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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:05:00 -
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while your considering buffing assault leave my amar assault out of it unless you want to make it op
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:07:00 -
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Agreed. The Amarr assault is an excellent example of an assault suit in a good place. Further buffs would make it overly strong now.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2634
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:11:00 -
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Trying different fits with the caldari right now.. Dies to quick and can't kill anything in time. So far anyways.
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Agreed. The Amarr assault is an excellent example of an assault suit in a good place. Further buffs would make it overly strong now. yeah i figured as amarrians we should step up and make sure that our assault doesnt get ****** with.
rattati is on point with what he does to dust..he wants to buff assaults over nerfing heavies..and i just felt it was a point that needed pointing out to save us from an op moment and an over nerf |
Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Trying different fits with the caldari right now.. Dies to quick and can't kill anything in time. So far anyways. yeah i dunno about the other assaults but the amar gets a perfect bonus and def is ina good place.
i would agree with buffing assault over nerfing heavies anyday..but i feel the amar assault does not need it..even if the others do |
Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad.
3432
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:17:00 -
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Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10515
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:19:00 -
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Bleh, would still go for the scout over the assault.
I'm sorry but compared to the assault, the scout has more speed, complete EWAR dominance, smaller hitbox, more equipment, faster regeneration, for a fraction more HP that disappears faster than you can say Grenade.
Or at the other end of the scale you can have +1200HP with an 800DPS doom machine.
Pick one, they both do what the assault does, but better.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2635
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:20:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass.
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:20:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. i agree what makes the amar assault is all our weapon perform better on our assault than everything else..with the exception being the ascr like you just pointed out ..
i can def agree with giving the ascr a real heat cost |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10515
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:21:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate.
Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:22:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. and it really does..all raising the heat cost would do..is make it better on the amar assault than on other suits..it wouldnt make it viable..ascr is incredibly pointless... |
Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
1687
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:22:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. this is true i can vouch for it..but again i still think its a useless weapom |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10515
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:25:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. this is true i can vouch for it..but again i still think its a useless weapom It's a great gun. It has the range of the ARR, 72 clip magazine, more damage per shot (which combined with the higher clip size, means massive damage per clip), quickest reload, tight hipfire.
I'm sorry but this weapon is amazing.
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad.
3434
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. I enjoy it, but I'm use to the AR so take that with a grain of salt I suppose.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10515
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:26:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it. Then you obviously have no idea what potential your gun has, look above.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it. Then you obviously have no idea what potential your gun has, look above. yah i gotta side with the Chinese food on this one..been using it since day one and still didnt realize it has no real kick |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2635
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it. Then you obviously have no idea what potential your gun has, look above. Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10515
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:29:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote: Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake?
I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact.
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact. doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type |
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10515
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:34:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact. doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type Nope, you're just using it wrong. It's that simple.
Stop looking at the DPS alone and thinking it's bad.
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Mortedeamor
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact. doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type Nope, you're just using it wrong. It's that simple. Stop looking at the DPS alone and thinking it's bad. im notta stat number person...i think its ****** because i dont like it and i have never seen anyone do as well as they can with the other racial variants..the day i see someone stomping with the ascr ill believe it..personally though i cannot test its viability my eye condition prevents me from be able to use weapons that have such visual distortion |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10516
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:39:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact. doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type Nope, you're just using it wrong. It's that simple. Stop looking at the DPS alone and thinking it's bad. im notta stat number person...i think its ****** because i dont like it and i have never seen anyone do as well as they can with the other racial variants..the day i see someone stomping with the ascr ill believe it..personally though i cannot test its viability my eye condition prevents me from be able to use weapons that have such visual distortion Well, that's you. I have stomped on many occasions with the ASCR, it's not difficult, it's like an AR but with a slightly different play style.
It's actually quite enjoyable, but I mostly use Gallente gear so I don't really run it often.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2635
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:42:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact. doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type Just used it in a few matches to try it again. Conclusion - it's not bad but I'd take any other rifle over it, I'd say the cause is to many armor tanks.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:45:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it. There's a list? |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:59:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it. There's a list? Yep somewhere.
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
1959
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:10:00 -
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I don't know. Gal scouts can still do our job much better. They can tank just as much armor while being faster, able to cloak, detect others on passive scan better, and are also harder to detect on passive scan. Sure, they can't fire the ScR or LR as long as we can, but when you can be almost completely invisible, you only need a shotgun to deal your damage.
Or for even more annoyance, pop out at range with a combat rifle and destroy your targets while they get their bearings.
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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"Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.06.29 06:44:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:I don't know. Gal scouts can still do our job much better. They can tank just as much armor while being faster, able to cloak, detect others on passive scan better, and are also harder to detect on passive scan. Sure, they can't fire the ScR or LR as long as we can, but when you can be almost completely invisible, you only need a shotgun to deal your damage.
Or for even more annoyance, pop out at range with a combat rifle and destroy your targets while they get their bearings. Exactly. And the worst part is, the HP difference is tiny. I have seen scouts with more HP than m assault >_>
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.29 07:55:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Trying different fits with the caldari right now.. Dies to quick and can't kill anything in time. So far anyways.
Tell me about it. I am running a Dren Cal Assault with Dual sidearms and I am doing so-so. Take scouts and heavies with RR's and I would be doing a lot better. CCP assaults need a buff ASAP.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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Lynn Beck
EnvyUs.
1965
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Posted - 2014.06.29 08:37:00 -
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I'd say the Amarr Assault needs a racial defense bonus, along with a shield recharge buff(swap with scout?)
So what you're saying is. You want the Amarr Scout(which you all complain about) to be more or less the better Assaut(bonuses aside)?
Imagine if it was possible to run a Ak.0 scout, and a Ak.0 assault, without bonuses.
The scout is just generally, better. Maybe in shield tanking the Assault isn't, but LolDualTanking, right?
Scout is: Faster Better shield regen 4th low(assault got 3/3 setup, right?) Smaller frame Ability to run non-racial weaponry 2 equips
The only thing making your Amarr assault, is the ability to out DPS heavies using modded controler or dido fingers. Without either of those, you're terrible.
General John Ripper
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