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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 678	Posted - 2014.06.20 17:31:00 - [1] - Quote Since rattatti said client updates are no longer impossible i would like to to set the agenda for what players expect from a new client update. expectatios 1. amar and minmatar vehicles 2. the rest of the racial heavy weapons suggestions 3. player trading
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 485	Posted - 2014.06.20 17:56:00 - [2] - Quote I have no more things to add to your list, but can you point us to where Rattati has said this?
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 680	Posted - 2014.06.20 18:06:00 - [3] - Quote i cant link stuff to well with the vita but its on the first page of the general discussion
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 485	Posted - 2014.06.20 19:24:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. OK, so essentially there's hope. Really, what we, as a player base, really need is: - Player Market - Racial Vehicles and Weapons (Amarr/Minmatar vehicles; Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons) - PVE Player Market is one of the more important ones, to be honest: the entire point of salvage is the supposed ability to sell it on and make additional profit from items you don't want, potentially lots more from Officer weapons. PVE is the most intensive and would likely be a lot of work for our remaining Devs, but I know that it would inject a metric fuckton of life into the game again. Rattati, I choose you!!
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3656	Posted - 2014.06.20 20:09:00 - [5] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: i cant link stuff to well with the vita but its on the third page of the general discussion, a thread titled So why must everything be server side?. CCP Rattati wrote: It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is. We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download. If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out. even though it been pasted, thats what i was on about in local yesterday. I will spam your face with aurum proto.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 683	Posted - 2014.06.20 20:20:00 - [6] - Quote pve and sandbox should go hand in hand but lets get these vehicles first
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3795	Posted - 2014.06.20 20:51:00 - [7] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Really, what we, as a player base, really need is: - Player Market - Racial Vehicles and Weapons (Amarr/Minmatar vehicles; Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons) - PVE Client side work is possible, but within reason. - PVE : Not going to happen in DUST 514. This would be a vast development process, and the PVE for Legion will not be optimized for use in DUST. - Player Market: This is very needed, and might be doable. At the very least we should have the ability to sell salvage back to the NPC market. But Player to Player within DUST would be much better. - Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons I feel is the top content priority. - Amarr/Minmatar vehicles would be the next highest priority, and would add a lot more variety to the vehicle landscape. (I really want to fly the Minmatar Dropship!) I would expect Heavy Weapons and Vehicles to be in separate content patches, as they need the same resources (staff) to produce the art assets. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3795	Posted - 2014.06.20 20:57:00 - [8] - Quote Here is a link to the post referenced by the OP. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 486	Posted - 2014.06.20 20:58:00 - [9] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Client side work is possible, but within reason. - PVE : Not going to happen in DUST 514. This would be a vast development process, and the PVE for Legion will not be optimized for use in DUST. - Player Market: This is very needed, and might be doable. At the very least we should have the ability to sell salvage back to the NPC market. But Player to Player within DUST would be much better. - Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons I feel is the top content priority. - Amarr/Minmatar vehicles would be the next highest priority, and would add a lot more variety to the vehicle landscape. (I really want to fly the Minmatar Dropship!) I would expect Heavy Weapons and Vehicles to be in separate content patches, as they need the same resources (staff) to produce the art assets. PVE is more of a, "Should be the biggest priority, but the others are much more achievable." Player market and the missing assets I agree are the most important, due to being reasonably achievable.
Amuf Oratok Maphia Clan Corporation 17	Posted - 2014.06.20 21:01:00 - [10] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Really, what we, as a player base, really need is: - Player Market - Racial Vehicles and Weapons (Amarr/Minmatar vehicles; Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons) - PVE Client side work is possible, but within reason. - PVE : Not going to happen in DUST 514. This would be a vast development process, and the PVE for Legion will not be optimized for use in DUST. - Player Market: This is very needed, and might be doable. At the very least we should have the ability to sell salvage back to the NPC market. But Player to Player within DUST would be much better. - Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons I feel is the top content priority. - Amarr/Minmatar vehicles would be the next highest priority, and would add a lot more variety to the vehicle landscape. (I really want to fly the Minmatar Dropship!) I would expect Heavy Weapons and Vehicles to be in separate content patches, as they need the same resources (staff) to produce the art assets. I agree, PVE is impossible to have. A training room on the other hand is doable... Minmatar are able to build dropships? Do they know it? YOLAAC: You Only Live As A Clone Die and Rise
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 684	Posted - 2014.06.20 21:43:00 - [11] - Quote PVE is not impossible before the official launch there were video clips of drones its was before legion was even a thing a market should not be a priority untill a sandbox and pve have been implemented, p2p trading though should be considered for 1.9 after the racial vehicles and heavy weapons have been deemed ready to implement
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 273	Posted - 2014.06.20 21:48:00 - [12] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Since rattatti said client updates are no longer impossible i would like to to set the agenda for what players expect from a new client update. expectatios 1. amar and minmatar vehicles 2. the rest of the racial heavy weapons suggestions 3. player trading Two modes of ambush with Extra isk and salvage for braving Ambush OMS iTS RISK VS REWARD BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3797	Posted - 2014.06.20 21:49:00 - [13] - Quote Amuf Oratok wrote: Minmatar are able to build dropships? Do they know it? Shown Here. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14721	Posted - 2014.06.20 21:51:00 - [14] - Quote Asking for a load more weapons, twice the number of vehicles, a player market, and PvE is so ludicrously unrealistic I'm not sure what to say. Client updates not being out of the question doesn't mean that the handful of devs still working on DUST will magically produce more than the entire dev team has been capable of doing in the past 2 years. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3797	Posted - 2014.06.20 22:00:00 - [15] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: PVE is not impossible before the official launch there were video clips of drones its was before legion was even a thing That is a good point. If those art assets are still functional, and they can add the AI they develop for Legion, they may be able to produce some form of PVE in DUST on the cheap. DonGÇÖt expect it in the next six months though. Give them time to get the drone behavior worked out in Legion first. Remember, anything developed exclusively for DUST takes resources away from Legion Development. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 487	Posted - 2014.06.20 22:24:00 - [16] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Remember, anything developed exclusively for DUST takes resources away from Legion Development. Erm... good! Legion shouldn't be happening.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 685	Posted - 2014.06.20 22:50:00 - [17] - Quote i do not entertain the notion of legion, those devs should stop working on legion as a seprate game and make it a ps4 expansion for dust, and dust should take priority over legion for the next 2 years bare minimum, legion is a waste of resources and its killing the game we already have. My op says nothing about pve or a market and this thread is not the place to discuss those things nor is it the place to discuss legion so take that crap somewhere else and stay on topic RACIAL VEHICLES AND HEAVY WAPONS AND POSSIBLY P2P TRADING THAT IS WHAT WEARE DISCUSSING HERE NOT PVE OR A MARKET
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 444	Posted - 2014.06.21 01:11:00 - [18] - Quote I thought CCP can't add any more new content, only bug fixes and tweaks.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3528	Posted - 2014.06.21 03:13:00 - [19] - Quote I love how he says "don't want to bother the player base" with downloading the client. Like, I've been begging for Amarr AV and heavy weapons for like A YEAR, but man, I have to download a new client? What a hassle, never mind. Who thinks that way? (The godfather of tactical logistics) Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 686	Posted - 2014.06.21 04:02:00 - [20] - Quote yeah making us redownload the client for new content is hardly bothering the playerbase, if anything the playerbase is bothering the devs to get on the ball with finishing the content.
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 64	Posted - 2014.06.21 04:17:00 - [21] - Quote alll in legion just expect buff and nerf on ratti thats it
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1903	Posted - 2014.06.21 04:17:00 - [22] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Really, what we, as a player base, really need is: - Player Market - Racial Vehicles and Weapons (Amarr/Minmatar vehicles; Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons) - PVE Client side work is possible, but within reason. - PVE : Not going to happen in DUST 514. This would be a vast development process, and the PVE for Legion will not be optimized for use in DUST. - Player Market: This is very needed, and might be doable. At the very least we should have the ability to sell salvage back to the NPC market. But Player to Player within DUST would be much better. - Gallente/Amarr heavy weapons I feel is the top content priority. - Amarr/Minmatar vehicles would be the next highest priority, and would add a lot more variety to the vehicle landscape. (I really want to fly the Minmatar Dropship!) I would expect Heavy Weapons and Vehicles to be in separate content patches, as they need the same resources (staff) to produce the art assets. I'd add fighters and MAVs to give vehicles a much more finished look, though I'd put them fourth after Gal/Amarr heavy weapons, Amarr/Min vehicles, and player market in terms of feasibility of being doable. Unfortunately I agree with your statement on PVE. Though I'd say that chances would be pretty small of PVE making it into Dust. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32 -- "Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 687	Posted - 2014.06.21 04:34:00 - [23] - Quote dont get off topic, RACIAL VEHICLES AND HEAVY WAPONS
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 0	Posted - 2014.07.04 17:51:00 - [24] - Quote Player Market should take priority, all the other details can wait, but the Market is a must have, I've got a lot of un-usable equipment that I need to clear out and the only way to do that is with the Player Market, aka Player Exchange Center, so please try to make it happen I've spent money on this game don't ruin this for the gamers

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