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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:59:00 -
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Top sticky.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:29:00 -
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Senator Snipe wrote:isk should be there so should SP. all we would be able to do is be able to afford more of our suits, thats it. ISK is not the issure at all And this right here is the reason why ISK needs to either rot in dust or be severely (like, 10m tops severely) capped.
Dust ISK lets you buy stuff seeded by the server and that's it. There's little one can do to multiply it and there's no real need to since there's barely anything that can be done with it to affect other players.
In Legion however stuff won't be seeded for the most part but has to be found by someone. That someone then sells it for ISK to another person and uses said ISK to buy something he wants that yet another person salvaged. Items will be scarce and the AR you buy from someone is not generated out of thin air. It actually changes hands from one person to another.
This means that ISK suddenly gets a wide variety of uses and its amount matters beyond whether you can afford your stuff or not. Think price fixing by buying all types of one item, then reselling it for twice as much. Drying out the market for powerful AV weapons in a region, then proceed to stomp that region with your vehicle based squad/battalion (then sell the AV for three times as much and leave ). I'm fairly certain a committed minority does have this kind of money.
Carrying over ISK from Dust to Legion is dangerous in its own because it gives Dust vets an advantage most of them don't even realize quite yet. Taking into account that Dust has a long history of illicit ISK generation on a very large scale, the impact of which in Dust is only mitigated by its complete lack of a real economy, makes Dust ISK a great thread for Legion in my eyes.
Fun fact: Character recycling seems to be still going on. Remember, that thing that's estimated to generate as much ISK as the pre-fix PC ecosystem? These people are still doing it and will keep doing it until CCP finally swings the ban hammer. This might turn out to be much, much worse than even the district locking corps but we have no way of knowing because this ISK has little impact on a non-existent economy.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:*snip*Well, with PC now completely losing its ATM-like nature, the amount of ISK pumped into Dust has been reduced. However I do agree with you that character recycling in Dust needs to be fixed now. My recommendation to them, if they don't want too much ISK carried over to Legion, is to reduce the starter ISK to no more than 5,000 ISK and also extend the biomass timer from 10 hours to 24 hours. This will bring it in line with the Eve Online characters that first started their careers and will completely discourage the exploiters. I agree that PC is essentially "fixed" now and that farming character could (read: must) follow suit.
But, to be considered an argument to carry over more/any ISK, both rely on the unspoken assumption that the fixes will somehow naturally "even up" ISK levels before Legion release. Basically, that all of these groups are now going to spend the farmed ISK at an increased rate so that a "normality" re-establishes itself over time.
I think this assumption is false and the fact that we have/had ISK farming activities like that which provide very little practical benefit in the current state of Dust is a testament of that. I highly doubt this ISK is pent 100% on protostimping
The fact that some go out of their way to generate more and more ISK leads me to believe that they have been doing it to strong-arm the economy into submission on the day it's going live.
This won't happen any more in Dust so some might say "screw it" and burn all the money. Others will just wait for Legion and in the meantime find ways to maintain/increase their buying power in preparation.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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