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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:55:00 -
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A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc.
All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone
Father Of Hip-Hop 514
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1459
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:59:00 -
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Top sticky.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3762
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Posted - 2014.07.02 19:00:00 -
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A large railgun turret.
Just like every other Englishmen, I bath in tea, have no teeth and live in a castle.
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Yoma Carrim
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo
587
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Posted - 2014.07.02 19:21:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc. All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal.)
Played a couple RTS's but that's about it cense then.
But back to the topic at hand; Caricter name- yes, SP- Depends on what skills carry over, Isk-......no
Oh Heck
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Senator Snipe
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
175
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Posted - 2014.07.23 02:48:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc. All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal. ) Played a couple RTS's but that's about it cense then. But back to the topic at hand; Caricter name- yes, SP- Depends on what skills carry over, Isk-......no
LMFAO why would they take the ISK away?
My forge skills are unmatchable.
It's not that i lose battles, its just that sometimes i don't feel like winning them.
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McFurious
TeamPlayers
796
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Posted - 2014.07.23 04:30:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc. All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal. ) Played a couple RTS's but that's about it cense then. But back to the topic at hand; Caricter name- yes, SP- Depends on what skills carry over, Isk-......no LMFAO why would they take the ISK away?
Probably due to the millions/billions that certain corps made from locking districts.
My character is sitting on over 350 million. I'll miss it but carrying over my name and SP would be enough.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Grizzled Masshole Closed Beta Vet
PC > Console
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8901
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Posted - 2014.07.23 04:44:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc. All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal. ) Played a couple RTS's but that's about it cense then. But back to the topic at hand; Caricter name- yes, SP- Depends on what skills carry over, Isk-......no LMFAO why would they take the ISK away?
To anyone who has decent knowledge of New Eden economics, the reason is obvious. Blatantly obvious. To the uninitiated, they don't see it unless it's explained to them.
The vast majority of the ISK flowing in Dust 514 was gained unfairly and the manner it was gained was unintended by CCP. That manner is infamously known as PC District Locking. Nowadays, that's not possible anymore but the damage has already been done. There is still too much ISK in circulation and not enough sinks to cumulatively get rid of the excess ISK nor keep it under control.
But to be fair to folks like you, it is clearly known that CCP will design Legion as a stand-alone shooter in the short term part of its development from that of Eve Online until CCP is sure it's ready for the Eve-Legion economic merger. Until then, the ISK from Dust going into Legion will have no impact on Eve Online.
If ISK were to be transferred over with the Dust character however, then CCP needs to make absolutely sure that there is enough ISK sinks to balance the ISK faucets so that ISK in circulation remains under control. I can think of many ISK sinks that are perfect for Legion in destroying the excess ISK from the economy. These can be implemented on day one.
1. Upkeep Fees for fueling districts owned by corporations. 2. Broker Fees for creating both Buy and Sell orders on the secondary market. 3. Broker Fees for modifying your own existing Buy/Sell orders on the secondary market. 4. Broker Fees for creating a peer-to-peer exchange/auction contract. 5. Sales Tax on your profits for whenever someone else completes your Sell order on the secondary market. 6. Skill Books for expanding on trade skills such as being able to establish X amount of Buy/Sell orders per level. 7. Skill Books for expanding on trade skills such as being able to extend the range (# of jumps) of establishing and modifying your Buy/Sell orders per level. 8. Skill Books for expanding on how many contracts you can setup per level. 9. Transport Fees for whenever you want to move from station to station, system to system, or region to region.
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Senator Snipe
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
175
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Senator Snipe wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc. All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal. ) Played a couple RTS's but that's about it cense then. But back to the topic at hand; Caricter name- yes, SP- Depends on what skills carry over, Isk-......no LMFAO why would they take the ISK away? To anyone who has decent knowledge of New Eden economics, the reason is obvious. Blatantly obvious. To the uninitiated, they don't see it unless it's explained to them. The vast majority of the ISK flowing in Dust 514 was gained unfairly and the manner it was gained was unintended by CCP. That manner is infamously known as PC District Locking. Nowadays, that's not possible anymore but the damage has already been done. There is still too much ISK in circulation and not enough sinks to cumulatively get rid of the excess ISK nor keep it under control. But to be fair to folks like you, it is clearly known that CCP will design Legion as a stand-alone shooter in the short term part of its development from that of Eve Online until CCP is sure it's ready for the Eve-Legion economic merger. Until then, the ISK from Dust going into Legion will have no impact on Eve Online. If ISK were to be transferred over with the Dust character however, then CCP needs to make absolutely sure that there is enough ISK sinks to balance the ISK faucets so that ISK in circulation remains under control. I can think of many ISK sinks that are perfect for Legion in destroying the excess ISK from the economy. These can be implemented on day one. 1. Upkeep Fees for fueling districts owned by corporations. 2. Broker Fees for creating both Buy and Sell orders on the secondary market. 3. Broker Fees for modifying your own existing Buy/Sell orders on the secondary market. 4. Broker Fees for creating a peer-to-peer exchange/auction contract. 5. Sales Tax on your profits for whenever someone else completes your Sell order on the secondary market. 6. Skill Books for expanding on trade skills such as being able to establish X amount of Buy/Sell orders per level. 7. Skill Books for expanding on trade skills such as being able to extend the range (# of jumps) of establishing and modifying your Buy/Sell orders per level. 8. Skill Books for expanding on how many contracts you can setup per level. 9. Transport Fees for whenever you want to move from station to station, system to system, or region to region.
there are no more districk locking scandals, so no isk farming. By the time Legion comes out we will be more balanced than we are now. We don't get payouts for doing pc like we used to.
My forge skills are unmatchable.
It's not that i lose battles, its just that sometimes i don't feel like winning them.
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Turkevich
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.07.23 14:24:00 -
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Except that statement doesn't really say anything. CCP could deem zero to be "applicable". Also, CCP obviously considers the word "soon" to mean more than 2.5 months.
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Games Haven
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
221
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:05:00 -
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The fact that CCP hasn't touched on this concerns me greatly.
Even Kain Spero doubts there will be a 1:1 SP transfer.
The struggle is real.
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Dnaizohd Orlenaard
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Senator Snipe wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:A lot of people rage over being abandoned and all that stuff and dust started on console whining and etc. All I ask is will I keep my toon/s? If so I do not have any problem with legion as the influx of new players will feed my weapons And aim assist will be gone I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal. ) Played a couple RTS's but that's about it cense then. But back to the topic at hand; Caricter name- yes, SP- Depends on what skills carry over, Isk-......no LMFAO why would they take the ISK away? To anyone who has decent knowledge of New Eden economics, the reason is obvious. Blatantly obvious. To the uninitiated, they don't see it unless it's explained to them. The vast majority of the ISK flowing in Dust 514 was gained unfairly and the manner it was gained was unintended by CCP. That manner is infamously known as PC District Locking. Nowadays, that's not possible anymore but the damage has already been done. There is still too much ISK in circulation and not enough sinks to cumulatively get rid of the excess ISK nor keep it under control. But to be fair to folks like you, it is clearly known that CCP will design Legion as a stand-alone shooter in the short term part of its development from that of Eve Online until CCP is sure it's ready for the Eve-Legion economic merger. Until then, the ISK from Dust going into Legion will have no impact on Eve Online. If ISK were to be transferred over with the Dust character however, then CCP needs to make absolutely sure that there is enough ISK sinks to balance the ISK faucets so that ISK in circulation remains under control. I can think of many ISK sinks that are perfect for Legion in destroying the excess ISK from the economy. These can be implemented on day one. 1. Upkeep Fees for fueling districts owned by corporations. 2. Broker Fees for creating both Buy and Sell orders on the secondary market. 3. Broker Fees for modifying your own existing Buy/Sell orders on the secondary market. 4. Broker Fees for creating a peer-to-peer exchange/auction contract. 5. Sales Tax on your profits for whenever someone else completes your Sell order on the secondary market. 6. Skill Books for expanding on trade skills such as being able to establish X amount of Buy/Sell orders per level. 7. Skill Books for expanding on trade skills such as being able to extend the range (# of jumps) of establishing and modifying your Buy/Sell orders per level. 8. Skill Books for expanding on how many contracts you can setup per level. 9. Transport Fees for whenever you want to move from station to station, system to system, or region to region.
From a Lore perspective, the amount of ISK you gain as a capsuleer, is far greater, than anything else, afterall, we're buying trading at a large scale (spaceships).
Dust on the other hand we are dealing with weapons and gear that obviously, should cost less.
If there's going to be a link between the two, it makes sense that corporations in EVE will feed the Dust Corps with enough ISK so that there isn't any problem regarding equipment scarcity...that or there exists some sort of 90% tax that basically takes away a big portion of the money being sent, but is that even a viable solution, or just an excuse to not come up with a more significant and interesting system?
Do educate me on the matter though, I could be missing something but I do believe this is a serious question and, doesn't necessarily mean that the ISK should be taken away from us.
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Turkevich
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.07.23 18:06:00 -
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Games Haven wrote:Even Kain Spero doubts there will be a 1:1 SP transfer.
That is a given. The skill trees are going to be different so 1 point in Dust won't equal 1 point in Legion. Best we can hope for is an equitable distribution. Although I'm not holding my breath.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8902
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:28:00 -
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@Dnaizohd Orlenaard
Well, the principle issue we have here is not because that much of the ISK still in circulation in Dust has been ill-gained but that CCP will have a hard time trying to keep the exploiters from transferring with their ill-gotten ISK without incidentally punishing those who put in legitimate effort in earning their own ISK.
One would argue that having everyone in Legion transferring over from Dust should start with only the bare minimum starter of 5,000 ISK* which is what all Eve Online players start with in the beginning of their lifetimes. This will surely prevent exploiters from carrying over their spoils but, again, that will only punish those players who were honest in gaining their ISK in Dust.
An alternative would be to cap their transfer of ISK from Dust to Legion up to maybe 50-100 million ISK but I'm not sure how practical that may be.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Dnaizohd Orlenaard
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:27:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Dnaizohd Orlenaard
Well, the principle issue we have here is not because that much of the ISK still in circulation in Dust has been ill-gained but that CCP will have a hard time trying to keep the exploiters from transferring with their ill-gotten ISK without incidentally punishing those who put in legitimate effort in earning their own ISK.
One would argue that having everyone in Legion transferring over from Dust should start with only the bare minimum starter of 5,000 ISK* which is what all Eve Online players start with in the beginning of their lifetimes. This will surely prevent exploiters from carrying over their spoils but, again, that will only punish those players who were honest in gaining their ISK in Dust.
An alternative would be to cap their transfer of ISK from Dust to Legion up to maybe 50-100 million ISK but I'm not sure how practical that may be.
* - In addition to the starting 5,000 ISK, an Eve character takes no less than 24 hours to biomass. This highly discourages any attempt to farm the starter ISK.
I completely missed the point I see xD
Thanks for clearing it up, and perhaps the cap would be a better solution yes.
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Senator Snipe
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
177
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:03:00 -
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Games Haven wrote:The fact that CCP hasn't touched on this concerns me greatly.
Even Kain Spero doubts there will be a 1:1 SP transfer.
**** kain spero
My forge skills are unmatchable.
It's not that i lose battles, its just that sometimes i don't feel like winning them.
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Senator Snipe
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
177
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:04:00 -
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Turkevich wrote:Games Haven wrote:Even Kain Spero doubts there will be a 1:1 SP transfer. That is a given. The skill trees are going to be different so 1 point in Dust won't equal 1 point in Legion. Best we can hope for is an equitable distribution. Although I'm not holding my breath.
it would be unwise for them to just restart us like that
My forge skills are unmatchable.
It's not that i lose battles, its just that sometimes i don't feel like winning them.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3963
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:11:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:I think the last shooter I played on PC was Chex Quest (sue me it was free and came with cereal. ) The last PC FPS I played was DOOM in 1993.
Of course I had never played a FPS on the consul before I bought a PS3 to play DUST 514.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
3964
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:25:00 -
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Games Haven wrote:The fact that CCP hasn't touched on this concerns me greatly.
Even Kain Spero doubts there will be a 1:1 SP transfer. Well there is no guarantee that 1 skill point will be worth the same in Legion as it is in DUST, so of course they canGÇÖt promise a 1:1 transfer. Nor should we insist on a 1:1 transfer.
If you donGÇÖt understand this, then I would be happy to trade you 1000 US dollars for 1000 Euros.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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lateris ablon
Commando Perkone Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:36:00 -
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From an economic perspective I don't feel there should be any ISK transfers from Dust 514 to Legion, but I do feel Plex should be available in Project Legion just like it is in Eve. Considering right now that "jobs" are part of the design per PC game article they have to start Project Legion out with a blank start or the economy will inflate incorrectly.
ATC
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Senator Snipe
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
178
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:42:00 -
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lateris ablon wrote:From an economic perspective I don't feel there should be any ISK transfers from Dust 514 to Legion, but I do feel Plex should be available in Project Legion just like it is in Eve. Considering right now that "jobs" are part of the design per PC game article they have to start Project Legion out with a blank start or the economy will inflate incorrectly.
isk should be there so should SP. all we would be able to do is be able to afford more of our suits, thats it. ISK is not the issure at all
My forge skills are unmatchable.
It's not that i lose battles, its just that sometimes i don't feel like winning them.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8914
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:43:00 -
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lateris ablon wrote:From an economic perspective I don't feel there should be any ISK transfers from Dust 514 to Legion, but I do feel Plex should be available in Project Legion just like it is in Eve. Considering right now that "jobs" are part of the design per PC game article they have to start Project Legion out with a blank start or the economy will inflate incorrectly.
Actually, I'm ok with ISK being transferred as long as there are sufficient ISK SINKS (mechanics that destroy ISK from circulation over time) to control the flow of such currency. Besides, as stated by the article that you linked, the ISK in Legion will have no effect on Eve's economy as they are not going to be linked for quite some time. This will give us time to drain the excess ISK from circulation before it can be merged with Eve Online. That's a practical solution to me.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Tallen Ellecon
2010
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:17:00 -
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I was originally against ISK transfer, since certain parties in Dust have enough to tip the balance at the start, but with the elimination of passive ISK in PC I think it will start to even itself out, I've earned enough from running around in BPOs for months I'd hate for it to go to waste when this game ends.
So now the things I want In order of importance. Name SP Exclusive/limited/event/officer/BPO gear AUR AUR items/ AUR refund on remaining AUR items ISK ISK items/ ISK refund on remaining ISK items
Blehh..
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8914
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:28:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:I was originally against ISK transfer, since certain parties in Dust have enough to tip the balance at the start, but with the elimination of passive ISK in PC I think it will start to even itself out, I've earned enough from running around in BPOs for months I'd hate for it to go to waste when this game ends.
So now the things I want In order of importance. Name SP Exclusive/limited/event/officer/BPO gear AUR AUR items/ AUR refund on remaining AUR items ISK ISK items/ ISK refund on remaining ISK items
That's actually a very good priority list and I strongly agree that our name should take absolute priority over everything. This is our name after all and we each made a reputation with them. People have known me for being a nova knife expert, Judge Rhadamanthus being known for his objective observation in regards to vehicle balance, CEOPyrex CloneA being known for his antics and his SquadB YouTube channel, and practically anyone involved in the CPM0 and CPM1 plus everyone else. It will be a damn shame if someone else took our names.
EDIT:
Oh yeah, and the Exclusive/limited/event/officer/BPO gear is also highly important since some of us (like me) have collected ULTRA-Rare items that were once available in the NPC market but then got subsequently removed from the market but still remained in our inventory. EXAMPLE: The 'Kindred' Scout suit which is an AUR suit that was colored red and white before it lost it's famous color during the later updates to Dust. Although it now seems those suits will finally get their colors back in Hotfix Charlie.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1564
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:29:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:isk should be there so should SP. all we would be able to do is be able to afford more of our suits, thats it. ISK is not the issure at all And this right here is the reason why ISK needs to either rot in dust or be severely (like, 10m tops severely) capped.
Dust ISK lets you buy stuff seeded by the server and that's it. There's little one can do to multiply it and there's no real need to since there's barely anything that can be done with it to affect other players.
In Legion however stuff won't be seeded for the most part but has to be found by someone. That someone then sells it for ISK to another person and uses said ISK to buy something he wants that yet another person salvaged. Items will be scarce and the AR you buy from someone is not generated out of thin air. It actually changes hands from one person to another.
This means that ISK suddenly gets a wide variety of uses and its amount matters beyond whether you can afford your stuff or not. Think price fixing by buying all types of one item, then reselling it for twice as much. Drying out the market for powerful AV weapons in a region, then proceed to stomp that region with your vehicle based squad/battalion (then sell the AV for three times as much and leave). I'm fairly certain a committed minority does have this kind of money.
Carrying over ISK from Dust to Legion is dangerous in its own because it gives Dust vets an advantage most of them don't even realize quite yet. Taking into account that Dust has a long history of illicit ISK generation on a very large scale, the impact of which in Dust is only mitigated by its complete lack of a real economy, makes Dust ISK a great thread for Legion in my eyes.
Fun fact: Character recycling seems to be still going on. Remember, that thing that's estimated to generate as much ISK as the pre-fix PC ecosystem? These people are still doing it and will keep doing it until CCP finally swings the ban hammer. This might turn out to be much, much worse than even the district locking corps but we have no way of knowing because this ISK has little impact on a non-existent economy.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8914
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:42:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Senator Snipe wrote:isk should be there so should SP. all we would be able to do is be able to afford more of our suits, thats it. ISK is not the issure at all And this right here is the reason why ISK needs to either rot in dust or be severely (like, 10m tops severely) capped. Dust ISK lets you buy stuff seeded by the server and that's it. There's little one can do to multiply it and there's no real need to since there's barely anything that can be done with it to affect other players. In Legion however stuff won't be seeded for the most part but has to be found by someone. That someone then sells it for ISK to another person and uses said ISK to buy something he wants that yet another person salvaged. Items will be scarce and the AR you buy from someone is not generated out of thin air. It actually changes hands from one person to another. This means that ISK suddenly gets a wide variety of uses and its amount matters beyond whether you can afford your stuff or not. Think price fixing by buying all types of one item, then reselling it for twice as much. Drying out the market for powerful AV weapons in a region, then proceed to stomp that region with your vehicle based squad/battalion (then sell the AV for three times as much and leave ). I'm fairly certain a committed minority does have this kind of money. Carrying over ISK from Dust to Legion is dangerous in its own because it gives Dust vets an advantage most of them don't even realize quite yet. Taking into account that Dust has a long history of illicit ISK generation on a very large scale, the impact of which in Dust is only mitigated by its complete lack of a real economy, makes Dust ISK a great thread for Legion in my eyes. Fun fact: Character recycling seems to be still going on. Remember, that thing that's estimated to generate as much ISK as the pre-fix PC ecosystem? These people are still doing it and will keep doing it until CCP finally swings the ban hammer. This might turn out to be much, much worse than even the district locking corps but we have no way of knowing because this ISK has little impact on a non-existent economy.
Well, with PC now completely losing its ATM-like nature, the amount of ISK pumped into Dust has been reduced. However I do agree with you that character recycling in Dust needs to be fixed now. My recommendation to them, if they don't want too much ISK carried over to Legion, is to reduce the starter ISK to no more than 5,000 ISK and also extend the biomass timer from 10 hours to 24 hours. This will bring it in line with the Eve Online characters that first started their careers and will completely discourage the exploiters.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1564
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:*snip*Well, with PC now completely losing its ATM-like nature, the amount of ISK pumped into Dust has been reduced. However I do agree with you that character recycling in Dust needs to be fixed now. My recommendation to them, if they don't want too much ISK carried over to Legion, is to reduce the starter ISK to no more than 5,000 ISK and also extend the biomass timer from 10 hours to 24 hours. This will bring it in line with the Eve Online characters that first started their careers and will completely discourage the exploiters. I agree that PC is essentially "fixed" now and that farming character could (read: must) follow suit.
But, to be considered an argument to carry over more/any ISK, both rely on the unspoken assumption that the fixes will somehow naturally "even up" ISK levels before Legion release. Basically, that all of these groups are now going to spend the farmed ISK at an increased rate so that a "normality" re-establishes itself over time.
I think this assumption is false and the fact that we have/had ISK farming activities like that which provide very little practical benefit in the current state of Dust is a testament of that. I highly doubt this ISK is pent 100% on protostimping
The fact that some go out of their way to generate more and more ISK leads me to believe that they have been doing it to strong-arm the economy into submission on the day it's going live.
This won't happen any more in Dust so some might say "screw it" and burn all the money. Others will just wait for Legion and in the meantime find ways to maintain/increase their buying power in preparation.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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mollerz
4359
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Posted - 2014.07.26 06:49:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote: So now the things I want In order of importance. Name SP Exclusive/limited/event/officer/BPO gear AUR AUR items/ AUR refund on remaining AUR items ISK ISK items/ ISK refund on remaining ISK items
agreed.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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