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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:22:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I don't care a lot, as long as a dev come to the forums and ask for feedback and then put results in the game, there is no need for a CPM.
Between troll posts there is quality feedback and people don't need to be in the CPM to give their.
Hello; remember there are cases of developers who are not very well articulated and if they do bring their rawest of thoughts to the forums without the full context behind it they get blamed as being one of the worst devs even though their intentions were much better than what was presented.
Also there are dozens of bad ideas; that will never see the light of day.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
14533
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:shaman oga wrote:I don't care a lot, as long as a dev come to the forums and ask for feedback and then put results in the game, there is no need for a CPM.
Between troll posts there is quality feedback and people don't need to be in the CPM to give their. Hello; remember there are cases of developers who are not very well articulated and if they do bring their rawest of thoughts to the forums without the full context behind it they get blamed as being one of the worst devs even though their intentions were much better than what was presented. Also there are dozens of bad ideas; that will never see the light of day. Nothing a focus team of experts couldnt do significantly better thatn a handful of randoms :/
If CCP needs randoms to hold their hand and keep them from making a boo boo on the forums, then maybe there's a reason for the state of the game
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3212
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Posted - 2014.07.02 17:41:00 -
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No point anyone who wants run in these things normally does not represent the communty or is just using to promote their own ideas ya know like most polatics
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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CRNWLLC
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
338
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:00:00 -
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I won't vote because:
1. the CPM is an impotent and pretentious "body", with a history of misleading the community and contributing very poor "insights" on various threads--essentially, I don't see the use in pretending to help select CCP's Dust lapdogs; 2. folks that think they are the ones best qualified to change a ****** situation often are the ones that make it worse--it's pretty ostentatious to basically state that one knows better than one's peers what is best for them; 3. "democracy" is a silly way to get things done. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15679
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:shaman oga wrote:I don't care a lot, as long as a dev come to the forums and ask for feedback and then put results in the game, there is no need for a CPM.
Between troll posts there is quality feedback and people don't need to be in the CPM to give their. Hello; remember there are cases of developers who are not very well articulated and if they do bring their rawest of thoughts to the forums without the full context behind it they get blamed as being one of the worst devs even though their intentions were much better than what was presented. Also there are dozens of bad ideas; that will never see the light of day. Nothing a focus team of experts couldnt do significantly better thatn a handful of randoms :/ If CCP needs randoms to hold their hand and keep them from making a boo boo on the forums, then maybe there's a reason for the state of the game
Or that maybe english is not their first language?
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
14534
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:shaman oga wrote:I don't care a lot, as long as a dev come to the forums and ask for feedback and then put results in the game, there is no need for a CPM.
Between troll posts there is quality feedback and people don't need to be in the CPM to give their. Hello; remember there are cases of developers who are not very well articulated and if they do bring their rawest of thoughts to the forums without the full context behind it they get blamed as being one of the worst devs even though their intentions were much better than what was presented. Also there are dozens of bad ideas; that will never see the light of day. Nothing a focus team of experts couldnt do significantly better thatn a handful of randoms :/ If CCP needs randoms to hold their hand and keep them from making a boo boo on the forums, then maybe there's a reason for the state of the game Or that maybe english is not their first language? Not sure what that has to do with randoms holding CCPs hand. Not that hard to tell the non english speaker to go talk with the english speaker first......
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
10131
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:34:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote: I'd like to give you my vote, but you need to get out your dropship and get your boots on the ground for that to happen.
I can vouch for this too.. More often than not when i'm on, judge is on the ground and since he's usually the slowest of the group in his suit, i can keep up with him as my logi.. so i'm usually behind judge supporting and keeping him alive. :)[/quote] As can I.
I remember this one time on the Communications Outpost map, me and Judge held down an entire area with nothing but his SCR, and my ASCR. It was pretty fun too.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15096
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:14:00 -
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Might vote. Might not.
I find it difficult to care.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
2076
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:37:00 -
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There needs to be more News announcements in game and more explaining what an actual CPM does.
Very little people knows what they actually do.. and the hard work that it entails and exactly who dictates that work load.
Also very little non forum or old corporate entities know that a possible election may take place soon.
Is this like a USA election campaign where we discourage minorities to vote? can we get some general education out to the public? Maybe a CCP Video? would take you guys an hour of footage and the art department editing it for you..
Promote your community CCP, it's the best and greatest work you have done here. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1081
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:48:00 -
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all were left with is A-Z hotnerfs and some unnecessary buff to large turret installations. i see no point in having a council for that so i will not be wasting my time at the polls.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
258
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:48:00 -
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you know, I was gonna vote. I think kevall would get some good things done. but I realized that the cpm is a farce...
there are truly passionate dust and new eden fans running, but they are all being used by ccp to mouthpiece for them... it breaks my heart...
CCP really are just good scammers, and manipulators so much so even the cpm canidates have had the wool pulled over their eyes.
some of them have simply become to good of friends with ccp employees and others too obsessed with having video game fame.
CCP upper management realizes this and uses those friendships and desires, and promises and dreams, to squeeze every little bit of coin they can from what could be the most innovative and immersive universe ever created in more caring hands.
the whole situation is just sad and disappointing..... |
Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
919
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Posted - 2014.07.03 03:50:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:if you choose not to vote keep in mind that there will be a CPM 1, whether you vote or not. Some people are voting, so there are going to be seven people that get some votes. If you choose not to vote then you are letting other people choose who those seven people will be. I support the right we all have to boycott the CPM election. No-one should support an institution they feel to be a poor one. But if you do not vote just remember that if the group is made of people you really disagree with, then you missed your chance to contribute to the profile of the CPM. Perhaps though, we can get the CPM1 dissolved if the turn out is so poor that It could be argued that the group is so badly non-representative that it does not serve it's function as a player representative group. Perhaps we should force CCP to tell us what percentage of the players voted, and if its say, only 10% (or 12% - 25% whatever) we can push to have it nullified. Short video on what the CPM isHow does the voting work?Announcement Video
yes, your correct and i acknowledge that, i should have been more specific i suppose with what i meant in regards to the term "nothing". Not no value in the sense of a poorly made system, but in the sense no matter who's voted in i will refuse to acknowledge the groups status as an elected body or its existence for that matter. Had the cpm resigned and they and ccp apologized in the aftermath of what happened and how they handled it i might feel differently.
all that said, after looking through the candidates, your the only name i recognize. despite playing for several months (though im currently not actively playing so i dont know if im even eligible to vote lol) depending on what your views are or what you want to stand for you may have my vote, even if only to ensure iron wolf saber is knocked out of the race and collectively shunned into pariah-dom by the community which is long overdue.
i may not know who any of the other candidates are but id vote for them 100 times before i voted for iron wolf so thanks for a message that indirrectly prompted me to go look them up.
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.03 04:03:00 -
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2820
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:08:00 -
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Everyone should vote. It can, and will, make a difference, if you put the right people into the position. There are some really great candidates out there. And with the size of the DUST community being small as it is, every single vote counts that much more.
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Perhaps though, we can get the CPM1 dissolved if the turn out is so poor that It could be argued that the group is so badly non-representative that it does not serve it's function as a player representative group. Perhaps we should force CCP to tell us what percentage of the players voted, and if its say, only 10% (or 12% - 25% whatever) we can push to have it nullified.
This makes it sound like you want the CPM disbanded. Why are you running again? I believe the voting turnout for the CSM election in EVE is somewhere around 7% of the playerbase. But it's actually fairly representative, and generally agreed upon as an important part of the development process.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3510
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:14:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Not voting, CPM is irrelevant and a waste of CCPs resources and time, all we are really voting for is which social butterflies will get a free trip to iceland.
There is no trip to Iceland.
I flew to Iceland on my own ticket to attend the Rouge wedding.
Candidate for CPM1 Voting begins in 1 week!
They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3510
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:16:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:Much like politics in real life, that someone would actually want the job would be enough to shake my confidence in them.
Except you can't vote yourselves pay raises and the like.
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3510
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:16:00 -
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Haerr wrote:To all who feel like they want to exact some small measure of revenge on CCP; vote for the candidates that are as far away from Iceland as possible! Those plane ticket prices, oh yeah that will show CCP! :P
Same as above.
Candidate for CPM1 Voting begins in 1 week!
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2155
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:17:00 -
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Vote for a CPM for a game with no future? Ha, good joke.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3510
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:18:00 -
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Takahashi Kashuken wrote:A vote for CPM is a vote for CCP anyways
CPM never represented the community and were happy for the rouge wedding to take place except caz
The current list of candidates are full of yes men and nonfactors who i have never heard of or are just terrible at the game and have rarely played PC let alone seen in game
I wish i had 7 dislike votes if anything so i could take away 1 vote from terrible candidates but i feel that i will have to not vote at all because who ever wins the community loses
Frankly i would say that CPM1 cant be any worse than CPM0 but really they wont be any better anyways so expect more of the same
I am not a yes man, and you yourself asserted I am non a nonfactor (although I don't pretend to be one of the best).
Candidate for CPM1 Voting begins in 1 week!
They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3510
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:19:00 -
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Rizlax Yazzax wrote:I don't even vote for who gets to run the country, nevermind who gets CPM.
It's the whole giant douche/turd sandwich principal.
Not that I'm calling any of the candidates such. Don't even know who's running.
So in a nutshell, no.
Nuuuu! You have 2 people from your own damn corp running! One of which is a Director!
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3513
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:22:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Not going to vote because I simply don't care for CPM elections.
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They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3513
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:23:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I don't whats going on so im not going to vote
Take a second and get educated!
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They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3517
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:39:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I'm voting because Cross Atu is running.
That's pretty much it.
Somehow I missed this. QQ
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens Final Resolution.
80
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Posted - 2014.07.06 09:22:00 -
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-Not voting
No real point when in a few years DUST will be... well dust. |
Takahashi Kashuken
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:26:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Takahashi Kashuken wrote:A vote for CPM is a vote for CCP anyways
CPM never represented the community and were happy for the rouge wedding to take place except caz
The current list of candidates are full of yes men and nonfactors who i have never heard of or are just terrible at the game and have rarely played PC let alone seen in game
I wish i had 7 dislike votes if anything so i could take away 1 vote from terrible candidates but i feel that i will have to not vote at all because who ever wins the community loses
Frankly i would say that CPM1 cant be any worse than CPM0 but really they wont be any better anyways so expect more of the same I am not a yes man, and you yourself asserted I am non a nonfactor (although I don't pretend to be one of the best).
Hm my post got deleted, no suprise
At the time of writing you were not on the candidate list and i had no idea if you were still running or just quit dust like a lot did after the rouge wedding |
Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
339
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Posted - 2014.07.06 13:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:shaman oga wrote:I don't care a lot, as long as a dev come to the forums and ask for feedback and then put results in the game, there is no need for a CPM.
Between troll posts there is quality feedback and people don't need to be in the CPM to give their. Hello; remember there are cases of developers who are not very well articulated and if they do bring their rawest of thoughts to the forums without the full context behind it they get blamed as being one of the worst devs even though their intentions were much better than what was presented. Also there are dozens of bad ideas; that will never see the light of day. Nothing a focus team of experts couldnt do significantly better thatn a handful of randoms :/ If CCP needs randoms to hold their hand and keep them from making a boo boo on the forums, then maybe there's a reason for the state of the game Or that maybe english is not their first language?
not an excuse for an international company.... you hire English speakers to convey the English language.... period. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4176
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Posted - 2014.07.06 13:57:00 -
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If I get around to it. I'm not rushing to the polls or anything. My personal involvement with this game has greatly fallen off and will be all but done before CPM1 has taken office.
Even then, I'm not so much voting for 7 people as I am voting against a bunch of assholes. There are a set number of seats on the CPM, but only 3 or 4 truly worthy candidates that aren't there for personal in-game gains. This will be a tumultuous year in Molden Heath, I assure you all.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:07:00 -
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Seriously why does this matter so greatly to you guys? So everyone voting is going to follow Legion on PC? I don't see the point in CPM elections in Dust current state. Do you guys actually see Dust being around in 2015? |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2088
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:13:00 -
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NanoCleric wrote: I can vouch for this too.. More often than not when i'm on, judge is on the ground and since he's usually the slowest of the group in his suit, i can keep up with him as my logi.. so i'm usually behind judge supporting and keeping him alive. :)
My god... NanoCleric on the Forums? What in the world is going on?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
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Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2014.07.06 14:59:00 -
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Not voting, because 11 days, and I'm just a solo pub player, so yeah, kinda screwed regardless who gets in.
what i think of when charging fg
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