So, as we are talking about medium sui redesign for Charlie, the major topic has been the assaults, which I don't disagree with, as they are even more lost in the wilderness than logis are ATM.

But, if you ask me, there's no point to only reworking one branch of the medium frames, it's only asking for more balance problems.

First things first, I think we can all agree that some of the logi suits *coughamarrcough* need a slot rework and probably a buff to CPU and/or PG too, it's insane what I can fit on my Gallente scout compared to my Amarr logi.

Since I know the Amarr logi best, I propose another low (like the assault got), being set up as dual tankers makes zero sense. It also needs more PG.

But, aside from basic suit tweaks like the heavies and scouts already got, lets talk bonuses. A dual bonus system for the Assaults has been proposed and sounds like a good idea to me. So, how do you implement this for the logi suits?
I see 2 options:

1) A second equipment bonus, either:
- A bonus to a second equipment type only that is perhaps 50% of what you get with another suit, so say the Gallente logi would get 1/2 the bonus to rep tools that the minnie gets, and vice versa.

- Or, my choice, a weaker secondary bonus to [b]all[/s] equipment types, perhaps 20-25% of what the primary bonus is. Meaning, at level 5 of an Amarr logi, you would get the equivalent of all 3 other bonuses at level one or two.

2) The second option would be a more defense-oriented bonus, like better base regen or bonuses to reppers or shield energizers. That sort of thing.

Discuss.

So, as we are talking about medium suit redesign for Charlie, the major topic has been the assaults, which I don't disagree with, as they are even more lost in the wilderness than logis are ATM.

But, if you ask me, there's no point to only reworking one branch of the medium frames, it's only asking for more balance problems.

First things first, I think we can all agree that some of the logi suits *coughamarrcough* need a slot rework and probably a buff to CPU and/or PG too, it's insane what I can fit on my Gallente scout compared to my Amarr logi.

Since I know the Amarr logi best, I propose another low (like the assault got), being set up as dual tankers makes zero sense. It also needs more PG.

But, aside from basic suit tweaks like the heavies and scouts already got, lets talk bonuses. A dual bonus system for the Assaults has been proposed and sounds like a good idea to me. So, how do you implement this for the logi suits?
I see 2 options:

1) A second equipment bonus, either:
- A bonus to a second equipment type only that is perhaps 50% of what you get with another suit, so say the Gallente logi would get 1/2 the bonus to rep tools that the minnie gets, and vice versa. (Idea stolen courtesy of pokey dravon)

- Or, my choice, a weaker secondary bonus to all equipment types, perhaps 20-25% of what the primary bonus is. Meaning, at level 5 of an Amarr logi, you would get the equivalent of all 3 other bonuses at level one or two.

2) The second option would be a more survivability-oriented bonus, like better base regen or bonuses to reppers or shield energizers. That sort of thing.

Discuss.

Reduce our damage with weapons by 10-20% while buffing or resistance to damage or give us a racially context sensitive regen, then for the general logistics bonus brings equipment almost up to pre-nerf levels(maintaining the cpu and pg usage reduction), then keep the racial bonuses as is. This will bring the logistics class closer to that of a support role and hopefully reduce the chance of slayer logis rearing their heads again.

I'd like it if Logistics suits had better scan precision, It was fine prior to 1.8, but now scouts have a much lower base scan profile. I would say that it is too low.

zero support for logi buffs

Reason: Yousuckatdust-Vagheitan using a 650 shield 590 armour cal logi with a kaalakiota and 4 rep hives