DUST Search - ps3 too limiting bullcrap

CommanderBolt wrote:

The dark cloud wrote:

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however.

I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway.
Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time.

and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off.

And the game is STILL advertised on PSN and other places as a 2-48 player game. I've brought this up before. That's got to be false advertising right?!

I'm not a Hate-Lord but I do have to be fair and honest about what CCP does. (Or doesn't do in this case, would love a 24v24 player battle)

If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.

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shadow drake35 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 131	Posted - 2014.06.30 13:50:00 - [1] - Quote How is the ps3 to limiting for dust cause look at battlefield 3 plays great, big maps, lots of vehicles and everything. MAG was actually FUN lots of players, big maps and looked ok map looked better than dust maps dust is a pile of dust Last of US showed what ps3 can do with graphic SO tell me how is it too limiting A man with a crazy a** plan
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4091	Posted - 2014.06.30 14:07:00 - [2] - Quote It's Hard Mode for hack Devs. They just refuse to admit that they're not good at what they're doing. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Atiim Fooly Cooly. 10033	Posted - 2014.06.30 14:08:00 - [3] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: SO tell me how is it too limiting It's limiting in the sense that CCP's knowledge on how to code for the PS3 is limited. I'm going to enjoy seeing PC fanboys and CCP apologists attempt to say otherwise. Taking Care of The Pilot Infestation in North American Skirmish -HAND
shadow drake35 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 131	Posted - 2014.06.30 14:09:00 - [4] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: It's Hard Mode for hack Devs. They just refuse to admit that they're not good at what they're doing. i know right so i have gone to battlefield 3 and i see you are gonna play the destiny beta cya on there battlefield then A man with a crazy a** plan
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5524	Posted - 2014.06.30 15:19:00 - [5] - Quote It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however. I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3362	Posted - 2014.06.30 15:28:00 - [6] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however. I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 193	Posted - 2014.06.30 15:37:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: SO tell me how is it too limiting It's limiting in the sense that CCP's knowledge on how to code for the PS3 is limited. I'm going to enjoy seeing PC fanboys and CCP apologists attempt to say otherwise. This is what most people ignore or refuse to believe. Look, I'll admit that i could be considered a fan of CCP. I have an 8 year old main in EVE. Dust is the first FPS i've invested ANY time into. It's very apparent that CCP can't fix Dust on the PS3. They might have been pull it off on PS4 because coding is similar to a PC, but 'similar' isn't the same as 'exact'. It really makes sense, if they're going to try and fix this at all, for the to code on PC first. It's the only thing the even kind of know how to code for.
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5524	Posted - 2014.06.30 15:44:00 - [8] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however. I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. That's some nice engrish there. Supposedly the devs did a 64 player battle internally, but there were too many performance issues to try anything large scale openly. I especially wouldn't trust the dumbass players we have with a 64 player battle. With how things go now, it would be 60 dumbasses in one area spamming explosives and the like, then wondering why their framerate dropped to slideshow mode. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3727	Posted - 2014.06.30 15:49:00 - [9] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however. I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. Actually, some old patch notes stated that maps are now unlocked for 24v24, we have yet to see it actually implemented. I will spam your face with aurum proto.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 427	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:55:00 - [10] - Quote I'll wait for ps4 version. 5 more years right? They might port it to pc, who knows. This game is still being supported. Ps3 life span is like 7 more years, I believe.

Schecter 666 Minmatar Republic 82	Posted - 2014.06.30 17:56:00 - [11] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: How is the ps3 to limiting for dust cause look at battlefield 3 plays great, big maps, lots of vehicles and everything. MAG was actually FUN lots of players, big maps and looked ok map looked better than dust maps dust is a pile of dust Last of US showed what ps3 can do with graphic SO tell me how is it too limiting the devs skill is limited, not the PS3, look at God of War 3 and tell me this is a system with limits! i'll be on the PS4 soon, so will destiny, so will planetside 2, I don't see DUST being released for it at any time soon.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1226	Posted - 2014.06.30 18:18:00 - [12] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however. I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. And the game is STILL advertised on PSN and other places as a 2-48 player game. I've brought this up before. That's got to be false advertising right?! I'm not a Hate-Lord but I do have to be fair and honest about what CCP does. (Or doesn't do in this case, would love a 24v24 player battle) Investigate 9/11
Jin Foxdale Jedi Slime. 199	Posted - 2014.06.30 18:32:00 - [13] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's completely true that the PS3 is too limiting for their vision of the game: they never stated that they hit the PS3's limit, however. I believe the size of a warzone (an ENTIRE map- beyond the redline) in Dust was estimated to be 24 times larger than your average BF3 map, which isn't much larger than a Dust map anyway. Beta players could zoom the map out to see this entire area, if you don't believe me on the size, fly to the flight ceiling in a dropship and look around. The map is so ******* huge that you can only see 1 or 2 edges of it at a time. and still we never went above 16vs16 matches even in the beta. The devs didnt even tried to pull it off. And the game is STILL advertised on PSN and other places as a 2-48 player game. I've brought this up before. That's got to be false advertising right?! I'm not a Hate-Lord but I do have to be fair and honest about what CCP does. (Or doesn't do in this case, would love a 24v24 player battle) As happy as I'd be with 24v24, I'd be happier with the option for 1v1, or 4v4. If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15664	Posted - 2014.06.30 19:34:00 - [14] - Quote Dust technically only has 2 maps. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1864	Posted - 2014.06.30 19:56:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dust technically only has 2 maps. Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? Big gap between 128v128 and "thousands v thousands v thousands". Also, coding for the two systems is completely different from what I understand. Either way the ps3's limit cannot pull off the vision CCP has of Dust. On the flip side, given CCP's difficulty with coding on it, it has been able to pull off what CCP is capable of doing with it currently. This game is NOT that far off from being a really great game. Some minor tweaks, additions of missing weapons and vehicles, a few more rounds of balancing tweaks and terrain bugfixes.... after that CCP would have a great game that they could just occasionally drop new maps or game modes into and steadily work on tweaking PC/adding in new SP sinks and get Corp Battles put back in. Better question:how much ass do I have to kiss to get old school Manus Peak back in the rotation? Even just with the redline and MCC/spawn base adjusted to how it used to be? Pretty much every Codex and older vet has been asking for it for over a year. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 480	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:01:00 - [16] - Quote you just want to be on the peak with a Thale's don't you?
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3075	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:05:00 - [17] - Quote Makes you wonder about tranquility connectivity, the eve-connected voice system, and the modules/equipment combinations and how much performance impact that actually has on the game. Something tells me if they removed the voice system from the game entirely, this story would have been much different.
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1864	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:06:00 - [18] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: you just want to be on the peak with a Thale's don't you? I have had sniper rifles sitting at Op 3 since Uprising 1.0. I use an NT-511, and the only time I snipe is to counter-snipe. I'm the Winmatar Assault hosing your ear-holes out with my 100 round SMG and 85 round ACR clips from 5 feet away. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2142	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:09:00 - [19] - Quote AWWWW poor widdle console kids think great looking games can be pulled off on consoles. Fact: PS3 is old. Fact: CCP is notoriously bad at coding Fact: Dust is bad, because see above. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2189	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:15:00 - [20] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: AWWWW poor widdle console kids think great looking games can be pulled off on consoles. Fact: PS3 is old. Fact: CCP is notoriously bad at coding Fact: Dust is bad, because see above. A few years back, the PS3 wasn't all that old. (see "planned obsolescence") K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3368	Posted - 2014.06.30 21:01:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dust technically only has 2 maps. Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? Cause they are putting it on the PS4 which would be a selling reason for the console itself. A decent FPS which is free to play and you wont even need a sub for the PSN. Just natural that Sony wants to keep spome pearls as a next gen thing. Cause if you keep releasing content for both systems (PS3+PS4) why should a customer get a new system if the previous one is still getting supported?
The Eristic Dust 90210 504	Posted - 2014.06.30 21:25:00 - [22] - Quote Don't know why they don't tell Scotty to try fill up 24v24 for certain maps/modes, at least. Would make the larger maps much, much more fun, especially Spine Crescent Skirmish, and would think it only a major problem on Gallente Lag Facility. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 849	Posted - 2014.06.30 21:33:00 - [23] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: you just want to be on the peak with a Thale's don't you? Proto weapons in the sniper category only have 20 hp more than a standard rifle. That's 4 dps difference compared to 40 for the pray N spray weapons... Or is that the officer variant? I never really use Proto snipers so I forget the names all the time. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2143	Posted - 2014.06.30 23:48:00 - [24] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: AWWWW poor widdle console kids think great looking games can be pulled off on consoles. Fact: PS3 is old. Fact: CCP is notoriously bad at coding Fact: Dust is bad, because see above. A few years back, the PS3 wasn't all that old. (see "planned obsolescence") This isnt a few years ago, this is today. Also, what platform CONSISTENTLY is able to keep up Thats right, PC. You either upgrade the parts for 50-100$ every 2 years or you turn the graphics down (still better graphics than console) Whats that? A bug has been detected? Let me push that patch out now, not in a month after Sony QA. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2143	Posted - 2014.06.30 23:49:00 - [25] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Dust technically only has 2 maps. Also why isn't SOE trying to put planetside 2 on the ps3? Cause they are putting it on the PS4 which would be a selling reason for the console itself. A decent FPS which is free to play and you wont even need a sub for the PSN. Just natural that Sony wants to keep spome pearls as a next gen thing. Cause if you keep releasing content for both systems (PS3+PS4) why should a customer get a new system if the previous one is still getting supported? Its not free to play when you have to pay for the access to PSN monthly/yearly. Only free on PC. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2143	Posted - 2014.06.30 23:49:00 - [26] - Quote The Eristic wrote: Don't know why they don't tell Scotty to try fill up 24v24 for certain maps/modes, at least. Would make the larger maps much, much more fun, especially Spine Crescent Skirmish, and would think it only a major problem on Gallente Lag Facility. Because your PS3 would melt. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2014.06.30 23:51:00 - [27] - Quote Logic and common sense states that EA/DICE has had considerable time with the PS3, learning how to use the hardware. For CCP, this is their first time on a console. That's not mentioning the fact that PS3's architecture makes it difficult to develop on.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 912	Posted - 2014.07.01 00:27:00 - [28] - Quote The only thing that limited dust is CCP shanghai because they weren't experienced with the ps3 like western devs such as Duce who have been working with ps3s since launch. Compare this game to 2005-2007 ps3 titles, because that's where CCP is. thats why they should have made the game in CCP Atlanta and never started the wod nonsense. They would have had resources and easier access to experienced devs. Going to china for console devs when theyve had a console ban for more than a decade is like going to the top of a mountain to build a boat. It was just a bad idea and anyone who says otherwise is either lying to themselves or ignorant. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 912	Posted - 2014.07.01 00:29:00 - [29] - Quote Dice not Duce, editing via iPhone is a pain so im correcting it here lol. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2198	Posted - 2014.07.01 00:42:00 - [30] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: The Eristic wrote: Don't know why they don't tell Scotty to try fill up 24v24 for certain maps/modes, at least. Would make the larger maps much, much more fun, especially Spine Crescent Skirmish, and would think it only a major problem on Gallente Lag Facility. Because your PS3 would melt. It would serve that sorry old PS3 right. Big ol' meanie console. Fooey. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Seriously. Think about it.



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