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axINVICTUSxa wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

axINVICTUSxa wrote:

[quote=True Adamance]

If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando.

Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back.

Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days.

I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob.

Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando.

Ah, I see now.

Most of the time I give fire support so that my squad can move around and flank with ease, and yet at the same time not be as bogged down as a full on Sentinel.

About two of the same weapon I am slightly confused, Comrade True. I often replace TAR with ScR depending on what and where my engagements are. BAR I always keep on my Commando. I often use BAR as my ARR but with racial bonuses + no charge to shoot time.

However, I do sense sage advice and will take into account the effort that you provided here already and as thus will make sure it does not go to waste :3

" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III


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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11247	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:40:00 - [1] - Quote Why are you stacking Scrambler Rifles on this suit? You are ignoring you racial bonuses and not receiving anything for it. in doing so you become significantly less effective than even a basic Amarr Commando. Look into Plasma Cannon, Shotguns, and Burst and Tactical Assault Rifles. All gain the damage bonus to plasma hybrid weapons, and have, now, we well defined roles. I'd also sub out the rep tool if you run solo for a Compact Nanohive or repping Nanohive, and focus less on your biotic modules and embrace the Armour Repair Tank you could be. To me it looks like you are trying to play a combination of Amarr and Minmatar Commando on a Gallente Frame........ " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11247	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:47:00 - [2] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Why are you stacking Scrambler Rifles on this suit? You are ignoring you racial bonuses and not receiving anything for it. in doing so you become significantly less effective than even a basic Amarr Commando. Look into Plasma Cannon, Shotguns, and Burst and Tactical Assault Rifles. All gain the damage bonus to plasma hybrid weapons, and have, now, we well defined roles. TAR cost an arm and a leg. Its all about what you use well, and well, I used to use ScR's full time. So I'm still good at using them, and figured skill would override racial bonus. PLC is good, but feels clunky and ineffective on a Commando, I've always used it with a scout that runs 8+m/s and had good effect with it...but I'll consider this again. I haven't checked out shotguns yet. Will do. Thanks True :3 If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando. Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back. Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days. I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob. Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11250	Posted - 2014.06.26 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I can't really speak for your play style (honestly the entire fitting looks ****** up to me), but I can give you some basic pointers- -Drop the kincat and cardiac reg; replace them with reps -Unless you're hell-bent on the scrambler+AR combo, get rid of the scrambler and get either a rail rifle or a plasma cannon (depending on whether you want to be a mid-range specialist or a CQC specialist) -Unless you're hell-bent on the repair tool thing, replace it with nanohives. Basically my suggestions. A proper Gallente fit is more than a match for anything that can be thrown at it. Roll-up fast, hit hard, fortify, hunker down, and rep through anything that comes back at you. Gallente Gk.0 1 Plate 2 Complex Reps 1 Damage Module (I'm assuming a 1/3 fit) Allotek Triage (I think its called) Nanohive Allotek Burst Rifle Proto Plasma Cannon. All up you get some nice Reps with maxed skills to about 15 per second, plus your Nanohive not to mention a 15% increase to damage output due to damage module coupled with maxed Commando Skills. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11252	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:02:00 - [4] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: [quote=True Adamance] If that was the case, and I can understand aesthetic and lore driven selection, what did you not roll with the Amarr Commando. Additionally you have selected 2 of the same type of weapon..... perhaps if you explain a little more about how you play or wish to play the Commando I can provide a bit better feed back. Additionally I would suggest Plasma weapons since you can pick up AR and Plasma Canon on the cheap these days. I do wish to point out the Burst AR does on a Lvl 5 Gallente Commando almost 750 DPSd and a Plasma Cannon gains an extra 150-200 damage per blob. Consider that that bonus to damage is one of your best assets as a Commando. Ah, I see now. Most of the time I give fire support so that my squad can move around and flank with ease, and yet at the same time not be as bogged down as a full on Sentinel. About two of the same weapon I am slightly confused, Comrade True. I often replace TAR with ScR depending on what and where my engagements are. BAR I always keep on my Commando. I often use BAR as my ARR but with racial bonuses + no charge to shoot time. However, I do sense sage advice and will take into account the effort that you provided here already and as thus will make sure it does not go to waste :3 You are doing your role right. Fire Support and Suppression is how Aero taught me to think, but I'll only suggest to you that your fire support role can be achieved with, if not better, Gallente tech. However if you prefer to be at long range then I would have suggested the Caldari or Amarr Commandos. Basically as I see it the Gall Commando is more agressive, closer ranged, but puts out more raw fire power being able to support the squad at medium Range as well as during assaults at close range. Also consider that the strength of a Commando does not lie in its capacity to fit two weapons which damage different tanking types (aka- you are not strong because you can fit an SCR and a Combat Rifle) your strength lies in your ability to select weapons that compliment one another in establishing your base of fire as well as providing an adaptable hull for potential AV combat. E.G- My Amarr Ak.0 Fit consists of Amarr Ak.0 Viziam Laser Rifle Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle My Plates, Repair Units, and Damage Modules Wyrkomi Nanite Injector My build allows me to dominate long to medium range engagement while relying on my ASCR in close ranged combat. while taking full advantage of the damage bonuses. Aero just gave some great advice, and i tend to listen to him when it comes to Commando things. He used to also have a great template for skill investment that game suggestions at SP stages starting at 1 Million and Maxing out at 25+ Million. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11255	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:11:00 - [5] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: I see. In this case I might as well have been born Amarrian--I already have maxed out prof and leveling for LR, and up to Prof 1 on ScR. But if I were merely to copy you, Comrade True, what then do I become? A copycat, a fake of True Adamance that can never be as good as the real. No, that cannot, that should not be. I will take your advice, treat it like the sage words they are, apply it to my suit, and become the person and individual that would make your advice shine through my actions. Thank you, Comrade True. I have been inspired and enlightened today, and I thank all else who have participated in this thread. Spasiba. -Invictus Meh my fit is a carbon Copy of Aero's except I like gank over tank. But Aero is my alt so its all cool. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11255	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:18:00 - [6] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: But if I were merely to copy you, Comrade True, what then do I become? A copycat, a fake of True Adamance that can never be as good as the real. Oh please, True Adamance is already a fake of Aero Yassavi that can never be as good as the real But to answer your question, what then do you become? You become apart of the self-acclaimed elite brotherhood of Commandos. You wouldn't be the first person to copy my fit, just like True Adamance isn't the first. We have a nice small little group of friends who all run very similar fits. I like to think that I came up with the original template, but even then others are always finding improvements, for instance as I mentioned just earlier about how Mauren NOON discovered the brilliance of combing 1 complex armor plate, 1 complex reactive plate, and 1 complex armor repair. I run the Nanite Injector because you want me to. Personally I'd be more about the Nanohives and mah damage modules. Other than that there isn't much more than what we currently use that is more Amarrian unless you subbed that extra repper out for a plate. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11257	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:19:00 - [7] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Quote: Ok, you're definitely approaching the suit all wrong. Firstly, I see a lot of militia. The name of the game isn't how cheap you can make your fit, it's how cost effective you can make it. The Commando suit especially is one of those suits where invested extra ISK into quality weapons and modules will result in much better performance meaning less deaths and more straight profit! I see. Although my suit already performs quite well (15/4 or 20/5, whether its Ambush or Ambush OMS on average), I can see how having better equipment can allow me to get even better ratios. In longer matches, this would be even more so. Once you put more SP into Commando you will be cutting those deaths out. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11257	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:22:00 - [8] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Meh my fit is a carbon Copy of Aero's except I like gank over tank. But Aero is my alt so its all cool. The confusion is real. Aero is a manifestation of my arrogance..... or Aerogance as I call it. While I am a handsome Templar Commando with a roguish perhant for tanks, Aero is an angry dropship flying fiend who kidnaps young women for his nefarious purposes. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11265	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:31:00 - [9] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: If full prof in galmando and ar ide go: std galmando Gek Basic ar M1 Adv scanner 2 x prof damp. If you cant make isk with that.... blinks since my current fit only costs me 7.5k, I only spend about 30k a match while getting in return about 170-200k, after Corp taxes. HyenaKillier is obviously not a Commando....since we cannot equip M1 Grenades.....or any grenades for that matter.....and is limiting himself to 1 range by not investing in higher tier, different, or complimentary weapons............. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11265	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:37:00 - [10] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: And ScR does not have that range? At any rate, I have decided to follow Comrade True and Aero's footsteps and suggestions. There way of the Commando seems right and noble, and at any rate I have decided to not let them or their advice down. Right now I do not matter...but all that matters is when any of us meets up on the battlefield--whether we fight honorably as opponents or bravely as comrades. While I think its great you are looking into maximising the Commando role at our suggestion....makes me feel all tingly inside..... remember this is your game and your fun. Look into what YOU want..... its not our place to tell you how to play your game, all we can do is suggest how to optimise a fit. As long as you are having fun nothing else matters......BUT If you can have fun and kick ass..... that's even better. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11270	Posted - 2014.06.27 00:39:00 - [11] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Excellent work, grasshopper. You identification of false commandos is improving. Pffff me a grasshopper? I go first post in here.....seems like I have surpassed your Commando thread finding skills. You might be the WHITE KNIGHT COMMANDO this city wants...... But I am the DARK KNIGHT COMMANDO this city deserves! " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11272	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:05:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: So much Amarr in this thread. Eugh Amarr's Leader: Jamyl Sarum Gallente's Leader: Jacus Roden Which one is "Eugh" now? The Amarr, that ass is infected. Amarr- Only faction led by a badass, super empowered lesbian, with the unique ability to scare the living **** out of any and every man she comes into contact with, not to mention all them Terran super weapons..... she seems to be able to find. Gallente- Faction led by a U-nat arms dealing, stick of an old man, so ugly and without swag not even the whores on Caille will touch him. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11272	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:08:00 - [13] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: axINVICTUSxa wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Excellent work, grasshopper. You identification of false commandos is improving. The bagging is real. I respect Comrade Aero and True equally, however, and have no favorites :3 Hmm, maybe if you really want to follow in our footsteps I can try a little experiment and see if True Adamance is ready to graduate as an official AA Master Commando (AA = Aero Approved). If you wish to join our ranks, I shall make True Adamance your Sensei and you his grasshopper. Gladly, the honor is mine :3 Bugger you played me right into Aero's hands. And I though he (Aero) wasn't capable of such cunning. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11273	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:13:00 - [14] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: So much Amarr in this thread. Eugh Amarr's Leader: Jamyl Sarum Gallente's Leader: Jacus Roden Which one is "Eugh" now? The Amarr, that ass is infected. Amarr- Only faction led by a badass, super empowered lesbian, with the unique ability to scare the living **** out of any and every man she comes into contact with, not to mention all them Terran super weapons..... she seems to be able to find. Gallente- Faction led by a U-nat arms dealing, stick of an old man, so ugly and without swag not even the whores on Caille will touch him. O.o The Amarr faction is led by a Lesbian? Pardon me, but my young Russian bones do not allow me to serve under such a leader. Or at the very least, are somewhat opposed to the ideas that such a leader might come forthwith. No matter--a great leader is not determined by one's sexuality but rather the wisdom and intelligence he or she can procure and apply, in my opinion. I think that lore wise people are not fond of Tony Gonzales works concerning the New Eden universe as he has tended to take the New Eden story line in a very Space Opera direction. I'd have to take a look back at the lore.... but I am actually rather happy CCP took a badass female character (and Jamyl Sarum is really bad ass) and gave her all the power in the Cluster. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11275	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:34:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Mine and True's leadership isn't even remotely comparable to that of the great Empress Jamyl. She has the commanding presence of divinity. The mere sight of her grace strikes the enemies in fear, her elegant whispers deafen the enemies' roar. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/All_These_Wayward_Children_(Chronicle) Some words from the finest leader in New Eden. "You react. Sometimes you have to hurt someone to make them understand how badly they're hurting themselves. You have to come to the rescue by being the villain, not just for them but for everyone they touch, lest they lose themselves in that same hellish fire. So there is punishment, which is the wrong word for the right thing, something that marks them for life, brings them under control, makes them a productive part of society. What's the word I'm looking for, Jetek?" ....Benediction." Or my other favourite quote. "Do you think I'm beautiful?" she asked in a much milder tone. "Yes, Highness," he replied without a moment's thought. "Do you think I'm awesome?" she asked, every syllable of the word clicking smoothly into place. "Yes, Highness," he replied again. "Do you think I'm terrifying?" she asked, as if they were all the same questions. "Yes, Highness," he said, understanding that in fact they were. This is probably my favourite Chronicle and that thing that if I knew nothing else about New Eden would make me Amarrian to the core. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11276	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:28:00 - [16] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: "if you aren't part of the orgy you are part of the problem" - old Amarrian saying I figured that was more a Gallente thing...... " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11280	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:22:00 - [17] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: True Adamance wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: "if you aren't part of the orgy you are part of the problem" - old Amarrian saying I figured that was more a Gallente thing...... Gallente are more Lockean. "You werent doing it right so I took your rights and land away and F'ed you better than you could yourselves" You are one mixed up scout you know that? " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11281	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:30:00 - [18] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: True Adamance wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: True Adamance wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: "if you aren't part of the orgy you are part of the problem" - old Amarrian saying I figured that was more a Gallente thing...... Gallente are more Lockean. "You werent doing it right so I took your rights and land away and F'ed you better than you could yourselves" You are one mixed up scout you know that? Wrong. She's drunk and needs to go home. Oh well one mixed up scout who knows how to have a good time. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11281	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:36:00 - [19] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Hey! I am not just a Scout. I have one of every role suit at Proto and all 20 role suits at least at level 1 ....................ummmm yup but can you juggle? " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11282	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:47:00 - [20] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: I can, in fact, juggle. Good you are in. Welcome to the secret world of Juggling Commandos. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11288	Posted - 2014.06.27 03:54:00 - [21] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Juggling Commandos is what you call it when you rotate between Amarr Commando with AScR and LR, Calmmando with RR and SR, Calmmando with PLC and AR, and Min Commando with CR and MD, right? Uh...... sure..... Puts away juggling balls and picks up LR and ASCR.......... " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11316	Posted - 2014.06.28 08:07:00 - [22] - Quote axINVICTUSxa wrote: I see the light. Everything that Comrade True and Comrade Aero said was right. GK-13 Burst and GB-9 Breach combo + double reps gave me a 15-0 victory in Ambush (50 kills) for the very first time in a month. Thank you, Senseis. The advice is golden. My advice to any other Commando aspiring to join the noble Brotherhood ought to take their advice at full face value. Don't have to thank us at all. If it helps out its more than worth contributing advice and suggestion. Good luck with your Commandoing. Fortunately for you as a Gallente Commando you have a good couple of weapon options and combinations you can make to keep your Commando ready for any kind of fight. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."