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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:45:00 -
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what they really mean by that is PS4 and Sony are too limiting
CCP, I thought I was going to start liking you again. I really did. Then you announced this event.
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
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Posted - 2014.07.01 00:48:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however.
I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. That's some nice engrish there. Supposedly the devs did a 64 player battle internally, but there were too many performance issues to try anything large scale openly. I especially wouldn't trust the dumbass players we have with a 64 player battle. With how things go now, it would be 60 dumbasses in one area spamming explosives and the like, then wondering why their framerate dropped to slideshow mode.
I LOL'd for real at this
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:14:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however.
I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. That's some nice engrish there. Supposedly the devs did a 64 player battle internally, but there were too many performance issues to try anything large scale openly. I especially wouldn't trust the dumbass players we have with a 64 player battle. With how things go now, it would be 60 dumbasses in one area spamming explosives and the like, then wondering why their framerate dropped to slideshow mode. I LOL'd for real at this
Except you can do that on PC at 60fps with even more players. Its called Planetside 2...
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:17:00 -
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ew yuck...planetside 2. PS4 owners will be happy with it though,lol, since they don't have much games in the ps4's library. |
Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:19:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:ew yuck...planetside 2. PS4 owners will be happy with it though,lol, since they don't have much games in the ps4's library.
Say what you want, its infinitely more fun than Dust, even with all of its own problems.
I have moved on to Arma 3 though. Dat draw distance. Just the other day a fromer dust-playing buddy and I joined a server, go into an attack chopper and rendered close air support to a group of players trying to take a city whilst being pinned down by infantry and armor. Heres what it was like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-CwGP99QR8
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Espartoi
Orkz Clan
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Posted - 2014.07.01 01:22:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however.
I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. That's some nice engrish there. Supposedly the devs did a 64 player battle internally, but there were too many performance issues to try anything large scale openly. I especially wouldn't trust the dumbass players we have with a 64 player battle. With how things go now, it would be 60 dumbasses in one area spamming explosives and the like, then wondering why their framerate dropped to slideshow mode.
Add dumb people spamming uplinks and nanohives.
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deezy dabest
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
702
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:13:00 -
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CCP is all about putting out bugged stuff and allowing the players to QA.
Doing this with the Sony process of code checking and charging for updates just does not work. Basically CCP is going to PC so they can pump out broken code then scramble to fix it without Sony charging them money and bitching at them for freezing their systems.
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens Final Resolution.
70
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:18:00 -
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shadow drake35 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:It's Hard Mode for hack Devs. They just refuse to admit that they're not good at what they're doing. i know right so i have gone to battlefield 3 and i see you are gonna play the destiny beta cya on there battlefield then
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.01 04:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:shadow drake35 wrote: SO tell me how is it too limiting
It's limiting in the sense that CCP's knowledge on how to code for the PS3 is limited. I'm going to enjoy seeing PC fanboys and CCP apologists attempt to say otherwise. I disagree that it's necessarily their knowledge on "how to code" for the PS3 rather their inherent need to make everything scripted and or dynamic. That causes a lot of CPU bound overhead which is the PS3's bottleneck. Don't get me wrong, I really love that CCP has the ability to hotfix so many things without needing to update, however it causes many efficiency issues.
I also couldn't imagine the embedded Python builds they use are very well optimized for the PS3's processor.
The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.01 04:43:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dust technically only has 2 maps.
Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? Cause they are putting it on the PS4 which would be a selling reason for the console itself. A decent FPS which is free to play and you wont even need a sub for the PSN. Just natural that Sony wants to keep spome pearls as a next gen thing. Cause if you keep releasing content for both systems (PS3+PS4) why should a customer get a new system if the previous one is still getting supported? Its not free to play when you have to pay for the access to PSN monthly/yearly. Only free on PC.
PSN has a free service as does xbox live.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.01 04:46:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote: Except you can do that on PC at 60fps with even more players. Its called Planetside 2...
I remember when PS2 first came out and a GTX 680 had issues keeping 40 FPS with a good CPU. Only took Sony two years to optimize it and even now it runs like crap.
The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
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The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA
The DOT MAFIA
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Posted - 2014.07.01 06:13:00 -
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shadow drake35 wrote:How is the ps3 to limiting for dust cause look at battlefield 3 plays great, big maps, lots of vehicles and everything. MAG was actually FUN lots of players, big maps and looked ok map looked better than dust maps dust is a pile of dust Last of US showed what ps3 can do with graphic SO tell me how is it too limiting
BF3, unlike dust, has bullets flying around that obey simple ballistics.
Played some GT6 today 1080 graphics and maps like Nurburg ring 24 hours and leMan. It even has working netcode that can handle high latency players.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.01 07:49:00 -
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Has nothing to do with the graphics but it has a -lot- to do with the dozens of permutations people have in their fitting lists... Ever wonder why PC guys would restart before a match? Yeah, there's why.
The graphics aren't the problem - graphics were very rarely the problem as they tinkered with them very little since closed beta (reduced explosion effects on the mass driver, effects on the repair tool, engine effects on the dropships) but what IS a problem is trying to do anything with 256mb of memory, including load up all of those suits on the fly.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.02 06:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dust technically only has 2 maps.
Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? Cause they are putting it on the PS4 which would be a selling reason for the console itself. A decent FPS which is free to play and you wont even need a sub for the PSN. Just natural that Sony wants to keep spome pearls as a next gen thing. Cause if you keep releasing content for both systems (PS3+PS4) why should a customer get a new system if the previous one is still getting supported? Its not free to play when you have to pay for the access to PSN monthly/yearly. Only free on PC. PSN has a free service as does xbox live.
you need a subsription to play online with xbox360. dont need one on ps3
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however.
I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. ever played conquest on casbian border sir about same size
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dust technically only has 2 maps.
Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? planetside 2 is to much for ps3 and if your saying thats proof for ps3 limitations you are wrong dust is a fraction compared to planetside and planetside 2 is a free, it just shows what people can do if they put effort and time in what they can do
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:21:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:AWWWW poor widdle console kids think great looking games can be pulled off on consoles.
Fact: PS3 is old. Fact: CCP is notoriously bad at coding Fact: Dust is bad, because see above. my ps4 is better than some pcs bro so you cant talk
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:24:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Dust technically only has 2 maps.
Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? Cause they are putting it on the PS4 which would be a selling reason for the console itself. A decent FPS which is free to play and you wont even need a sub for the PSN. Just natural that Sony wants to keep spome pearls as a next gen thing. Cause if you keep releasing content for both systems (PS3+PS4) why should a customer get a new system if the previous one is still getting supported? Its not free to play when you have to pay for the access to PSN monthly/yearly. Only free on PC. actually you dont need ps plus to play it since its a free game just ps plus people get extra stuff
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:26:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:what they really mean by that is PS4 and Sony are too limiting ps4 is better than alot of peoples pcs
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:27:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Eko Sol wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however.
I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. That's some nice engrish there. Supposedly the devs did a 64 player battle internally, but there were too many performance issues to try anything large scale openly. I especially wouldn't trust the dumbass players we have with a 64 player battle. With how things go now, it would be 60 dumbasses in one area spamming explosives and the like, then wondering why their framerate dropped to slideshow mode. I LOL'd for real at this Except you can do that on PC at 60fps with even more players. Its called Planetside 2... planetside 2 is proven to run 60fps on ps4
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:29:00 -
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Cogadh Draco wrote:shadow drake35 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:It's Hard Mode for hack Devs. They just refuse to admit that they're not good at what they're doing. i know right so i have gone to battlefield 3 and i see you are gonna play the destiny beta cya on there battlefield then Isn't Destiny multiplayer just three vs three? no thats the coop
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
2145
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:45:00 -
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shadow drake35 wrote:OP FOTM wrote:what they really mean by that is PS4 and Sony are too limiting ps4 is better than alot of peoples pcs
If your PC is made with parts from 2011 or earlier. I have mine with parts from early 2012. Graphics card is atleast 2x better than what Xbone can do. Also only cost me 600$, including the 22 in dell monitor.
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
2145
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Posted - 2014.07.02 18:55:00 -
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shadow drake35 wrote:
Except you can do that on PC at 60fps with even more players. Its called Planetside 2...
planetside 2 is proven to run 60fps on ps4 [/quote]
but not in 1080p.
PS2 will not look this good on PS4. Period. http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/504701728540363484/06B4B9C33A0A402EFB12EAC26B793E0D59BB256C/
Also, other things you are missing out on: http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/612791845992479352/D48AA9701C3484E56F5CBC69F0A994E4121CDB57/ http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/612791117524034321/FE8ABEDDCFD52E199F703742710A806B4CDA7B0A/ http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/706238822242212380/DC1B91A9BD8FB8AFB8D06812B88B29C9E98EFA9A/ http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/612793117542578940/65B15E1F3EC2805FC7409F8F375B9767B352BA22/ http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594786952407521168/AE90BC9FA26ACC41C59661F428D901E8838A7127/ http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/612796913562948252/476DD9A6FFBE16C3DF8A0FDC40F318D2B8A3FB30/
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shadow drake35
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.07.08 19:33:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:shadow drake35 wrote:
Except you can do that on PC at 60fps with even more players. Its called Planetside 2...
planetside 2 is proven to run 60fps on ps4
but not in 1080p.
PS2 will not look this good on PS4. Period. http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/504701728540363484/06B4B9C33A0A402EFB12EAC26B793E0D59BB256C/
Also, other things you are missing out on: http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/612791845992479352/D48AA9701C3484E56F5CBC69F0A994E4121CDB57/ http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/612791117524034321/FE8ABEDDCFD52E199F703742710A806B4CDA7B0A/ http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/706238822242212380/DC1B91A9BD8FB8AFB8D06812B88B29C9E98EFA9A/ http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/612793117542578940/65B15E1F3EC2805FC7409F8F375B9767B352BA22/ http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594786952407521168/AE90BC9FA26ACC41C59661F428D901E8838A7127/ http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/612796913562948252/476DD9A6FFBE16C3DF8A0FDC40F318D2B8A3FB30/[/quote] yes it will run 1080p at 60fps http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Planetside-2-PS4-Confirmed-60fps-64827.html http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/69434966 And you dont need plus
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
4518
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Posted - 2014.07.09 18:58:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:ew yuck...planetside 2. PS4 owners will be happy with it though,lol, since they don't have much games in the ps4's library. Say what you want, its infinitely more fun than Dust, even with all of its own problems. I have moved on to Arma 3 though. Dat draw distance. Just the other day a fromer dust-playing buddy and I joined a server, go into an attack chopper and rendered close air support to a group of players trying to take a city whilst being pinned down by infantry and armor. Heres what it was like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-CwGP99QR8 i'm thinking of getting arma when i grab a desktop computer, any advice on it?
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Paran Tadec
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
2158
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Posted - 2014.07.10 06:49:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:ew yuck...planetside 2. PS4 owners will be happy with it though,lol, since they don't have much games in the ps4's library. Say what you want, its infinitely more fun than Dust, even with all of its own problems. I have moved on to Arma 3 though. Dat draw distance. Just the other day a fromer dust-playing buddy and I joined a server, go into an attack chopper and rendered close air support to a group of players trying to take a city whilst being pinned down by infantry and armor. Heres what it was like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-CwGP99QR8 i'm thinking of getting arma when i grab a desktop computer, any advice on it?
get it. tons of great mods, plus backwards compatibility with other arma maps.
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