:00 - [22] - Quote Not in favor. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Foley Jones Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 576	Posted - 2014.07.14 13:55:00 - [23] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Foley Jones wrote: ugh...why is everyone saying the sun is gonna go down? Kinda annoying, and yes im aware of the ** like science and blah blah Wait it does go down? Well ** MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
Sasseros DUST BRASIL S.A 18	Posted - 2014.07.14 14:21:00 - [24] - Quote Signed. Weapons and dropsuit. To Weapons and DROPSUITS. If I remember correctly, when they launched the CR and RR the only rifle he had was the AR, so why we have to have SP invested AR if we want to use RR or CR? Google translate post so...sorry. ADV Logistic, STD Every other role, MLT Paper Weight...Tank Driver, JLav and Suicide Gorgon.
RKKR The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 968	Posted - 2014.07.14 15:25:00 - [25] - Quote But...but...we still need this SP crap to give the illusion of roleplaying
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2014.07.14 15:41:00 - [26] - Quote In the spirit of the Borderlands 2 guy, I think CCP has stated, "NO RESPECS".
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 259	Posted - 2014.07.14 15:42:00 - [27] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: I agree with having at least a dropsuit respect due to the upcoming changes of hotfix alpha. Let me explain why by giving an example. Lets say you buy a sport car. You bought this sport car because it is fast. It runs the 1/4 mile in 15 seconds flat. (Maybe that is not super fast by todays standard but it is just an example). The competition sees the popularity of this car and decides to make one better. So the next year they come up with a car that does the 1/4 mile in 14 seconds. Well, that sucks a bit for the 15second guy but, that is the way life is. Every year new things come along that are better faster, smaller, lighters whatever. This however is not what CCP does. If CPP ran a car manufacturing company thenthey would come up with the 14 second car but, they would make the 15 second car all of a sudden turn into a minivan. With hot fix charlie the caldari scout will lose its profile enhancer skill and the ammar logi will lose its secondary weapon. That is not fair (in my opinion). That the ammar gains the profile enhancer capability then that is ok because in theory they probably where working on it but why would the caldari lose that ability all of a sudden? I say the rule of thumb for respect should be as follows. #1 small tweaks to something does NOT require respect. For example a weapon gains or loses a bit of damage. This does not requires respect because the weapon still does the job it is intended. For example if you buy a sniper rifle that does say 500 damage and now it only does 480. Yeah that sucks but it is still a sniper rifle. #2 changes that completely change the way something works (lose an ability) do require respect. Again suppose you buy a sniper rifle and they all of a sudden change it to work like a shot gun. NO NO NO. You bough a sniper rifle so it should be a sniper rifle. It can't be one day sniper rifle and the next day a shotgun. In hot fix charlie the HMG overheating a bit faster is not a super deal breaker because it is a small tweak. So no respect. However, the ammar losing the sidearm is a deal breaker because that whole idea of the ammar logi is to that side arm. They even mentioned giving the side arm to the caldari logi. That doesn't seem fair to me. Is it just the internet that always uses a car analogy? It's bad really. It needs to stop. I've been here through 3 or 4 dropsuit changes without a respec. Deal with it.
Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 222	Posted - 2014.07.14 16:08:00 - [28] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: screw respecs they should just max everyones skill trees and let us go at it. Well they plan on leting people port their toon over to EVE legion so..yeah i can't see this happening LOOOL you are deluded if you really believe they can port your character from a console game to a PC game. It cant be done why because you sign in to your Dust514 via PSN not by a seperate password and account name (like in FF14 ARR). In order for them to be able to port your character they would have to impliment a system so that you could sign in seperately. Basically put if SONY allowed CCP to port our characters we could sue SONY for giving away our personal information because lets face it thats exactly what SONY would have to do to allow such a thing to happen. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 222	Posted - 2014.07.14 16:16:00 - [29] - Quote For those of you saying that a respec is not needed because the game isnt being killed off you really need to open your eyes and see the truth of things. Every online game company has done the same thing. Develop a game put it out there make all kinds of promises (they usually keep their promises CCP on the other hand doesnt) then after a while they get bored and decide to do a new project while keep the older game on life support to continue to generate revenue until the new game gets the green light. Once it does the old game is officially abandoned (with a few minor bug patches) and the new game is the sole project. In other words Dust is being killed off we just dont know when it will be killed off (thats up to CCP to grow a pair and actually start telling us the truth). So im in full favor or a FULL respec because hell we might as well get to try everything in this game before this game is no longer existant. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Leanna Boghin Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 222	Posted - 2014.07.14 16:19:00 - [30] - Quote Minmatar Mercenary 9292 wrote: screw respecs they should just max everyones skill trees and let us go at it. Now thats definately something i would go for. And it would definately even out the match making. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P



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