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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:05:00 -
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while your considering buffing assault leave my amar assault out of it unless you want to make it op
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Agreed.
The Amarr assault is an excellent example of an assault suit in a good place. Further buffs would make it overly strong now.
yeah i figured as amarrians we should step up and make sure that our assault doesnt get ****** with.
rattati is on point with what he does to dust..he wants to buff assaults over nerfing heavies..and i just felt it was a point that needed pointing out to save us from an op moment and an over nerf |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Trying different fits with the caldari right now.. Dies to quick and can't kill anything in time. So far anyways.
yeah i dunno about the other assaults but the amar gets a perfect bonus and def is ina good place.
i would agree with buffing assault over nerfing heavies anyday..but i feel the amar assault does not need it..even if the others do |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:20:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them.
i agree what makes the amar assault is all our weapon perform better on our assault than everything else..with the exception being the ascr like you just pointed out ..
i can def agree with giving the ascr a real heat cost |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:22:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass.
and it really does..all raising the heat cost would do..is make it better on the amar assault than on other suits..it wouldnt make it viable..ascr is incredibly pointless... |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:22:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle.
this is true i can vouch for it..but again i still think its a useless weapom |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Very kind of you.
Now to something about the ScR :p
Ok it's not OP, but can we at least give the AScR a overheat on the first mag? I can't do it with a non-Amarr suit, and I'm tired of getting killed by scouts using them. No cuz the ASCR sucks ass. The ASCR recoil is visual. It's actually perfectly accurate. Now go try and use it while ignoring the recoil. Suddenly it becomes an amazing assault rifle. I've had it since day one I'm actually on the list of top ASCR users.. I'd say I've used it. Then you obviously have no idea what potential your gun has, look above.
yah i gotta side with the Chinese food on this one..been using it since day one and still didnt realize it has no real kick |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact.
doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
Or maybe I actually run assault suits?
Oh aren't you a special snowflake? I run assault suits too, as my main suits in fact. doesnt matter what suit you run ascr is still pretty ****** vs every other racial variant of the same type Nope, you're just using it wrong. It's that simple. Stop looking at the DPS alone and thinking it's bad.
im notta stat number person...i think its ****** because i dont like it and i have never seen anyone do as well as they can with the other racial variants..the day i see someone stomping with the ascr ill believe it..personally though i cannot test its viability my eye condition prevents me from be able to use weapons that have such visual distortion |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 09:37:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:I'd say the Amarr Assault needs a racial defense bonus, along with a shield recharge buff(swap with scout?)
So what you're saying is. You want the Amarr Scout(which you all complain about) to be more or less the better Assaut(bonuses aside)?
Imagine if it was possible to run a Ak.0 scout, and a Ak.0 assault, without bonuses.
The scout is just generally, better. Maybe in shield tanking the Assault isn't, but LolDualTanking, right?
Scout is:
Faster
Better shield regen
4th low(assault got 3/3 setup, right?)
Smaller frame
Ability to run non-racial weaponry
2 equips
The only thing making your Amarr assault, is the ability to out DPS heavies using modded controler or dido fingers.
Without either of those, you're terrible.
And don't even go ragy 'i will raep your face with Scr lazory goodness'
Duh. I'm minmatar. I die to Lazer rifles in CQC, my Heavy gets 1 shot by Shotguns/locus nades, my Commando can't even fight a Mlt Hmg Heavy.
actually proto assault is a 3/4
and if you think dual tank ability counts for **** on amar suits your a fool we are not minnie trash
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Couple of things,
Amarr assaults now have 3/4 slot layout at proto, not 3/3, (2/3 at adv).
Amarr assaults have 200hp more than Gal scouts, plus an additional module slot at proto. Not sure I would describe the hp difference as "tiny". Compare race vs race. The Gallente scout also has a massive speed advantage over the Amarr. So you trade one thing for another. Also, the HP difference is 160, not 200 :)
and now lets look at the dps difference with the lr...lol dont forget to account for 3 high slots for assault so 3 dmg mods
seriously though cat merc your a math person what is the dmg difference for the lr on the amar assault vs other non amar suits?
because i argue that the amar assault is in a right place because of how well it operates for me using my given amar weapon...so what exactly is the difference in running a lr on amar assault vs non amar,,
because what makes my assault suit for me...is my lr..i dont run scramblers at all i only have this suit for lr..and when the lr is on it its ina perfectly fine place |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 16:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Couple of things,
Amarr assaults now have 3/4 slot layout at proto, not 3/3, (2/3 at adv).
Amarr assaults have 200hp more than Gal scouts, plus an additional module slot at proto. Not sure I would describe the hp difference as "tiny". Compare race vs race. The Gallente scout also has a massive speed advantage over the Amarr. So you trade one thing for another. Also, the HP difference is 160, not 200 :) and now lets look at the dps difference with the lr...lol dont forget to account for 3 high slots for assault so 3 dmg mods seriously though cat merc your a math person what is the dmg difference for the lr on the amar assault vs other non amar suits? because i argue that the amar assault is in a right place because of how well it operates for me using my given amar weapon...so what exactly is the difference in running a lr on amar assault vs non amar,, because what makes my assault suit for me...is my lr..i dont run scramblers at all i only have this suit for lr..and when the lr is on it its ina perfectly fine place When it comes to the laser, I really couldn't give two ***** about the Amarr bonus. When it comes to the SCR, the bonus is great, but it's not worth losing the scout bonuses. Two equipment, complete EWAR dominance (meaning that most scanners can't detect you, and you see all non scout suits through walls for free), faster speed, cloak, smaller hitbox. All for an extra 6 shots on the SCR before overheat?
nothing will convince me that the amarr scout is better than the amarr asault and i couldmt give 2 ***** about the puny lil other races
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.29 16:52:00 -
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clearly catmerc your not good enough with the amar assault to appreciate its value |
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