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axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:37:00 - [1] - Quote This is my current suit. I run Gal Commando for the Suit Bonuses and because, well, I'm Gallente. Quote: STD Gal Commando G-1 (3k) Militia Scrambler Rifle (.6k) Breach Assault Rifle (2k) Militia Kin Cat (.4k) Militia Stamina Recovery/Booster (.4k) Militia Repair Tool (.4k) Around 7.5k, but I don't do math that well. Run ambush most of the time, get 15 average in Ambush and 20 in Ambush OMS Quote: Skills that I have that relate to this: Maxed dropsuit upgrade skills except for Biotics Gallente Heavy Suits lvl 3, Gallente Commando Suits lvl 3 AR Max Level + Max Proficiency ScR Max Level + Lvl 1 Proficiency I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11247	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote Why are you stacking Scrambler Rifles on this suit? You are ignoring you racial bonuses and not receiving anything for it. in doing so you become significantly less effective than even a basic Amarr Commando. Look into Plasma Cannon, Shotguns, and Burst and Tactical Assault Rifles. All gain the damage bonus to plasma hybrid weapons, and have, now, we well defined roles. I'd also sub out the rep tool if you run solo for a Compact Nanohive or repping Nanohive, and focus less on your biotic modules and embrace the Armour Repair Tank you could be. To me it looks like you are trying to play a combination of Amarr and Minmatar Commando on a Gallente Frame........ " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8638	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:41:00 - [3] - Quote The Lord of the Commandos has been summoned. I shall answer your inquiry momentarily, but for now I shall reserve the first post. EDIT: Damn you True! Amarr are the good guys.
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:42:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Why are you stacking Scrambler Rifles on this suit? You are ignoring you racial bonuses and not receiving anything for it. in doing so you become significantly less effective than even a basic Amarr Commando. Look into Plasma Cannon, Shotguns, and Burst and Tactical Assault Rifles. All gain the damage bonus to plasma hybrid weapons, and have, now, we well defined roles. TAR cost an arm and a leg. Its all about what you use well, and well, I used to use ScR's full time. So I'm still good at using them, and figured skill would override racial bonus. PLC is good, but feels clunky and ineffective on a Commando, I've always used it with a scout that runs 8+m/s and had good effect with it...but I'll consider this again. I haven't checked out shotguns yet. Will do. Thanks True :3 I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11247	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:47:00 - [5] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Why are you stacking Scrambler Rifles on this suit? You are ignoring you racial bonuses and not receiving anything for it. in doing so you become significantly less effective than even a basic Amarr Commando. Look into Plasma Cannon, Shotguns, and Burst and Tactical Assault Rifles. All gain the damage bonus to plasma hybrid weapons, and have, now, we well defined roles. TAR cost an arm and a leg. Its all about what you use well, and well, I used to use ScR's full time. So I'm still good at using them, and figured skill would override racial bonus. PLC is good, but feels clunky and ineffective on a Commando, I've always used it with a scout that runs 8+m/s and had good effect with it...but I'll consider this again. I haven't checked out shotguns yet. Will do. Thanks True :3 If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando. Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back. Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days. I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob. Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6221	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:49:00 - [6] - Quote Dear god what is this? yes, you might as well go with Amarr. This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5443	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:51:00 - [7] - Quote I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:52:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: [quote=True Adamance] If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando. Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back. Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days. I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob. Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando. Ah, I see now. Most of the time I give fire support so that my squad can move around and flank with ease, and yet at the same time not be as bogged down as a full on Sentinel. About two of the same weapon I am slightly confused, Comrade True. I often replace TAR with ScR depending on what and where my engagements are. BAR I always keep on my Commando. I often use BAR as my ARR but with racial bonuses + no charge to shoot time. However, I do sense sage advice and will take into account the effort that you provided here already and as thus will make sure it does not go to waste :3 I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:54:00 - [9] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. I understand the Kincat + Cardiac Reg, will replace with reps. However, Comrade McBob, although I deeply respect you I cannot agree--don't you think BREACH Assault Rifle is the new Rail Rifle? There's no charge time, and higher damage, and without Railgun recoil. Repair tool is just to earn extra points if I'm with heavies. But true, the nanohives will allow me to run solo. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11250	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:55:00 - [10] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. Basically my suggestions. A proper Gallente fit is more than a match for anything that can be thrown at it. Roll-up fast, hit hard, fortify, hunker down, and rep through anything that comes back at you. Gallente Gk.0 1 Plate 2 Complex Reps 1 Damage Module (I'm assuming a 1/3 fit) Allotek Triage (I think its called) Nanohive Allotek Burst Rifle Proto Plasma Cannon. All up you get some nice Reps with maxed skills to about 15 per second, plus your Nanohive not to mention a 15% increase to damage output due to damage module coupled with maxed Commando Skills. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III

axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 139	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:58:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. Basically my suggestions. A proper Gallente fit is more than a match for anything that can be thrown at it. Roll-up fast, hit hard, fortify, hunker down, and rep through anything that comes back at you. Gallente Gk.0 1 Plate 2 Complex Reps 1 Damage Module (I'm assuming a 1/3 fit) Allotek Triage (I think its called) Nanohive Allotek Burst Rifle Proto Plasma Cannon. All up you get some nice Reps with maxed skills to about 15 per second, plus your Nanohive not to mention a 15% increase to damage output due to damage module coupled with maxed Commando Skills. Ahh I see many thanks!!! This seems a great idea for a proto-fit (which I have not at the moment). Will run with this, I have been enlightened. Although I probably will not change my cheap fit and leave as is :3 I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11252	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:02:00 - [12] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: [quote=True Adamance] If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando. Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back. Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days. I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob. Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando. Ah, I see now. Most of the time I give fire support so that my squad can move around and flank with ease, and yet at the same time not be as bogged down as a full on Sentinel. About two of the same weapon I am slightly confused, Comrade True. I often replace TAR with ScR depending on what and where my engagements are. BAR I always keep on my Commando. I often use BAR as my ARR but with racial bonuses + no charge to shoot time. However, I do sense sage advice and will take into account the effort that you provided here already and as thus will make sure it does not go to waste :3 You are doing your role right. Fire Support and Suppression is how Aero taught me to think, but I'll only suggest to you that your fire support role can be achieved with, if not better, Gallente tech. However if you prefer to be at long range then I would have suggested the Caldari or Amarr Commandos. Basically as I see it the Gall Commando is more agressive, closer ranged, but puts out more raw fire power being able to support the squad at medium Range as well as during assaults at close range. Also consider that the strength of a Commando does not lie in its capacity to fit two weapons which damage different tanking types (aka- you are not strong because you can fit an SCR and a Combat Rifle) your strength lies in your ability to select weapons that compliment one another in establishing your base of fire as well as providing an adaptable hull for potential AV combat. E.G- My Amarr Ak.0 Fit consists of Amarr Ak.0 Viziam Laser Rifle Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle My Plates, Repair Units, and Damage Modules Wyrkomi Nanite Injector My build allows me to dominate long to medium range engagement while relying on my ASCR in close ranged combat. while taking full advantage of the damage bonuses. Aero just gave some great advice, and i tend to listen to him when it comes to Commando things. He used to also have a great template for skill investment that game suggestions at SP stages starting at 1 Million and Maxing out at 25+ Million. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8644	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:05:00 - [13] - Quote I updated my post (post #3) with my advice. Quite a lengthy read but I wanted to make sure I covered everything I viewed as critical to any inspiring commando. Amarr are the good guys.
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:06:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: [quote=True Adamance] If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando. Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back. Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days. I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob. Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando. Ah, I see now. Most of the time I give fire support so that my squad can move around and flank with ease, and yet at the same time not be as bogged down as a full on Sentinel. About two of the same weapon I am slightly confused, Comrade True. I often replace TAR with ScR depending on what and where my engagements are. BAR I always keep on my Commando. I often use BAR as my ARR but with racial bonuses + no charge to shoot time. However, I do sense sage advice and will take into account the effort that you provided here already and as thus will make sure it does not go to waste :3 You are doing your role right. Fire Support and Suppression is how Aero taught me to think, but I'll only suggest to you that your fire support role can be achieved with, if not better, Gallente tech. However if you prefer to be at long range then I would have suggested the Caldari or Amarr Commandos. Basically as I see it the Gall Commando is more agressive, closer ranged, but puts out more raw fire power being able to support the squad at medium Range as well as during assaults at close range. Also consider that the strength of a Commando does not lie in its capacity to fit two weapons which damage different tanking types (aka- you are not strong because you can fit an SCR and a Combat Rifle) your strength lies in your ability to select weapons that compliment one another in establishing your base of fire as well as providing an adaptable hull for potential AV combat. E.G- My Amarr Ak.0 Fit consists of Amarr Ak.0 Viziam Laser Rifle Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle My Plates, Repair Units, and Damage Modules Wyrkomi Nanite Injector My build allows me to dominate long to medium range engagement while relying on my ASCR in close ranged combat. while taking full advantage of the damage bonuses. I see. In this case I might as well have been born Amarrian--I already have maxed out prof and leveling for LR, and up to Prof 1 on ScR. But if I were merely to copy you, Comrade True, what then do I become? A copycat, a fake of True Adamance that can never be as good as the real. No, that cannot, that should not be. I will take your advice, treat it like the sage words they are, apply it to my suit, and become the person and individual that would make your advice shine through my actions. Thank you, Comrade True. I have been inspired and enlightened today, and I thank all else who have participated in this thread. Spasiba. -Invictus I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:07:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I updated my post (post #3) with my advice. Quite a lengthy read but I wanted to make sure I covered everything I viewed as critical to any aspiring commando. Many thanks! I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8646	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:10:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aero just gave some great advice, and i tend to listen to him when it comes to Commando things. He used to also have a great template for skill investment that game suggestions at SP stages starting at 1 Million and Maxing out at 25+ Million. That SP guide can be found at the bottom of the second post here, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=135268 Do note it is just a template, not every fit will necessarily require completely maxed out fitting skills. Also as far as interesting fits go, once you get to prototype and have 3 lows I am really liking 1x Complex Armor Plate 1x Complex Reactive Plate 1x Complex Armor Repair This suggestion came from my good Commando buddy Mauren NOON. I know what you're going to say, "COMPLEX REACTIVE PLATES? REALLY?" That's what I thought too. But when you look at the stats, this will give you about the same total armor as running 2 enhanced armor plates but doesn't slow you down as much and gives you more armor repair. Really neat fitting discovery and I'm really digging it. Amarr are the good guys.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11255	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:11:00 - [17] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: I see. In this case I might as well have been born Amarrian--I already have maxed out prof and leveling for LR, and up to Prof 1 on ScR. But if I were merely to copy you, Comrade True, what then do I become? A copycat, a fake of True Adamance that can never be as good as the real. No, that cannot, that should not be. I will take your advice, treat it like the sage words they are, apply it to my suit, and become the person and individual that would make your advice shine through my actions. Thank you, Comrade True. I have been inspired and enlightened today, and I thank all else who have participated in this thread. Spasiba. -Invictus Meh my fit is a carbon Copy of Aero's except I like gank over tank. But Aero is my alt so its all cool. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8646	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:15:00 - [18] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: But if I were merely to copy you, Comrade True, what then do I become? A copycat, a fake of True Adamance that can never be as good as the real. Oh please, True Adamance is already a fake of Aero Yassavi that can never be as good as the real But to answer your question, what then do you become? You become apart of the self-acclaimed elite brotherhood of Commandos. You wouldn't be the first person to copy my fit, just like True Adamance isn't the first. We have a nice small little group of friends who all run very similar fits. I like to think that I came up with the original template, but even then others are always finding improvements, for instance as I mentioned just earlier about how Mauren NOON discovered the brilliance of combing 1 complex armor plate, 1 complex reactive plate, and 1 complex armor repair. Amarr are the good guys.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11255	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:18:00 - [19] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: But if I were merely to copy you, Comrade True, what then do I become? A copycat, a fake of True Adamance that can never be as good as the real. Oh please, True Adamance is already a fake of Aero Yassavi that can never be as good as the real But to answer your question, what then do you become? You become apart of the self-acclaimed elite brotherhood of Commandos. You wouldn't be the first person to copy my fit, just like True Adamance isn't the first. We have a nice small little group of friends who all run very similar fits. I like to think that I came up with the original template, but even then others are always finding improvements, for instance as I mentioned just earlier about how Mauren NOON discovered the brilliance of combing 1 complex armor plate, 1 complex reactive plate, and 1 complex armor repair. I run the Nanite Injector because you want me to. Personally I'd be more about the Nanohives and mah damage modules. Other than that there isn't much more than what we currently use that is more Amarrian unless you subbed that extra repper out for a plate. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:18:00 - [20] - Quote Quote: Ok, you're definitely approaching the suit all wrong. Firstly, I see a lot of militia. The name of the game isn't how cheap you can make your fit, it's how cost effective you can make it. The Commando suit especially is one of those suits where invested extra ISK into quality weapons and modules will result in much better performance meaning less deaths and more straight profit! I see. Although my suit already performs quite well (15/4 or 20/5, whether its Ambush or Ambush OMS on average), I can see how having better equipment can allow me to get even better ratios. In longer matches, this would be even more so. Quote: Next your weapon choices. At first I thought maybe you were going for different damage profiles, but even then the Assault Rifle and SCR are both shield oriented. And really you don't want to be picking weapons based on damage profiles anyways, you want to pick based on complimentary ranges and try to stick within your racial bonuses. So if you are going Gallente, I'd either try for Assault Rifle and Plasma Cannon if you are a good shot or Assault Rifle and Shotgun and try to stick to enclosed areas. Heh heh although I'm already 22.6 mil SP into the game, even this I did not know my Damage Profiles; always thought that AR was armor oriented. But I see your point, maybe I'll pick up RR since Gal Commando gets bonuses on it, I think. Although one reason I haven't done this already is that my RR is at Lvl 4 without proficiency, while my AR is maxed out Proficiency. Quote: Another note on the default charge scrambler rifle, as much as I love it I avoid it on my commandos. This is just a preference, but I find even maxed out it cannot dish out enough damage to kill a lot of suits before overheating. This is fine on the Amarr Assault with the heat reduction or even any other medium or light suit that is coupled with a sidearm to help finish things off (as most sidearms will have about the same range as a scrambler rifle), but if you are going to take advantage of the ability to carry two light weapons and pick weapons with complimentary ranges, your second light weapon may not necessarily serve as a great finisher like sidearms, so I stick with assault scrambler rifles on my commandos. Hmm, I didn't think about this. This is true, I find myself overheating a lot, and often times ducking behind cover because of an overheat, while a blueberry might steal my kill--and sometimes, the raspberry runs away. I see why using a ScR with this layout may not be a good idea. Quote: As far as the equipment goes, definitely ditch the repair tool. If you are repairing someone that means you don't have any of your guns out and there goes your suits main advantage. And trust me, one you max your skills out you will be much more beneficial to your team in a fire fight but shooting back at the enemies opposed to trying to keep someone up. I'd swap that out for a nanite injector. The reason is because if you are carrying two light weapons with complimentary ranges than you are the ideal suit to clear enemies off downed teammates, also reviving someone only takes a split second and you are back to firing your guns, and (I know this is going to sound bad) your newly revived teammate can provide an excellent distraction and/or shield to help you take out the enemy. Most importantly though Commandos work great in squads with other Commandos, so if you both carry needles and keep each other alive it is more useful than any other equipment. Main role of a Commando as Fire Support, I see. I didn't think about Needles there, but will definitely think about it. If I run solo I might take Comrade True's opinion on taking a Nanohive (R) with me. Quote: Onto skills, I suggest getting your Armor Upgrades and Shield Upgrades to 4 first. Then get get your armor repairers to 5, you'll want to be running complex repairers even on your advanced fits. Then pick either the PLC and Shotgun and get that up, save your scrambler rifle for other fits or skill into Amarr Commando. Then get your weapon's ammo capacity and rapid reload to at least 3 but preferrably 4. Then max out your Commando skill for full bonuses, then add other skills like Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades, and finally work on maxing out all the related skills you started. Already maxed out DS Upgrades except for Biotics, thats the only reason I'm running Militia Kin Cats + Cardiac Regs. Comrade Aero...you and Comrade True have inspired me in the ways of the Commando. I will forever work hard with both of your advice in mind! Many thanks! I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11257	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:19:00 - [21] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Quote: Ok, you're definitely approaching the suit all wrong. Firstly, I see a lot of militia. The name of the game isn't how cheap you can make your fit, it's how cost effective you can make it. The Commando suit especially is one of those suits where invested extra ISK into quality weapons and modules will result in much better performance meaning less deaths and more straight profit! I see. Although my suit already performs quite well (15/4 or 20/5, whether its Ambush or Ambush OMS on average), I can see how having better equipment can allow me to get even better ratios. In longer matches, this would be even more so. Once you put more SP into Commando you will be cutting those deaths out. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:19:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Meh my fit is a carbon Copy of Aero's except I like gank over tank. But Aero is my alt so its all cool. The confusion is real. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 758	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:21:00 - [23] - Quote If full prof in galmando and ar ide go: std galmando Gek Basic ar M1 Adv scanner 2 x prof damp. If you cant make isk with that.... Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11257	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:22:00 - [24] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Meh my fit is a carbon Copy of Aero's except I like gank over tank. But Aero is my alt so its all cool. The confusion is real. Aero is a manifestation of my arrogance..... or Aerogance as I call it. While I am a handsome Templar Commando with a roguish perhant for tanks, Aero is an angry dropship flying fiend who kidnaps young women for his nefarious purposes. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:27:00 - [25] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: If full prof in galmando and ar ide go: std galmando Gek Basic ar M1 Adv scanner 2 x prof damp. If you cant make isk with that.... blinks since my current fit only costs me 7.5k, I only spend about 30k a match while getting in return about 170-200k, after Corp taxes. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8646	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:29:00 - [26] - Quote I definitely feel your pain of already having invested many skill points into something and not wanting it to go to waste. However, you can always find use for your other weapons on other suits, I'd say it is extremely important to make sure you are maximizing those racial bonuses. 10% flat damage buff is HUGE. Luckily with you it seems it is mostly just the weaponry, and weaponry in general doesn't take very long to skill. Perhaps try your AR with a militia Shotgun and see if you like the playstyle, and if so then pursue it. If not, try fitting other weapon combos ideal for other commandos on your Gal commandos. Try it with the assault scrambler rifle and the rail rifle, the mass driver and the combat rifle, the rail rifle and sniper, or any other combo you can think of. If any of these pique your interest than start pursuing the appropriate Commando suit. I know that may seem frustrating at first, but luckily you're still only at level 3 in the Gal Commando which would only set you back just shy of 900,000 SP, which can be acquired in 2-3 weeks. I mean, definitely see if any of the Gallente Commando oriented weapon combos pique your interest first, but don't shy away from efficiency because of misplaced SP. Amarr are the good guys.
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5447	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:30:00 - [27] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. I understand the Kincat + Cardiac Reg, will replace with reps. However, Comrade McBob, although I deeply respect you I cannot agree--don't you think BREACH Assault Rifle is the new Rail Rifle? There's no charge time, and higher damage, and without Railgun recoil. Repair tool is just to earn extra points if I'm with heavies. But true, the nanohives will allow me to run solo. I'm saying the rail rifle because of range pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8650	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:30:00 - [28] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: If full prof in galmando and ar ide go: std galmando Gek Basic ar M1 Adv scanner 2 x prof damp. If you cant make isk with that.... Not sure how serious of a Commando this guy is simply because his listed fit has an M1, but anyone who plays commando fairly regularly would never forget that we don't get any grenade slots. Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11265	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:31:00 - [29] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: If full prof in galmando and ar ide go: std galmando Gek Basic ar M1 Adv scanner 2 x prof damp. If you cant make isk with that.... blinks since my current fit only costs me 7.5k, I only spend about 30k a match while getting in return about 170-200k, after Corp taxes. HyenaKillier is obviously not a Commando....since we cannot equip M1 Grenades.....or any grenades for that matter.....and is limiting himself to 1 range by not investing in higher tier, different, or complimentary weapons............. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:34:00 - [30] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. I understand the Kincat + Cardiac Reg, will replace with reps. However, Comrade McBob, although I deeply respect you I cannot agree--don't you think BREACH Assault Rifle is the new Rail Rifle? There's no charge time, and higher damage, and without Railgun recoil. Repair tool is just to earn extra points if I'm with heavies. But true, the nanohives will allow me to run solo. I'm saying the rail rifle because of range And ScR does not have that range? At any rate, I have decided to follow Comrade True and Aero's footsteps and suggestions. There way of the Commando seems right and noble, and at any rate I have decided to not let them or their advice down. Right now I do not matter...but all that matters is when any of us meets up on the battlefield--whether we fight honorably as opponents or bravely as comrades. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...



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