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NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 450	Posted - 2014.06.17 09:47:00 - [1] - Quote Complex plates need a buff in hp to have a greater gain from the advanced but to keep it balanced increase the fitting cost , This would be a nice way for heavies to use up essesive fittings that the suit has as well as make it harder for ligher frames to tank as much hp, plates should scale up in hp more similar to shield extenders but cost more fittings Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 305	Posted - 2014.06.17 10:09:00 - [2] - Quote Considering armour has already been changed recently and is still superior to shield mods, increasing HP on complex is a bad idea. Even if you increase fitting costs, plenty of my suits have CPU/PG to spare. We need shield tank to be as viable as armour before anymore changes are introduced.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 353	Posted - 2014.06.17 11:06:00 - [3] - Quote and make heavies defently impossible to kill? umm no. the gallente sential can achiev 1000+ armour at basic and the amarr sentinel around the 850-900 mark. increasing complex plates would bring too high an imbalance not only to heavies but any suit rocking complex plates (looking at you brick tanked scout). so no just leave the complex armour plates..actually armour plates as a whole where they are. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6060	Posted - 2014.06.17 11:49:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah sadly with the way things are shields have to be reworked first before we look at fixing armor anymore. Even though shield users will still cry that their shielding can not tank as much as armor. (which surprisingly was a problem in the very early days of dust) A moment of silence is not enough. For their crimes, we must make the Caldari silence permanent.
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2014.06.17 11:58:00 - [5] - Quote Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 836	Posted - 2014.06.17 12:07:00 - [6] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. 22 33 66 We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3939	Posted - 2014.06.17 12:14:00 - [7] - Quote WTF is Shield? Oh yeah, that other HP bar that's always empty.... PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6061	Posted - 2014.06.17 12:36:00 - [8] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. This is exactly what I'm talking about. A moment of silence is not enough. For their crimes, we must make the Caldari silence permanent.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1962	Posted - 2014.06.17 12:43:00 - [9] - Quote Obvious Heavy is obvious (and Heavy). Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 448	Posted - 2014.06.17 13:40:00 - [10] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. 85, 110, 135 for plates 22,33,66 for extenders It's not comparable but bear in mind armor doesn't self recharge. While armor has more sources of regeneration, shields can't have comparable hp. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.

NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 450	Posted - 2014.06.17 13:58:00 - [11] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Victor889 wrote: Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. 85, 110, 135 for plates 22,33,66 for extenders It's not comparable but bear in mind armor doesn't self recharge. While armor has more sources of regeneration, shields can't have comparable hp. Exactly , and to all the nay sayers im also open to the idea of extenders getting buffed Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 450	Posted - 2014.06.17 14:00:00 - [12] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: WTF is Shield? Oh yeah, that other HP bar that's always empty.... Throw on a energize and a regulator Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3586	Posted - 2014.06.17 14:03:00 - [13] - Quote ew, complex plates. My Amarr Assault has recently been enlightened to the wonders of Ferroscale. So he fits two. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1866	Posted - 2014.06.17 14:06:00 - [14] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: and make heavies defently impossible to kill? umm no. the gallente sential can achiev 1000+ armour at basic and the amarr sentinel around the 850-900 mark. increasing complex plates would bring too high an imbalance not only to heavies but any suit rocking complex plates (looking at you brick tanked scout). so no just leave the complex armour plates..actually armour plates as a whole where they are. Yesterday I came across (and got killed) by an Amarr sentinel with over 1100 armor... "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 451	Posted - 2014.06.17 15:54:00 - [15] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: and make heavies defently impossible to kill? umm no. the gallente sential can achiev 1000+ armour at basic and the amarr sentinel around the 850-900 mark. increasing complex plates would bring too high an imbalance not only to heavies but any suit rocking complex plates (looking at you brick tanked scout). so no just leave the complex armour plates..actually armour plates as a whole where they are. Yesterday I came across (and got killed) by an Amarr sentinel with over 1100 armor... I have seen gal logi's with close to 1000 and just think they get(i think ->)three highs to fiddle with too, but they have one more low than the sent. , if the complex plate cost More fittings and gave more hp it would help balance tanking and make wearing them more of a commitment to hp than other things like dmg or equipment to stay even with shields you could raise complex equally or something similar Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9554	Posted - 2014.06.17 16:20:00 - [16] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Yeah sadly with the way things are shields have to be reworked first before we look at fixing armor anymore. Even though shield users will still cry that their shielding can not tank as much as armor. (which surprisingly was a problem in the very early days of dust) Don't remember anyone complaining about not being able to tank as much as armor users? Do you have an actual link to quotes or is this simply fallacious drivel spouted in an attempt to gain likes? Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical. Proud defender of Ishukone Corporation. -HAND
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 120	Posted - 2014.06.17 16:34:00 - [17] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. Like somebody said before: 1) Shields are self-recharging, 2) Shields are not made for tank, 3) Shields don't have move penalty, 4) Armor plates are made for tank, 5) Armor plates got move penalty, Everybody got choice, You can play shield type class wich is fast, low ehp or You can play armor class, slow but stuffed with ehp. It will be way OP if shielders get same ehp amount as armored ones. If it goes Your way armor shouldn't have any penalty at all.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3332	Posted - 2014.06.17 17:04:00 - [18] - Quote Hp mod just need to change to % base to stop the whining already. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
deezy dabest Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers 611	Posted - 2014.06.17 17:20:00 - [19] - Quote Victor889 wrote: Shields - SHEILDS need a buff, why can't they have similar increases like Armour? Basic - 65 Enhanced 85 Proto 135 (I think?) same for shields as opposed to Basic - 22!? Advanced - 40something Proto - 60.. Shield modules should be % based instead of HP based. This would make shield tanking viable on shield based suits and make dual tanking much more difficult. Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 3847	Posted - 2014.06.17 17:40:00 - [20] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Yeah sadly with the way things are shields have to be reworked first before we look at fixing armor anymore. Even though shield users will still cry that their shielding can not tank as much as armor. (which surprisingly was a problem in the very early days of dust) How early? What I remember from Replication through codex was that no one used armor because being slowed down sucked and repair stuff sucked to use to regen. I think it was just that shields were super mobile especially on the Type II suits which had equal health to the Type I but was just faster and shield heavier. Also regen stats were much higher back then if I remember.... Ah the B Series Caldari Assault I will miss you and so will my Mass Driver antics.... When they reminisce over you I'm not resting in peace but rather wandering as a zombie in vengeance of no good reason

Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation 570	Posted - 2014.06.17 17:59:00 - [21] - Quote I armor tank only. Armor plates are fine as they are (only change i would do is make reactive plates rep 1-2-3 hp/s at std/adv/pro level). Basic and advanced shield extenders will be buffed in hotfix beta.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2013	Posted - 2014.06.17 18:31:00 - [22] - Quote I really don't support armor plates receiving an HP buff, complex plates are very worthwhile... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Tectonic Fusion 1701	Posted - 2014.06.17 18:45:00 - [23] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Yeah sadly with the way things are shields have to be reworked first before we look at fixing armor anymore. Even though shield users will still cry that their shielding can not tank as much as armor. (which surprisingly was a problem in the very early days of dust) How early? What I remember from Replication through codex was that no one used armor because being slowed down sucked and repair stuff sucked to use to regen. I think it was just that shields were super mobile especially on the Type II suits which had equal health to the Type I but was just faster and shield heavier. Also regen stats were much higher back then if I remember.... Ah the B Series Caldari Assault I will miss you and so will my Mass Driver antics.... When they reminisce over you THE NOSTALGIA!!!
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 910	Posted - 2014.06.17 18:54:00 - [24] - Quote While a complex armour plate buff would aid some of my suits greatly (they even have resources to spare for an CPU/PG increase), I am against it. My G/1-series Gal Sentinel can pop on three Complex plates and get ~1100 armour, and have ample room to spare for everything else. Increasing both HP and CPU/PG would only mean that I have to either: downgrade weapons; sacrifice a grenade; sacrifice the high slot; or perhaps mix and match the previous. Although I may have had to sacrifice in some relatively insignificant way, I gain quite a bit more HP for which my innate resistances to protect. Other smaller suits would benefit less than the heavy, due to more limited resources, so they'd have to sacrifice more. I think total armour HP values are fine. Some more tweaking in other aspects may be necessary, though. I am a minotaur.
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 817	Posted - 2014.06.17 19:36:00 - [25] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: and make heavies defently impossible to kill? umm no. the gallente essential can achieve 1000+ armour at basic and the amarr sentinel around the 850-900 mark. increasing complex plates would bring too high an imbalance not only to heavies but any suit rocking complex plates (looking at you brick tanked scout). so no just leave the complex armour plates..actually armour plates as a whole where they are. the std gal sentinal can only achieve 953 armor. so u are wrong about having of 1k there. the adv can achieve 1102(some where around that.) but still super slow. and wont survive long with out a logi. the proto gal heavies total tank ability. welll its just one complex plate higher with the same weaknesses. but still if u were the 1st to engage the plate stacked heavy in his own optimal. shouldnt u also die once uve ran up right in front of his gun? which is fireing. directly at u. though the next guy on the other hand. if uve managed to get any decent damage in the next guy will surely have a much better chance at winning. dust 514 shall be eternal. pve for dust 514. dont worry my logis. i will protect u. unless its a scout. itd be too late
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6065	Posted - 2014.06.17 19:38:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Yeah sadly with the way things are shields have to be reworked first before we look at fixing armor anymore. Even though shield users will still cry that their shielding can not tank as much as armor. (which surprisingly was a problem in the very early days of dust) Don't remember anyone complaining about not being able to tank as much as armor users? Do you have an actual link to quotes or is this simply fallacious drivel spouted in an attempt to gain likes? yep, it existed. Many moons ago the threads are so old most of the post only say "veteran community" but there were cries to make shields and armor equal. I suggest you watch your mouth pleb, I have no need to create lies but I've been here long enough to see many idiot threads regarding shields and I will not bring sort through and find the post, especially for someone having a disrespectful tone. A moment of silence is not enough. For their crimes, we must make the Caldari silence permanent.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6065	Posted - 2014.06.17 19:43:00 - [27] - Quote Double post A moment of silence is not enough. For their crimes, we must make the Caldari silence permanent.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3944	Posted - 2014.06.17 21:14:00 - [28] - Quote NoxMort3m wrote: Rynoceros wrote: WTF is Shield? Oh yeah, that other HP bar that's always empty.... Throw on a energize and a regulator You people with your multiple High Slots say some funny ****. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 452	Posted - 2014.06.19 20:18:00 - [29] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: NoxMort3m wrote: Rynoceros wrote: WTF is Shield? Oh yeah, that other HP bar that's always empty.... Throw on a energize and a regulator You people with your multiple High Slots say some funny ****. Ikr Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 452	Posted - 2014.06.19 20:21:00 - [30] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I really don't support armor plates receiving an HP buff, complex plates are very worthwhile... Bo they are not, they are barely higher hp than the enhanced but near double the speed penalty and cost Director:Diplomat Search DL514 to apply



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