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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.07.04 12:50:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No.
Let's look at EvE
Gallante
Armour Rep Tankers
Amarr
Armour Buffer Tankers
Caldari
Shield Buffer Tankers
Minmatar
Shield Rep Tankers
Currently gallante can achieve the highest EHP on suits. Because the base armour is too good.
Personally I say reduce the gallante suit EHP amd increase the passive repair even further. That would be Amarr. Only on the Scout suits 
Same slots as Gallente plus a higher overall base ehp. Not sure about the heavy.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:No because it allows for Repair Tanking to be viable, which is a refreshing change from the excessive eHP stacking mentality that's plagued this game for a while. Not to mention that most (if not all) weapons in the game at every tier have the ability to out-DPS them.
Ever hear of the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
On a more related note, I'd be in favor of giving every dropsuit 1HP/s and simply increasing the native repair on Gallente Frames by 1HP/s to ensure that they keep their advantage.
I like Gallente suits having fast repair, but built-in repair just allows for the fitting of more armor plates, like with the gal scout.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:36:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Atiim wrote:No because it allows for Repair Tanking to be viable, which is a refreshing change from the excessive eHP stacking mentality that's plagued this game for a while. Not to mention that most (if not all) weapons in the game at every tier have the ability to out-DPS them.
Ever hear of the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
On a more related note, I'd be in favor of giving every dropsuit 1HP/s and simply increasing the native repair on Gallente Frames by 1HP/s to ensure that they keep their advantage.
I like Gallente suits having fast repair, but built-in repair just allows for the fitting of more armor plates, like with the gal scout.
So up the fitting cost of plates.
Make it so that you struggle to fit copius amounts of plating to gallante.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:47:00 -
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Bonus to module efficacy would solve so many of these issues.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.04 15:59:00 -
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The difference is that the Minmatar use armor as their secondary tank.
Gallente use armor is their main tank.
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Texs Red
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:01:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:
I like Gallente suits having fast repair, but built-in repair just allows for the fitting of more armor plates, like with the gal scout.
That is more of a problem of current game meta than the suits fault. It would be like giving the Amarr more base armor and me saying "well the extra armor just allows for the fitting of more reps".
My opinion: Instead of altering slot layouts, why not give the Amarr more armor than the Gallente equal to a basic plate.
Also don't start handing out free reps to everybody, that is what the Gallente are supposed to be about (armor self reps). You Minmatar fellows can go take a hike because while you do dual tank your original calling actually should be regenerative shield tanking so you should be hating on the Caldari for having the best of both buffer and regen tanking, not trying to jump in on a feature that is obviously Gallente.
Amarr are buffer tankers and should therefore have superior base armor (significantly). The Caldari already have superior shield regen over the Gallente and they are shield tankers so they have no right to have innate armor reps (they should have the highest amount of shields). Then the Minmatar are shield regen so pull back the Caldari regen a bit, jack up the Minmatar's regen, and giving the Caldari a slight boost to base shields.
Minmatar want to argue? Name a Minmatar ship in EVE that has a bonus to self armor reps. Then list all the ones that give bonuses to shield boosters and see the difference.
Let me do it for you:
Shield booster/remote booster: 10 (Including logi cruiser)
Armor repair/remote repair: 2 (Both carriers and both remote repairs, not self)
So maybe if there ever was a logi HAV it could do armor and shield remote reps for you but other than that you don't get bonuses to self armor reps.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:02:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:No.
Let's look at EvE
Gallante
Armour Rep Tankers
Amarr
Armour Buffer Tankers
Caldari
Shield Buffer Tankers
Minmatar
Shield Rep Tankers
Currently gallante can achieve the highest EHP on suits. Because the base armour is too good.
Personally I say reduce the gallante suit EHP amd increase the passive repair even further.
So basically, you want to force me to plate up?
Because right now, I have 411 armor and 200 shields.
Considering I don't have the speed advantage of Minmatar, and I'm fighting in CQC (Gallente weaponry), that's tiny.
I will be forced to plate the **** out of my assault.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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10634
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:12:00 -
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If Amarr Assault had 2/5 and Gallente Assault had 3/4, then Amarr Assault would be better at both repairing and tanking.
It's the truth, when it comes to armor, ONE SLOT makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.
140HP per plate, 9.35hp/s per repairer, one slot gives you that.
So no, that's a terrible idea, either they both have 2/5 or neither.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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10634
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Atiim wrote:No because it allows for Repair Tanking to be viable, which is a refreshing change from the excessive eHP stacking mentality that's plagued this game for a while. Not to mention that most (if not all) weapons in the game at every tier have the ability to out-DPS them.
Ever hear of the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
On a more related note, I'd be in favor of giving every dropsuit 1HP/s and simply increasing the native repair on Gallente Frames by 1HP/s to ensure that they keep their advantage.
I like Gallente suits having fast repair, but built-in repair just allows for the fitting of more armor plates, like with the gal scout.
Yes because 2hp/s means I will fit more armor plates, right?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10634
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:17:00 -
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Give Amarr bonuses to plates, give Gallente bonuses to repairers.
It's really that simple.
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
350
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Posted - 2014.07.04 16:52:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Give Amarr bonuses to plates, give Gallente bonuses to repairers.
It's really that simple.
Then you would have to give the Caldari bonuses to extenders and the Minmatar a bonus to regulators.
If we say that the bonus is 5% per level (25% maxed) lets see what a fit might look like for each:
Gallente assault: 3H/4L
C. Extender x3 (because damage mods aren't good enough) +217 shields
C. Armor Plate x2 +297 armor
C. Armor Rep x2 +23.44 armor reps
Total: 367 shields, 559 armor, and 25.44 reps
Amarr assault: 3H/4L
C. Extender x3: +217 shields
C. Armor Plate x4: +743 armor
Total: 436 shields and 1,043 armor
Caldari assault: 4H/3L
C. Extender x4: +363 shields
C. Regulator x1: 35% reduce delay
C. Reactive Plate x2: +132 armor, +4 reps
Total: 626 shields, 3.25 delay, 5.1 depleted, 30 rate, 282 armor, 4 armor reps
Minmatar assault: 5H/2L
C. Extender x3: +218 shields
C. Energizer x2:
C. Regulator x1:
C. CPU x1
Total: Shields 384 shields, 3.9 delay, 6.4 depleted, 87 rate, 167 armor
Although I think the Caldari and Minmatar should switch base shield recharge stats. So Minmatar has a base 30 recharge with a 5 delay, and 6 depleted while the Caldari have 25 recharge with 6 delay and 8 depleted.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Atiim wrote:No because it allows for Repair Tanking to be viable, which is a refreshing change from the excessive eHP stacking mentality that's plagued this game for a while. Not to mention that most (if not all) weapons in the game at every tier have the ability to out-DPS them.
Ever hear of the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
On a more related note, I'd be in favor of giving every dropsuit 1HP/s and simply increasing the native repair on Gallente Frames by 1HP/s to ensure that they keep their advantage.
I like Gallente suits having fast repair, but built-in repair just allows for the fitting of more armor plates, like with the gal scout. Yes because 2hp/s means I will fit more armor plates, right?
2hp/s, as we've seen in action, means that you don't need to fit any reps at all and just fill the lows with plates.
I'm not saying this could happen, I'm saying it IS happening, and a solution is necessary.
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
1997
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:51:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Amarr bonuses to plates, give Gallente bonuses to repairers.
It's really that simple. Then you would have to give the Caldari bonuses to extenders and the Minmatar a bonus to regulators. If we say that the bonus is 5% per level (25% maxed) lets see what a fit might look like for each: Gallente assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3 (because damage mods aren't good enough) +217 shields C. Armor Plate x2 +297 armor C. Armor Rep x2 +23.44 armor reps Total: 367 shields, 559 armor, and 25.44 reps Amarr assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3: +217 shields C. Armor Plate x4: +743 armor Total: 436 shields and 1,043 armor Caldari assault: 4H/3L C. Extender x4: +363 shields C. Regulator x1: 35% reduce delay C. Reactive Plate x2: +132 armor, +4 reps Total: 626 shields, 3.25 delay, 5.1 depleted, 30 rate, 282 armor, 4 armor reps Minmatar assault: 5H/2L C. Extender x3: +218 shields C. Energizer x2: C. Regulator x1: C. CPU x1 Total: Shields 384 shields, 3.9 delay, 6.4 depleted, 87 rate, 167 armor Although I think the Caldari and Minmatar should switch base shield recharge stats. So Minmatar has a base 30 recharge with a 5 delay, and 6 depleted while the Caldari have 25 recharge with 6 delay and 8 depleted. Thoughts?
Let caldari keep their delays.
IMO caldari should be about near constant, but slower shield recharge, while minmatar is about delayed, but higher shield regen.
Only swap shield recharge.
Also: let's make the Amarr's innate racial bonus be more than a simple 30HP, say, make yhe scout have 75HP more, and give it a 1/5 slot layout.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Atiim wrote:No because it allows for Repair Tanking to be viable, which is a refreshing change from the excessive eHP stacking mentality that's plagued this game for a while. Not to mention that most (if not all) weapons in the game at every tier have the ability to out-DPS them.
Ever hear of the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
On a more related note, I'd be in favor of giving every dropsuit 1HP/s and simply increasing the native repair on Gallente Frames by 1HP/s to ensure that they keep their advantage.
I like Gallente suits having fast repair, but built-in repair just allows for the fitting of more armor plates, like with the gal scout. Yes because 2hp/s means I will fit more armor plates, right? 2hp/s, as we've seen in action, means that you don't need to fit any reps at all and just fill the lows with plates. I'm not saying this could happen, I'm saying it IS happening, and a solution is necessary.
As a SCOUT.
Scouts aren't in constant danger, they can cloak up and GTFO, get to a supply depot, switch suit, come back and wreak havoc.
Or carry around Allotek Hives, it's not like they're lacking the CPU/PG or equipment slots.
Assaults, Logistics, Heavies, they're all at the frontlines and need to repair their armor ASAP or else they're useless.
My Assault suit would require 4 minutes to regenerate it's armor at 2hp/s.
That's 1/4th of the match spent on sitting somewhere, regenerating.
If I fit more plates (because that 4 minutes mark is with two complex ferro), then that number bumps up to 6+ minutes.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10642
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:55:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Amarr bonuses to plates, give Gallente bonuses to repairers.
It's really that simple. Then you would have to give the Caldari bonuses to extenders and the Minmatar a bonus to regulators. If we say that the bonus is 5% per level (25% maxed) lets see what a fit might look like for each: Gallente assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3 (because damage mods aren't good enough) +217 shields C. Armor Plate x2 +297 armor C. Armor Rep x2 +23.44 armor reps Total: 367 shields, 559 armor, and 25.44 reps Amarr assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3: +217 shields C. Armor Plate x4: +743 armor Total: 436 shields and 1,043 armor Caldari assault: 4H/3L C. Extender x4: +363 shields C. Regulator x1: 35% reduce delay C. Reactive Plate x2: +132 armor, +4 reps Total: 626 shields, 3.25 delay, 5.1 depleted, 30 rate, 282 armor, 4 armor reps Minmatar assault: 5H/2L C. Extender x3: +218 shields C. Energizer x2: C. Regulator x1: C. CPU x1 Total: Shields 384 shields, 3.9 delay, 6.4 depleted, 87 rate, 167 armor Although I think the Caldari and Minmatar should switch base shield recharge stats. So Minmatar has a base 30 recharge with a 5 delay, and 6 depleted while the Caldari have 25 recharge with 6 delay and 8 depleted. Thoughts?
Those aren't realistic fits ya know.
I'm pretty sure the Gallente Assault doesn't even have enough CPU/PG for that. (When combined with weapons, grenades and equipment)
Same for Caldari Assault.
Also, the Amarr Assault would have AT LEAST one rep to sustain itself, can't rely on logistics.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:57:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Texs Red wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Amarr bonuses to plates, give Gallente bonuses to repairers.
It's really that simple. Then you would have to give the Caldari bonuses to extenders and the Minmatar a bonus to regulators. If we say that the bonus is 5% per level (25% maxed) lets see what a fit might look like for each: Gallente assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3 (because damage mods aren't good enough) +217 shields C. Armor Plate x2 +297 armor C. Armor Rep x2 +23.44 armor reps Total: 367 shields, 559 armor, and 25.44 reps Amarr assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3: +217 shields C. Armor Plate x4: +743 armor Total: 436 shields and 1,043 armor Caldari assault: 4H/3L C. Extender x4: +363 shields C. Regulator x1: 35% reduce delay C. Reactive Plate x2: +132 armor, +4 reps Total: 626 shields, 3.25 delay, 5.1 depleted, 30 rate, 282 armor, 4 armor reps Minmatar assault: 5H/2L C. Extender x3: +218 shields C. Energizer x2: C. Regulator x1: C. CPU x1 Total: Shields 384 shields, 3.9 delay, 6.4 depleted, 87 rate, 167 armor Although I think the Caldari and Minmatar should switch base shield recharge stats. So Minmatar has a base 30 recharge with a 5 delay, and 6 depleted while the Caldari have 25 recharge with 6 delay and 8 depleted. Thoughts? Let caldari keep their delays. IMO caldari should be about near constant, but slower shield recharge, while minmatar is about delayed, but higher shield regen. Only swap shield recharge. Also: let's make the Amarr's innate racial bonus be more than a simple 30HP, say, make yhe scout have 75HP more, and give it a 1/5 slot layout.
Caldari and Minmatar:
Caldari focus on lange range fighting, Minmatar are aggressive urban fighters.
It makes sense to have lower delays on Minmatar than Caldari, but slower recharge.
As far as the Amarr, you're asking for bricked scouts, you know that right?
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
1997
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:32:00 -
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Not all would brick.
Besides, that kinda is the point of Amarr Scout.
Light assault scout.
Albeit i'm not an Amarr Scout, just a firm believer of the whole EVE side's slot layout philosophies:
Amarr has more focus on lows, very little need for highs
Gallente: the Ewar armor tanker, near equal slot layout, but more biased towards Lows.
Minmatar: the speed/damage tanker, they have a near balanced slot layout, slightly leaning towards highslots or perfectly balanced.
Caldari: the pure shield tanker, they rely on resistances and scanning. Heavily leans towards high slots.
Caldari having a high amount of shields, they need to be able to begin thei regens asap, as such utilize low timers in favor of higher rates.
The minmatar are almoat strictly hit an run, it can take up to 10 seconds to round a building, even consdering minmatar's speed, as such, delays aren't much of a priority, but regenerating as much as possible in those few ticks is important.
That's just how i saw it, if the majority believe Minmatar need the delays, in favor of having rate, then fine by me.
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
1997
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:35:00 -
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Also, think of the fits you could make:
2 ferroscales
1 armor rep
2 kincats
You now have a super sprint, but still decently tanked Amarr Scout
3 ferroscales
1damp
1 armor rep
This fit focuses on not being scanned by Pro Scans, and focuses on being more survivable.
3 reps
1 kincat
1 ferroscale
This fit is a Amarr attempting to do the Gallente, but slower.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:35:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Not all would brick.
Besides, that kinda is the point of Amarr Scout.
Light assault scout.
Albeit i'm not an Amarr Scout, just a firm believer of the whole EVE side's slot layout philosophies:
Amarr has more focus on lows, very little need for highs
Gallente: the Ewar armor tanker, near equal slot layout, but more biased towards Lows.
Minmatar: the speed/damage tanker, they have a near balanced slot layout, slightly leaning towards highslots or perfectly balanced.
Caldari: the pure shield tanker, they rely on resistances and scanning. Heavily leans towards high slots.
Caldari having a high amount of shields, they need to be able to begin thei regens asap, as such utilize low timers in favor of higher rates.
The minmatar are almoat strictly hit an run, it can take up to 10 seconds to round a building, even consdering minmatar's speed, as such, delays aren't much of a priority, but regenerating as much as possible in those few ticks is important.
That's just how i saw it, if the majority believe Minmatar need the delays, in favor of having rate, then fine by me.
Gallente are also speedy, though they use bursts of speed rather than constant speed like the Minmatar.
MWD to get cloes to the enemy, then blast them with the most powerful short range weaponry.
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Vordred Knight
WarRavens
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No.
Let's look at EvE
Gallante
Armour Rep Tankers
Amarr
Armour Buffer Tankers
Caldari
Shield Buffer Tankers
Minmatar
Shield Rep Tankers
Currently gallante can achieve the highest EHP on suits. Because the base armour is too good.
Personally I say reduce the gallante suit EHP amd increase the passive repair even further. Purely dual tanked Caldari gets the highest EHP actually Not when in comes to Logis, Sentinels and Scouts. The amarr scout can out ehp the gal scout by roughly 100 or 200 ehp as the amarr scout is the only one that can achieve 1000ehp + the gal can get 900 ehp and the dual tanked cal 800 ehp if i remember correctly Yes the amarr scout can, and that is fine, forgot about him. However the Gallante Sentinel can reach 1900, while the amarr can achieve only 1800, this needs to be swapped around. not really the gallente heavy can reach 1810.35 but the amarr can only reach 1790.7 the difference is only 19.65 but i agree they should be swapped
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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:25:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Amarr bonuses to plates, give Gallente bonuses to repairers.
It's really that simple. Then you would have to give the Caldari bonuses to extenders and the Minmatar a bonus to regulators. If we say that the bonus is 5% per level (25% maxed) lets see what a fit might look like for each: Gallente assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3 (because damage mods aren't good enough) +217 shields C. Armor Plate x2 +297 armor C. Armor Rep x2 +23.44 armor reps Total: 367 shields, 559 armor, and 25.44 reps Amarr assault: 3H/4L C. Extender x3: +217 shields C. Armor Plate x4: +743 armor Total: 436 shields and 1,043 armor Caldari assault: 4H/3L C. Extender x4: +363 shields C. Regulator x1: 35% reduce delay C. Reactive Plate x2: +132 armor, +4 reps Total: 626 shields, 3.25 delay, 5.1 depleted, 30 rate, 282 armor, 4 armor reps Minmatar assault: 5H/2L C. Extender x3: +218 shields C. Energizer x2: C. Regulator x1: C. CPU x1 Total: Shields 384 shields, 3.9 delay, 6.4 depleted, 87 rate, 167 armor Although I think the Caldari and Minmatar should switch base shield recharge stats. So Minmatar has a base 30 recharge with a 5 delay, and 6 depleted while the Caldari have 25 recharge with 6 delay and 8 depleted. Thoughts?
Absolutely perfect, though give Minmatar a fitting boost so they can fit a reactive plate.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:35:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No.
Let's look at EvE
Gallante
Armour Rep Tankers
Amarr
Armour Buffer Tankers
Caldari
Shield Buffer Tankers
Minmatar
Shield Rep Tankers
Currently gallante can achieve the highest EHP on suits. Because the base armour is too good.
Personally I say reduce the gallante suit EHP amd increase the passive repair even further. Purely dual tanked Caldari gets the highest EHP actually Not when in comes to Logis, Sentinels and Scouts. The amarr scout can out ehp the gal scout by roughly 100 or 200 ehp as the amarr scout is the only one that can achieve 1000ehp + the gal can get 900 ehp and the dual tanked cal 800 ehp if i remember correctly Yes the amarr scout can, and that is fine, forgot about him. However the Gallante Sentinel can reach 1900, while the amarr can achieve only 1800, this needs to be swapped around.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:46:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Not all would brick.
Besides, that kinda is the point of Amarr Scout.
Light assault scout.
Albeit i'm not an Amarr Scout, just a firm believer of the whole EVE side's slot layout philosophies:
Amarr has more focus on lows, very little need for highs
Gallente: the Ewar armor tanker, near equal slot layout, but more biased towards Lows.
Minmatar: the speed/damage tanker, they have a near balanced slot layout, slightly leaning towards highslots or perfectly balanced.
Caldari: the pure shield tanker, they rely on resistances and scanning. Heavily leans towards high slots.
Caldari having a high amount of shields, they need to be able to begin thei regens asap, as such utilize low timers in favor of higher rates.
The minmatar are almoat strictly hit an run, it can take up to 10 seconds to round a building, even consdering minmatar's speed, as such, delays aren't much of a priority, but regenerating as much as possible in those few ticks is important.
That's just how i saw it, if the majority believe Minmatar need the delays, in favor of having rate, then fine by me. Gallente are also speedy, though they use bursts of speed rather than constant speed like the Minmatar. MWD to get cloes to the enemy, then blast them with the most powerful short range weaponry.
No the minmatar has the lowest EHP, gimping there delay just makes them the bad suit.
Give the caldari longer delays, because they have a higher buffer.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:32:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Not all would brick.
Besides, that kinda is the point of Amarr Scout.
Light assault scout.
Albeit i'm not an Amarr Scout, just a firm believer of the whole EVE side's slot layout philosophies:
Amarr has more focus on lows, very little need for highs
Gallente: the Ewar armor tanker, near equal slot layout, but more biased towards Lows.
Minmatar: the speed/damage tanker, they have a near balanced slot layout, slightly leaning towards highslots or perfectly balanced.
Caldari: the pure shield tanker, they rely on resistances and scanning. Heavily leans towards high slots.
Caldari having a high amount of shields, they need to be able to begin thei regens asap, as such utilize low timers in favor of higher rates.
The minmatar are almoat strictly hit an run, it can take up to 10 seconds to round a building, even consdering minmatar's speed, as such, delays aren't much of a priority, but regenerating as much as possible in those few ticks is important.
That's just how i saw it, if the majority believe Minmatar need the delays, in favor of having rate, then fine by me. Gallente are also speedy, though they use bursts of speed rather than constant speed like the Minmatar. MWD to get cloes to the enemy, then blast them with the most powerful short range weaponry. No the minmatar has the lowest EHP, gimping there delay just makes them the bad suit. Give the caldari longer delays, because they have a higher buffer.
That's what I said :|
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