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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:33:00 -
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Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just caused destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again.
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2090
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:39:00 -
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This is a terrible idea. I've been soloing HAVs all day in my LAV/Forge combo...
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3567
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:40:00 -
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Maybe a bit.
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10360
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This is a terrible idea. I've been soloing HAVs all day in my LAV/Forge combo... As have I, but it feels too meaningless, and empty.
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:48:00 -
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So let me guess, this is a shot in the dark aimed at Calvin B. You love talking about people in your own slick way. I give this thread 1/10 |
Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10360
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:49:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:So let me guess, this is a shot in the dark aimed at Calvin B. You love talking about people in your own slick way. I give this thread 1/10 No, this is actually meant to be a parody of pilots who say that vehicles are boring and meaningless.
Why would I be taking a shot at calvin b?
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2090
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:51:00 -
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Vehicles are a bit boring though after we have so few modules. I understand them cutting out redundant modules to help balance, I just wish that CCP could find new modules with new functions to add that people would consider using.
*shrugs*
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4244
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:54:00 -
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Increase Destroyed Equipment Payout Percentages!!!
I want at least 75% of the ISK value of everything I terminate.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
Console Master Race
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
850
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:55:00 -
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With this logic, heavies should cost 300k a pop.
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11780
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just caused destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again.
So this benefits you and makes tanking both boring AND expensive.
"So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:So let me guess, this is a shot in the dark aimed at Calvin B. You love talking about people in your own slick way. I give this thread 1/10 No, this is actually meant to be a parody of pilots who say that vehicles are boring and meaningless. Why would I be taking a shot at calvin b?
Because you read the thread and you have a habit of making threads based off of posts written by other players. It's not that hard to notice that. |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo
732
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Posted - 2014.07.11 03:43:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This is a terrible idea. I've been soloing HAVs all day in my LAV/Forge combo... and ive been murdering them with my swarms. hav's are laughable thesse days.
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Justice Prevails
282
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Posted - 2014.07.11 04:38:00 -
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"-Insert Hav name- Damage/ Destruction" is still enough to make me smile. Keep the prices where they're at. Vehicles are losing an entire game mode, no need to kick them while they're down.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1690
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Posted - 2014.07.11 05:18:00 -
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Raise it to what exactly? |
Defy Gravity
447
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again. +1
If I kill you in game, look for a confirmation that says "I Just Killed You"
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Vicious Minotaur
1079
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:19:00 -
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I want cheaper HAVs. I want some damned vehicle spam. I want vehicles to be as throw away -able as dropsuits can be. I want this now that ambush is no longer capable of providing a quick AV fix.
Such a thing guarantees me vehicles to sink my AV "teeth" into. Too often I find myself in a domination or skirmish where my millions of SP are of zero use, forcing me into my less than ideal secondary roles.
I am a minotaur.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
923
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:57:00 -
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i say bring back overdrives. theyres nothing to put on lavs now that overdrives are gone. you can increase the cost as long as speed tanking can comeback like 1.6 when av and vehicle balance was nearly perfect. before they made everything way to fast like 1.7
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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edguy 111
Never 2 Late
43
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:44:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Increase Destroyed Equipment Payout Percentages!!!
I want at least 75% of the ISK value of everything I terminate.
LOL i destroyed 7 tanks in a skirmish yersterday,it would have be awesome to get 75% of that!
waaaazzaaaaa!
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Alena Ventrallis
S0VER31GN
1447
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:51:00 -
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Boost AV weaponry prices. 150k for swarms, 225k for forges.
Hey, you want to take out a 500k isk tank? You better pay for it.
Rattati has spoken. CalScout hitbox is fine. You're gun game is broken.
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edguy 111
Never 2 Late
43
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:51:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This is a terrible idea. I've been soloing HAVs all day in my LAV/Forge combo... and ive been murdering them with my swarms. hav's are laughable thesse days. i agree,the only tank that give me trouble is a 5000hp gunlogi. i think i see a rep madrugar earlier? he was repainting faster than my forge gun was charging,and it was a forge lv5.
waaaazzaaaaa!
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
869
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This is a terrible idea. I've been soloing HAVs all day in my LAV/Forge combo... As have I, but it feels too meaningless, and empty. It's meaningless and empty because it's so easy to do anymore. I haven't been in a single game where a tank lasted longer than about 2 minutes before being cornered and blown up. (by me and others of course)
Unless you're willing to increase the defenses and offense of the tanks back to their pre "alteration" they're clearly not worth the increase in price. In fact, CCP has recognized this and is dropping the price on Dropships as well, because they were exorbitant compared to the actual time of use they get on the field anymore.
I suggest you think carefully about your request, because you will be crying about OP tanks in no time if they have to scale them up to match their price.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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edguy 111
Never 2 Late
43
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:56:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Boost AV weaponry prices. 150k for swarms, 225k for forges.
Hey, you want to take out a 500k isk tank? You better pay for it. lol sometimes the 3 dropsuit you use to destroy a soma worth much more.3 adv commando with a wirkomy swarm cost me 70k and a soma is like what 100k?
waaaazzaaaaa!
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
177
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Posted - 2014.07.11 09:39:00 -
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edguy 111 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Boost AV weaponry prices. 150k for swarms, 225k for forges.
Hey, you want to take out a 500k isk tank? You better pay for it. lol sometimes the 3 dropsuit you use to destroy a soma worth much more.3 adv commando with a wirkomy swarm cost me 70k and a soma is like what 100k?
Ok listen. To destroy soma you need 1guy with forge (cost 30-40k DAU FG)
To destroy proto fited madrugar you need 1 guy with IAFG (prof 3, 2-3dmg mods) that costs 70k!!.. So 500k tank pooped by 70k heavy (because heavy have fked up cpu pg that can eqiup proto,compx on adv).
Next time dont post stupid stuff like this. |
Doctor Day
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
315
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Posted - 2014.07.11 09:55:00 -
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A Increase to the price of the HAV???
LOLNO Jihad jeeps are a thing...... |
Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2014.07.11 11:38:00 -
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Bait/10 |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.07.11 11:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again. So you want another tank nerf for AV to be exciting again? When will you ever stop demanding your way? You're like a petulant child. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.07.11 11:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:This is a terrible idea. I've been soloing HAVs all day in my LAV/Forge combo... As have I, but it feels too meaningless, and empty. You asked for it. |
Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
457
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:29:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I want cheaper HAVs. I want some damned vehicle spam. I want vehicles to be as throw away -able as dropsuits can be. I want this now that ambush is no longer capable of providing a quick AV fix.
Such a thing guarantees me vehicles to sink my AV "teeth" into. Too often I find myself in a domination or skirmish where my millions of SP are of zero use, forcing me into my less than ideal secondary roles.
-åThis!
Give them away free, for all I care.
The cheaper the better so scrubby pilots can spam them, and specialized AV players will always have something to shoot at! |
Justice Prevails
282
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Posted - 2014.07.11 12:54:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I want cheaper HAVs. I want some damned vehicle spam. I want vehicles to be as throw away -able as dropsuits can be. I want this now that ambush is no longer capable of providing a quick AV fix.
Such a thing guarantees me vehicles to sink my AV "teeth" into. Too often I find myself in a domination or skirmish where my millions of SP are of zero use, forcing me into my less than ideal secondary roles.
-åThis! Give them away free, for all I care. The cheaper the better so scrubby pilots can spam them, and specialized AV players will always have something to shoot at!
This! +infinity!
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1132
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again.
Oh, so AVing HAVs to shreds has become so commonplace, routine and trivial it needs some new spice to keep it enjoyable?
Fascinating.
:-S
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NAV HIV
The Generals Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again.
Yes please... SOMA/SICA costs 50+ k per tank...
HMG - Costs almost the same
Viziam, ASCR, Boundless CR and Six kin CR cost more than a tank .... Logic ?! |
Sum1ne Else
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1266
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:12:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:With this logic, heavies should cost 300k a pop. LOL
Impressive? Longest PLC Kill 151.8m - OHK on a Heavy
Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0
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Yokal Bob
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
554
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again.
What 500k is not expensive enough?
Im fine with that if they bring back the the enforcers, give the vehicles a buff, and bring back the normal dot for blaster turrets.
Stop the useless hate, I run on the ground as well as tanking, have my proto AV etc
I see so many anti tankers threads, but hardly any regarding ADS, sad sad people
If its not anime, its not real
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NAV HIV
The Generals Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:25:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:With this logic, heavies should cost 300k a pop. LOL
But they still cost more than a madrugar with two reppers, hardener and neutron blaster... Your point ?! |
NAV HIV
The Generals Anime Empire.
1879
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Posted - 2014.07.11 13:27:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again. What 500k is not expensive enough? Im fine with that if they bring back the the enforcers, give the vehicles a buff, and bring back the normal dot for blaster turrets. Stop the useless hate, I run on the ground as well as tanking, have my proto AV etc I see so many anti tankers threads, but hardly any regarding ADS, sad sad people
ADS .... Omg... I dont mind if they retreat to Red line quickly to heal themselves, but that Ceiling on the MAP ridiculously high.... It's almost 3-4 times the range of any AV weapon... I wish i could go underground with my scout suit to quickly regem my health when i'm under fire and come back again few seconds later lol |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again.
Hi Atiim, and THREE CHEERS to your thinking. (But, of course just raising the cost of the big vehicles in the game, by itself will only cause trouble--it needs to be done in careful conjunction with a couple of other components, to serve as a control/buffer against rocking the galactic boat). But your mindset is correct!
The game WAS about making the player feel "stuck" between two decisions as he/she enters each match: "Do I RISK my cherry-sweet powerhouse suit/Lav/HAV right now because I see a wide open opportunity in this particular match to devestate the reds"?-----or "Do I keep my honey in the garage this time because it's too VALUABLE to endanger unless I see a sweet and tempting reward"? That RISK-for-REWARD equation seems to be what EVE Online raves about, and they spend days and weeks after a noteworthy battle, just trying to tally how much material was destroyed and how much ISK lost. It's a 'VALUE' thing.
I remember playing this game around its May release date, and that "value" in ISK was nice and high. Owners compained constantly about having their pricy HAV roasted, and pricy Dropships turned into PopTarts within the first 30 seconds of gameplay (....cuz we learned the hardway not to do practice-driving where you could get shot at...duh, LOL). But THAT WAS GOOD, to me! --It curbed the shear number of vehicle players who populated the map.... --It reduced the reflex tendency to quickly replace your precious vehicle the moment it got destroyed... --It raised the calibre of vehicle players who lingered on the map (only the skilled ones felt confident that they could strafe the map through the entire session without getting destroyed). --And it made vehicle-players like myself a real gut-wrenching thrill to the decision to use my vehicle.
Knowing my 3 mill ISK toy could be lost in 3 seconds if I get careless... and knowing that there were AVers out there who were ready to drop their pants to score a successful kill off of my DS... gave me GREAT high blood pressure!!
I miss that High-vehicle-cost nervousness we used to have. These days, I can trick out my DS for cheap, and not feel any pain if I lose it.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Yokal Bob
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
559
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:13:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:Atiim wrote:Maybe then the thrill of knowing that you just destroyed tons of ISK that will take forever to earn shall return, and AV will be exciting again. Hi Atiim, and THREE CHEERS to your thinking. (But, of course just raising the cost of the big vehicles in the game, by itself will only cause trouble--it needs to be done in careful conjunction with a couple of other components, to serve as a control/buffer against rocking the galactic boat). But your mindset is correct! The game WAS about making the player feel "stuck" between two decisions as he/she enters each match: "Do I RISK my cherry-sweet powerhouse suit/Lav/HAV right now because I see a wide open opportunity in this particular match to devestate the reds"?-----or "Do I keep my honey in the garage this time because it's too VALUABLE to endanger unless I see a sweet and tempting reward"? That RISK-for-REWARD equation seems to be what EVE Online raves about, and they spend days and weeks after a noteworthy battle, just trying to tally how much material was destroyed and how much ISK lost. It's a 'VALUE' thing. I remember playing this game around its May release date, and that "value" in ISK was nice and high. Owners compained constantly about having their pricy HAV roasted, and pricy Dropships turned into PopTarts within the first 30 seconds of gameplay (....cuz we learned the hardway not to do practice-driving where you could get shot at...duh, LOL). But THAT WAS GOOD, to me! --It curbed the shear number of vehicle players who populated the map.... --It reduced the reflex tendency to quickly replace your precious vehicle the moment it got destroyed... --It raised the calibre of vehicle players who lingered on the map (only the skilled ones felt confident that they could strafe the map through the entire session without getting destroyed). --And it made vehicle-players like myself a real gut-wrenching thrill to the decision to use my vehicle. Knowing my 3 mill ISK toy could be lost in 3 seconds if I get careless... and knowing that there were AVers out there who were ready to drop their pants to score a successful kill off of my DS... gave me GREAT high blood pressure!! I miss that High-vehicle-cost nervousness we used to have. These days, I can trick out my DS for cheap, and not feel any pain if I lose it.
Tanks are not worth 3 mil isk these days
If its not anime, its not real
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
257
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:38:00 -
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As someone who has done alot of AVing, let me say the most rewarding AV (besides prox mines), is the missile fitted hit and run tank.
Sure its fun to forge gun tanks into submission, and to suicide LAV them, and ambush them with mines. But there is nothing quite like rolling up behind a Ion Cannon triple rep Maddy with a missile fitted Soma, waiting for the right moment, and then unloading a slice of armageddon into its flank.
You can almost sense the desperation as it vainly tries to flee the onslaught, only to become a scorched hull moments later, with this dreams and ISK consumed by the flames. |
Herrick Arcos
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
123
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Posted - 2014.07.11 14:42:00 -
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Tanks are nowhere near worth the exorbant prices they were going for. I feel sick pulling out my 550k setup because I know the chance that it will be jlav'd into oblivion is extremely high. I don't even mind the place tanks are in. I can even deal with the rotund reticle (easier to spot scouts with). But as long as my fittings are so restricted and jlav's are a thing tank prices need to remain somewhat forgiving. |
Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10370
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:47:00 -
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I'm surprised people actually took this seriously.
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
11
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:03:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:edguy 111 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Boost AV weaponry prices. 150k for swarms, 225k for forges.
Hey, you want to take out a 500k isk tank? You better pay for it. lol sometimes the 3 dropsuit you use to destroy a soma worth much more.3 adv commando with a wirkomy swarm cost me 70k and a soma is like what 100k? Ok listen. To destroy soma you need 1guy with forge (cost 30-40k DAU FG) To destroy proto fited madrugar you need 1 guy with IAFG (prof 3, 2-3dmg mods) that costs 70k!!.. So 500k tank pooped by 70k heavy (because heavy have fked up cpu pg that can eqiup proto,compx on adv). Next time dont post stupid stuff like this.
Hmm you better not be a financial advisor or something along those lines.. Wow
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alphashot killer
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:05:00 -
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i cost a ******* lot of money |
alphashot killer
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:11:00 -
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i mean it costs a **** load of ******* money
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