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Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 394	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:35:00 - [1] - Quote or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Jotun Izalaru Goonfeet 141	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. Rail rifles are really good, but if there's a problem with them I'm gonna say it's their CQC viability. Not as good as CR but they're still really good while hipfiring which is a little weird. If you're getting killed from a hundred meters away, well, working as intended. Stop moving away from cover!
Michael Arck 4769	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:40:00 - [3] - Quote You probably right, although I haven't been watching the killfeed like I should. I notice CRs have dropped off the map in pubs. This is why I believe weapon balance is unachievable. Once you buff something, people flock to it. The victims want nerf, and the flock moves to something else. Hence the nerf/buff twilight zone we're in now. People will use whatever is more lethal to win, its just how the cookie crumbles. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 40	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:45:00 - [4] - Quote Every multiplayer game will have it's crown jewel, rail rifles being DUST514's. Most of my deaths are from rail rifles(second would be shotguns) because those rifles have good range, good damage falloff within its range, both assault and non assault variants are excellent, and even without proficiency skills its a good default rifle in my opinion.
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 396	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:51:00 - [5] - Quote Jotun Izalaru wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. Rail rifles are really good, but if there's a problem with them I'm gonna say it's their CQC viability. Not as good as CR but they're still really good while hipfiring which is a little weird. If you're getting killed from a hundred meters away, well, working as intended. Stop moving away from cover! That's one thing I do try to do. Stay in cover. However, there are some maps with overwatches that make it pretty impossible. Rail Riflers sit up on top of a building at 80 meters and just pick people off because no one can reach out that far except with another RR, Mass Driver, Plasma Cannon, or a Sniper Rifle. The CQC part is kind of the crazy thing. Most of my deaths come within 15-30 meters. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 396	Posted - 2014.06.20 23:53:00 - [6] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: Every multiplayer game will have it's crown jewel, rail rifles being DUST514's. Most of my deaths are from rail rifles(second would be shotguns) because those rifles have good range, good damage falloff within its range, both assault and non assault variants are excellent, and even without proficiency skills its a good default rifle in my opinion. Maybe rail rifles could do with a tweak or two(not a nerf), but rail rifles are awful in close combat, that is their achille's heel. I think the CQC is better than you give it credit for, as long as they get the drop and have time for it to wind up. If I get a drop on it, then it's game over I agree. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 229	Posted - 2014.06.21 00:02:00 - [7] - Quote I wonder if it is just be best rifle for the player. Do you see more caldari now that hotfix bravo buffed shields? Perhaps people are taking the Caldari suit out for a spin and the Rail Rifle, as it is the optimal weapon for caldari, and its just a coincidence? Python Pilot // Minmatar Assault
Tectonic Fusion 1744	Posted - 2014.06.21 00:04:00 - [8] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: I wonder if it is just be best rifle for the player. Do you see more caldari now that hotfix bravo buffed shields? Perhaps people are taking the Caldari suit out for a spin and the Rail Rifle, as it is the optimal weapon for caldari, and its just a coincidence? I use the Tac AR now.
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 396	Posted - 2014.06.21 00:05:00 - [9] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: I wonder if it is just be best rifle for the player. Do you see more caldari now that hotfix bravo buffed shields? Perhaps people are taking the Caldari suit out for a spin and the Rail Rifle, as it is the optimal weapon for caldari, and its just a coincidence? Cal Scouts because of their hitbox issues, yes, but I wouldn't say more so than normal, no. I run purely Caldari anyways so I don't really pay much attention to it I guess. That is a good theory though. I will have to start paying more attention to the suits that are killing me, not just the weapon. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 108	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:06:00 - [10] - Quote Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). what i think of when charging fg

Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 396	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:08:00 - [11] - Quote Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). Oh, like I said, I'm not trying to gripe or scream "nerf RR's" or anything. It is just one of those weird patterns I noticed. I will agree completely that we are getting as close to balanced as we've had in this game from what I see. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 109	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:17:00 - [12] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). Oh, like I said, I'm not trying to gripe or scream "nerf RR's" or anything. It is just one of those weird patterns I noticed. I will agree completely that we are getting as close to balanced as we've had in this game from what I see. No worries there dude, there was no QQ, so it was quite obvious this wasn't a nerf rant lol what i think of when charging fg
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 396	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:21:00 - [13] - Quote Mike De Luca wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). Oh, like I said, I'm not trying to gripe or scream "nerf RR's" or anything. It is just one of those weird patterns I noticed. I will agree completely that we are getting as close to balanced as we've had in this game from what I see. No worries there dude, there was no QQ, so it was quite obvious this wasn't a nerf rant lol O.K., so I've seen it and said it I don't know how many times on here, and I've never asked. What the F*** does QQ actually stand for? Quit Quafing? Quit Quiching? I have no clue. LOL Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 71	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:26:00 - [14] - Quote Jotun Izalaru wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. Rail rifles are really good, but if there's a problem with them I'm gonna say it's their CQC viability. Not as good as CR but they're still really good while hipfiring which is a little weird. If you're getting killed from a hundred meters away, well, working as intended. Stop moving away from cover! Its actually not weird, if you read the description of the weapon put out on the blog by ccp before its release. It, was described as being very accurate on hipfire, and also having the longest range. To say that a weapon is highly accurate at CQC is not the same as to say it is the best weapon AT cqc, and indeed if you are skilled at all it is not the best by far.
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 72	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:30:00 - [15] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). Oh, like I said, I'm not trying to gripe or scream "nerf RR's" or anything. It is just one of those weird patterns I noticed. I will agree completely that we are getting as close to balanced as we've had in this game from what I see. No worries there dude, there was no QQ, so it was quite obvious this wasn't a nerf rant lol O.K., so I've seen it and said it I don't know how many times on here, and I've never asked. What the F*** does QQ actually stand for? Quit Quafing? Quit Quiching? I have no clue. LOL You are too young to know, we 30 somethings invented most of the expression used online, from acronyms like lol, to faces like :) ..... QQ is indeed a face, not an acronym, its 2 eyes with tears coming out. :)
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 396	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:37:00 - [16] - Quote NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). Oh, like I said, I'm not trying to gripe or scream "nerf RR's" or anything. It is just one of those weird patterns I noticed. I will agree completely that we are getting as close to balanced as we've had in this game from what I see. No worries there dude, there was no QQ, so it was quite obvious this wasn't a nerf rant lol O.K., so I've seen it and said it I don't know how many times on here, and I've never asked. What the F*** does QQ actually stand for? Quit Quafing? Quit Quiching? I have no clue. LOL You are too young to know, we 30 somethings invented most of the expression used online, from acronyms like lol, to faces like :) ..... QQ is indeed a face, not an acronym, its 2 eyes with tears coming out. :) HAHA, that is hilarious. Thanks for clearing that up. It's been driving me freaking nuts. Oh, and BTW, I'm 34 bro. This is just the first "gaming" thread I've ever been a part of so I may not be as up to date as I should be. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 590	Posted - 2014.06.21 02:02:00 - [17] - Quote Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). You forgot the most common weapon... SG Yeah I haven't noticed any more RR than usual. I actually think most weapons are pretty balanced now. SMG Specialist
Powerh8er Ganking Jugend 451	Posted - 2014.06.21 02:25:00 - [18] - Quote Rail rifles are awesome. Wish i specced into it on my main so i could use on heavy suits.
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 109	Posted - 2014.06.21 02:29:00 - [19] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). You forgot the most common weapon... SG Yeah I haven't noticed any more RR than usual. I actually think most weapons are pretty balanced now. Eh, they kind of died down on all the matches I'm in lately, I think there's only been 1 or 2 today out of 7-8 matches what i think of when charging fg
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 397	Posted - 2014.06.21 02:40:00 - [20] - Quote Mike De Luca wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). You forgot the most common weapon... SG Yeah I haven't noticed any more RR than usual. I actually think most weapons are pretty balanced now. Eh, they kind of died down on all the matches I'm in lately, I think there's only been 1 or 2 today out of 7-8 matches In the mornings when I'm on, I still see quite a few Cloaked Shotgunners. Agreed, it's not as bad as before the Hotfixes, but they are still out there. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.

Tectonic Fusion 1746	Posted - 2014.06.21 03:09:00 - [21] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). You forgot the most common weapon... SG Yeah I haven't noticed any more RR than usual. I actually think most weapons are pretty balanced now. Eh, they kind of died down on all the matches I'm in lately, I think there's only been 1 or 2 today out of 7-8 matches In the mornings when I'm on, I still see quite a few Cloaked Shotgunners. Agreed, it's not as bad as before the Hotfixes, but they are still out there. But rifles are way more prevalent than the shotgun, which is not surprising since they are so much better than such a low range gun (it has low range for a shotgun).
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 110	Posted - 2014.06.21 03:20:00 - [22] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Boot Booter wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). You forgot the most common weapon... SG Yeah I haven't noticed any more RR than usual. I actually think most weapons are pretty balanced now. Eh, they kind of died down on all the matches I'm in lately, I think there's only been 1 or 2 today out of 7-8 matches In the mornings when I'm on, I still see quite a few Cloaked Shotgunners. Agreed, it's not as bad as before the Hotfixes, but they are still out there. But rifles are way more prevalent than the shotgun, which is not surprising since they are so much better than such a low range gun (it has low range for a shotgun). Indeed, most games will let a shotgun go to 10m at least what i think of when charging fg
deezy dabest Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers 660	Posted - 2014.06.22 15:05:00 - [23] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. I almost ranted about more OP whining but then re read. Quite a few people went to level 4 minimum when the RR was released just to use the assault rail rifle as it was the best variant at the time. With the CR finally getting brought back in line and balance being better than ever you are most likely just seeing people start to use that skill that they unlocked before, followed by the FoTM chasers thinking that is where everyone went. TL;DR FoTM chasers gonna chase and they just hopping on the band wagon they have no idea why it is there. Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 397	Posted - 2014.06.24 00:07:00 - [24] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. I almost ranted about more OP whining but then re read. Quite a few people went to level 4 minimum when the RR was released just to use the assault rail rifle as it was the best variant at the time. With the CR finally getting brought back in line and balance being better than ever you are most likely just seeing people start to use that skill that they unlocked before, followed by the FoTM chasers thinking that is where everyone went. TL;DR FoTM chasers gonna chase and they just hopping on the band wagon they have no idea why it is there. Well thanks for taking the time to re-read. It is greatly appreciated. Yeah, I haven't ever gone off about anything OP and whined complained so I'd like to try and keep that part of my reputation intact. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 896	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:24:00 - [25] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. There were some range changes for the rifles, this may be a factor. There are a couple maps where RR are king. Because, that's why.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 319	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:38:00 - [26] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: You probably right, although I haven't been watching the killfeed like I should. I notice CRs have dropped off the map in pubs. This is why I believe weapon balance is unachievable. Once you buff something, people flock to it. The victims want nerf, and the flock moves to something else. Hence the nerf/buff twilight zone we're in now. People will use whatever is more lethal to win, its just how the cookie crumbles. Whoa. Cr are not rare they are the main weapon that kills me it rof insane.... Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 126	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:56:00 - [27] - Quote Actually if short range isn't working (cloaked scout shotgun/RE) then a natural fall back to the rifle you are skilled in makes sense. So not necessarily adopting the FOTM but adaptation to current trends with current skills. Wait a couple of weeks to see where things go after people adapt to the current blitz of hot patches.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3344	Posted - 2014.06.24 05:44:00 - [28] - Quote NIETZCHES OVERMAN wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Mike De Luca wrote: Approximate order of what i see most often in killfeeds HMG CR/ACR Tank ADS RR SR AR ScR So yeah, might just be any randoms in your matches just happen to use rail rifles. I don't think they've hit FOTM yet though, like the other Mike said, 100% balance is unachievable, but this is probably as close as we'll get (just talking rifles). Oh, like I said, I'm not trying to gripe or scream "nerf RR's" or anything. It is just one of those weird patterns I noticed. I will agree completely that we are getting as close to balanced as we've had in this game from what I see. No worries there dude, there was no QQ, so it was quite obvious this wasn't a nerf rant lol O.K., so I've seen it and said it I don't know how many times on here, and I've never asked. What the F*** does QQ actually stand for? Quit Quafing? Quit Quiching? I have no clue. LOL You are too young to know, we 30 somethings invented most of the expression used online, from acronyms like lol, to faces like :) ..... QQ is indeed a face, not an acronym, its 2 eyes with tears coming out. :) puts on glasses Actually it's a hot key in WoW used to quit game So say a vet in a game pawn some new guys ass into the ground he'd say "Go QQ scrub" the fact that it looks like tears is just a coincidence.... And that's the daily vib from Nocturnal cya soon o7 Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 402	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:57:00 - [29] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: or does it seem that since the recent Hotfixes, Rail Rifles are the new FOTM? I know I'm getting killed by them a LOT more frequently since the two hotfixes and watching the kill thread, Rail Rifles are showing up all of the time. I would say that since the rail rifle buff (I believe that was Alpha) more than 50% of my deaths have been to rail rifles (including out to like 85-90 meters with pinpoint accuracy, but that's for a different thread). For the record, this is not a whine/complain session. I don't really care what I'm killed over and I'm not suggesting it's OP/needs nerfed/etc. I'm just wondering if I'm an anomaly or other people are seeing this as well. There were some range changes for the rifles, this may be a factor. There are a couple maps where RR are king. Yeah, agreed. any of the open area Dom matches tend to be spanked by RR's because they can get on a high point out of reach of most other weapons (outside of sniper rifles, which are almost pointless now) and just mow people down outside of everyone else's kill zone. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.


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