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FLAY LOCKED
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:31:00 -
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People complaining over cloaked scouts.
I've been squadding up with a lot of different randoms during the last month, and one thing that I've grown tired of are people complaining over comms about cloaked Scouts.
On many occasions, the squad I would be in would be holding an objective. Within the squad, there would be somewhere around three tanked Heavies with Logi support. So, a lone Scout with an SG would attempt to infiltrate the objective. He'd sometimes get a kill but most times he wouldn't. Several other Scouts would attempt to do the same, but would all be shot down.
Now, if one member of the squad gets SGed or REed, that person would start to rant and then the others would chime in and bash the dead Scout for being a scrub and then further complain about the OPness of cloaked scouts. So, I'm standing there thinking, "Really?"
There are several Heavies in one small room defending an objective effectively melting anyone that attempts to come at them, and they're complaining about OP Scouts?
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3569
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:43:00 -
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Who RE's just one person?
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
459
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:50:00 -
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Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got home played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bam shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3573
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:51:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got hope played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bamm shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping.
Bad
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1263
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:52:00 -
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scount op nurf naow it kil my hevy soot
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
459
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:54:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got hope played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bamm shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping. Bad
Damn...
Well I guess that just proves my point even more, I have badish eyes and can still see them, so why can't other people? |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3573
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:56:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got hope played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bamm shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping. Bad Damn...
It's okay glasses are in style now
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
460
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:05:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got hope played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bamm shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping. Bad Damn... It's okay glasses are in style now
True, but what if I'm too stylish? And I get signed on to be a model?and then I get signed to be an actor? and then I get invited to alot of hollywood parties? and then one thing leads to another and I overdose on the toilet in my grandma's house? All because my glasses were in style.... I got some big decision to make.... |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:07:00 -
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It is a bit a silly complaining about the cloaked scouts. Scouts were more terrifying in KillZone 2 then they are here in Dust. At least Dust scouts camo isn't nearly invisible as KZ scouts.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1690
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:13:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are
I would agree but there is an exception, when your playing on a low resolution TV its very hard and sometimes impossible to see them. I know because my TV is low res. |
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:20:00 -
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The best feeling in the world is when you see a cloaked scout some odd meters from you, trying to round your position and you shoot him down while he's cloaked. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3575
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:16:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got hope played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bamm shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping. Bad Damn... It's okay glasses are in style now True, but what if I'm too stylish? And I get signed on to be a model?and then I get signed to be an actor? and then I get invited to alot of hollywood parties? and then one thing leads to another and I overdose on the toilet in my grandma's house? All because my glasses were in style.... I got some big decision to make....
Hey!!! You can never be too stylish!
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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Jett Pezzin
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
197
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Posted - 2014.07.11 08:39:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Who RE's just one person?
When it's a f*cking 1400 armor heavy (<-- ridiculous btw).
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Doctor Day
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
315
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:01:00 -
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I really wan't that extra slot removed from the scout......cloaky re scouts are annoying ._.
Plus they keep half assing logi support which I hate |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10813
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Posted - 2014.07.11 10:34:00 -
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Toupee Fallacy - You can't know how many cloaked people you missed because, well, you didn't see them.
You only know of those that you did see, hence you think cloaks are easy to see.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
3097
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Posted - 2014.07.11 11:37:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got home played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bam shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping.
This kind of post is a textbook example of the Toupee Fallacy.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Toupee_fallacy
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2289
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:03:00 -
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Cloaker scouts before cloaks:
"Ha ha ha! We will be the invisible ninja assassins of Dust! No one will ever see us coming!"
Cloaker scouts now:
"Please don't nerf my safety suit! They're really quite easy to see!"
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3059
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:39:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Cloaked scouts are easy to spot... No really they are, I just had an eye test yesterday, I have like 30/40 vision or something(Idk if thats good or bad) and I got hope played some dust, cloaked scout tries to come to a friendly bamm shot him still cloaked and his corpses lay on the floor. Just look for a either a blue glob running around the battlefield, or distortions in the battlefields, heck I can even see them when I'm sniping. Bad Damn... Well I guess that just proves my point even more, I have badish eyes and can still see them, so why can't other people?
20/20 vision is perfect, at 20 yards you can see what most people see at 20 yards.
30/40 is short sighted, at 30 yards you can only see what most people would see at 40.
However you are looking at a flat screen your target is no further away, even if he is further away in game.
Furthermore different people can struggle while others do not.
I for example am dispraxic (my brain isn't wired up properly), so when there is only a scout infront of me, I can identify amd track him, even while cloaked with ease.
Yet I struggle as soon as their as is more than 1 moving object on my screen at a time, my brain struggles to keep track of where one target should be as I attempt to track another.
Furthermore, it is a cloak, it is designed to make you hard to see.
If the devs hadn't decided that it didn't make you hard enough to see to your average joe, why would they have released a d marketed it as a cloak and not somehing else like active camouflage.
Tldr: It's called a cloak for a reason, if you have no trouble getting cloaked characters, consider it blessing to yourself, not a reason to tell others to get good.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4978
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:39:00 -
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The people who don't spot scouts now, will never spot scouts. They complain because there is nothing they can do vs them.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Yeeeuuuupppp
uptown456
Dark Taboo
437
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:26:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Who RE's just one person?
Someone with a grudge
Rage Proficiency V
Mic status: Muted
Storage Wars Champion.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2457
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:28:00 -
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@ Toupee Fallacy
You may be right, but you also need to demonstrate evidence that there WERE cloaked scouts he missed. Otherwise, you are simply stating an opposite fallacy.
Edit: Not to mention that there were some uncloaked heavies he probably didn't see either. If you think not, google "Invisible Gorilla"
This is how a minja feels
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
6063
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:38:00 -
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Judge makes a video explaining what a toupee fallacy is. Now every time there's a cloak discussion it's just "toupee! TOUPEE! TOUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
But seriously. There's really only one scout that can run a cloak now and that's the gal scout. I often forget cloaks exist because outside of gal scouts nobody runs them.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2093
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:18:00 -
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Jett Pezzin wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Who RE's just one person? When it's a f*cking 1400 armor heavy (<-- ridiculous btw).
Can't get more then 1250 armor with a brick fit.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Jett Pezzin
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
201
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Posted - 2014.07.12 03:59:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Jett Pezzin wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Who RE's just one person? When it's a f*cking 1400 armor heavy (<-- ridiculous btw). Can't get more then 1250 armor with a brick fit.
Still. Ridiculous. No heavy needs that much armor. (Should be 800 max + shield)
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