DUST Search - Amarr Assault - Extra Low Slot, Extra Fitting?

RedPencil wrote:

Floyd20 Azizora wrote:

you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level.

Do you know that SR is PG intensive and will always leave you with little to no PG to fit any other module you wanted? Here, acknowledge by Rattati.

CCP Rattati wrote:

One step at a time. The SR is very hard to fit, even with PG reduction. Just enjoy it if gives Amarr a boost.

saving 7pg off the sr is a big deal, almost pays for a plate. cpu yes is a problem.

Floyd20 Azizora wrote:

imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu.
i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level?

Imagine Cal or Gal assaults have lost 1 slot with current CPU and PG, it is a current Amarr assault situation. If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module, I want to see your fit and your skill. I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and made to fit proto module because I have only 88PG

you would see cal and gal assaults running more proto gear, and who said i ever used all proto gear? never used proto plates(were useless most of the time i used the suit much) most of the armor, half the drawbacks. plus damage mods are useful for high alpha weapons, even now.

Floyd20 Azizora wrote:

well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason)
try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level.
just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg.

It doesn't has much difference even him swap proto shield extenders to Complex DMG (2PG difference). Please be realistic, do not assume that everyone have all skill lv5. Many people still have SP below 24M.

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Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:25:00 - [1] - Quote Giving the Amarr assault an extra low slot is great and all but what's the point if I can't utilize it? All of my fits (STD-PRO) are really tight on fitting and I just can't fit an extra module. I don't consider something a buff if it's unusable. Is there consideration to buffing the base fitting resources? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2507	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:30:00 - [2] - Quote Not in Bravo, but enjoy the slot, there must be a way to squeeze something into it. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 51	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:32:00 - [3] - Quote you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:35:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Not in Bravo, but enjoy the slot, there must be a way to squeeze something into it. I'm literally utilizing every single ounce of PG that I got. I actually would've been more fine with just swapping a high for a low slot. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:37:00 - [5] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level. The laser rifle still has a lot of fitting requirements though, and that's the only light weapon I use now. So, in addition to using advanced weapons and equipment with a basic locus, I also must downgrade some of my complex modules to enhanced on my PROTO suit? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 51	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:42:00 - [6] - Quote imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu. i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level?
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:48:00 - [7] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu. i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level? Their weapons also cost less to fit. I currently don't have any issues fitting all complex modules with the only changes from suit to suit being weapons and equipment tiers. I have core upgrades to 4, engineering to 4, and electronics soon-to-be 4. The only changes I'll get with upgrading the skill are changing out a complex armor plate and enhanced shield extender for a complex ferroscale and complex extender on my advanced suit and a standard nanohive and enhanced extender for a compact nanohive and a complex extender on my standard suit. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 51	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:52:00 - [8] - Quote in terms of cpu maybe, but not in pg terms. just messing around in protofits, what have you fitted to be maxxing it out?
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:01:00 - [9] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: in terms of cpu maybe, but not in pg terms. just messing around in protofits, what have you fitted to be maxxing it out? My fits currently (or soon-to-be): STD suit: STD: laser rifle, SMG, compact nanohive, locus grenade PRO: shield extender x2, armor rep ADV suit: STD: locus grenade ADV: laser rifle, assault SMG, K-2 nanohive PRO: armor rep, ferroscale plate, shield extender x2 PRO suit: STD: locus grenade ADV: laser rifle, assault SMG, K-2 nanohive PRO: armor rep x2, armor/ferroscale plate, shield extender x3 I think that adding one more low without adjusting fitting resources is just a slap to the face. You can use complex modules now? Cool, now you can't in Bravo. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3339	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:09:00 - [10] - Quote You have the most CPU/PG if any assault. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 51	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:12:00 - [11] - Quote well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason) try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level. just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:22:00 - [12] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason) try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level. just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. But the thing is that I already make sacrifices to fit the complex modules I want. On my standard suit, I have to use the compact hive. On my advanced suit, I have to stick with standard grenades and using a less resource intensive plate (ferroscale), otherwise I'm stuck with an enhanced shield extender if I keep the regular plate. And then the difference between my advanced and proto suit is just two complex modules. No proto weapons, no proto hives, and I'm still just using standard locus grenades. And that's 87/87 PG for me. I think that I should surely be able to fit all complex modules on the proto suit considering that I use advanced weapons and hives and a standard locus. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 51	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:38:00 - [13] - Quote most proto suits have this issue, the amarr medium is in one of the best places in terms of cpu and pg. basic suits ain't meant to be full of proto gear, the othert assault suits would have to not use equipment or grenade slot to get 2 complex shield extenders and 2 guns. plus 2 enhanced armor reps cost less pg then now, for more benefit. your compact hive reps armor, so you could use something with less pg needs, like a reactive or ferrascale plate. you could put a pg upgrade in your last slot and upgrade your laser rifle if you wanted. damage mods use less cpu and pg, and has some value on a laser rifle.
RedPencil DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:38:00 - [14] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level. Do you know that SR is PG intensive and will always leave you with little to no PG to fit any other module you wanted? Here, acknowledge by Rattati. CCP Rattati wrote: One step at a time. The SR is very hard to fit, even with PG reduction. Just enjoy it if gives Amarr a boost. Floyd20 Azizora wrote: imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu. i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level? Imagine Cal or Gal assaults have lost 1 slot with current CPU and PG, it is a current Amarr assault situation. If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module, I want to see your fit and your skill. I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and nade to fit proto module because I have only 88PG Floyd20 Azizora wrote: well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason) try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level. just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. It doesn't has much difference even him swap proto shield extenders to Complex DMG (2PG difference). Please be realistic, do not assume that everyone have all skill lv5. Many people still have SP below 24M.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14396	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:44:00 - [15] - Quote If you're struggling for PG on an Amarr assault you're doing something insane with it. I'm fitting a proto SCR and complex tanking modules on mine and it fits happily. An extra slot would be a huge boon, and it doesn't need more resources to utilise it. It already has the most PG/CPU of any assault - especially as SCR fitting costs are being reduced and those are really the only reason you might have fitting trouble on the Amarr assault (but even then...) You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 51	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:47:00 - [16] - Quote RedPencil wrote: Floyd20 Azizora wrote: you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level. Do you know that SR is PG intensive and will always leave you with little to no PG to fit any other module you wanted? Here, acknowledge by Rattati. CCP Rattati wrote: One step at a time. The SR is very hard to fit, even with PG reduction. Just enjoy it if gives Amarr a boost. saving 7pg off the sr is a big deal, almost pays for a plate. cpu yes is a problem. Floyd20 Azizora wrote: imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu. i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level? Imagine Cal or Gal assaults have lost 1 slot with current CPU and PG, it is a current Amarr assault situation. If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module, I want to see your fit and your skill. I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and made to fit proto module because I have only 88PG you would see cal and gal assaults running more proto gear, and who said i ever used all proto gear? never used proto plates(were useless most of the time i used the suit much) most of the armor, half the drawbacks. plus damage mods are useful for high alpha weapons, even now. Floyd20 Azizora wrote: well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason) try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level. just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. It doesn't has much difference even him swap proto shield extenders to Complex DMG (2PG difference). Please be realistic, do not assume that everyone have all skill lv5. Many people still have SP below 24M. my sp is just approaching 24 mil, this experience comes from when i had 10-15m (roughly). i was talkiing about using non proto shield extenders, or basic damage mods, maybe a precision enchancer(can see mediums on the other side of a wall with even a low level one) plus 2pg each can be very useful when reaching the limit. plus it would make your basic suit cheaper.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14396	Posted - 2014.06.11 18:57:00 - [17] - Quote RedPencil wrote: Do you know that SR is PG intensive and will always leave you with little to no PG to fit any other module you wanted? I know that's PG intensive. "Little to no PG" is a huge exaggeration, though. It's also getting a reduction anyway. Quote: Imagine Cal or Gal assaults have lost 1 slot with current CPU and PG, it is a current Amarr assault situation. If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module, I want to see your fit and your skill. I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and nade to fit proto module because I have only 88PG If Cal/Gal assaults had lost 1 slot, they would be worse off than the Amarr assault because they have less fitting resources anyway. Full proto Ak.0 fit? Here: Viziam Scrambler Rifle M209 Assault SMG Core Locus Grenade Complex Shield Extender x3 Enhanced Armour Plate x2 Complex Armour Repairer x1 Ishukone Gauged Nanohive Engineering/Electronics 5. Fits quite comfortably - there's a bucketload of CPU left over and a few PG points. That's proto gear in almost every slot. If you think it's a problem that it can't fit it in every slot then that's a problem with your thinking - no assault can fit absolutely full proto in every slot. This one, of all of them, can get damn close though. With the upcoming ScR buff it'll be almost possible to get full proto. Quote: It doesn't has much difference even him swap proto shield extenders to Complex DMG (2PG difference). Please be realistic, do not assume that everyone have all skill lv5. Many people still have SP below 24M. Floyd's suggested fit would work even if you didn't have all level 5 skills because it fits -very- comfortably. You could do it with probably electronics 1 or 2, and engineering... 3? Maybe 4. If your core fitting skills are below 3 you have no business being in a protosuit and complaining about the fitting resources. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
RedPencil DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2014.06.11 19:25:00 - [18] - Quote Floyd20 Azizora wrote: who said i ever used all proto gear? Sorry, I made a stupid assumption same way as Arkena Wyrnspire did to me. Thay why I asked "If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14398	Posted - 2014.06.11 19:40:00 - [19] - Quote RedPencil wrote: Floyd20 Azizora wrote: who said i ever used all proto gear? Sorry, I made a stupid assumption same way as Arkena Wyrnspire did to me. Thay why I asked "If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module" I made a 'stupid assumption'? Where? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
RedPencil DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2014.06.11 19:41:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: RedPencil wrote: Do you know that SR is PG intensive and will always leave you with little to no PG to fit any other module you wanted? I know that's PG intensive. "Little to no PG" is a huge exaggeration, though. It's also getting a reduction anyway. Quote: Imagine Cal or Gal assaults have lost 1 slot with current CPU and PG, it is a current Amarr assault situation. If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module, I want to see your fit and your skill. I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and nade to fit proto module because I have only 88PG If Cal/Gal assaults had lost 1 slot, they would be worse off than the Amarr assault because they have less fitting resources anyway. Full proto Ak.0 fit? Here: Viziam Scrambler Rifle M209 Assault SMG Core Locus Grenade Complex Shield Extender x3 Enhanced Armour Plate x2 Complex Armour Repairer x1 Ishukone Gauged Nanohive Engineering/Electronics 5. Fits quite comfortably - there's a bucketload of CPU left over and a few PG points. That's proto gear in almost every slot. If you think it's a problem that it can't fit it in every slot then that's a problem with your thinking - no assault can fit absolutely full proto in every slot. This one, of all of them, can get damn close though. With the upcoming ScR buff it'll be almost possible to get full proto. Quote: It doesn't has much difference even him swap proto shield extenders to Complex DMG (2PG difference). Please be realistic, do not assume that everyone have all skill lv5. Many people still have SP below 24M. Floyd's suggested fit would work even if you didn't have all level 5 skills because it fits -very- comfortably. You could do it with probably electronics 1 or 2, and engineering... 3? Maybe 4. If your core fitting skills are below 3 you have no business being in a protosuit and complaining about the fitting resources. 1) I heard they would reduce only the STD PG, where did you get that info? 2) I don't have any augment about CPU. But here is my fit Ak.0: Viziam SR SP locus nade Complex Shield Ex x3 Complex Armour Complex Ferros Complex Armour Repairer x1 Templar uplink Have only 1pg left and who said i want to run all proto gear? 3) I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and nade to fit proto module because I have only 88PG. This is what I post earlier if you blind.

Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 57	Posted - 2014.06.11 19:44:00 - [21] - Quote https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dRIiqkQK4S1_NmisVxjvaBgrEtMcX-D8qz0cR4d_fV4/edit#gid=623974805 here is where everything currently being considered for 1.8 is. pro sr will go down to 13pg if this goes through. 2 enhanced armor reps give more armor, and cost just under half the pg. problem solved for everyone with complex armor rep and pg worries.
RedPencil DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2014.06.11 19:51:00 - [22] - Quote Awesome, I miss that page and no any other argue about the fit. That 6PG reduce on Adv is what we need for the extra slot EDIT: I which CCP Rattati edit his sticky post when he add a link, sometime it hard to find in the middle of the thread.
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 58	Posted - 2014.06.11 20:42:00 - [23] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Floyd20 Azizora wrote: well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason) try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level. just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. But the thing is that I already make sacrifices to fit the complex modules I want. On my standard suit, I have to use the compact hive. On my advanced suit, I have to stick with standard grenades and using a less resource intensive plate (ferroscale), otherwise I'm stuck with an enhanced shield extender if I keep the regular plate. And then the difference between my advanced and proto suit is just two complex modules. No proto weapons, no proto hives, and I'm still just using standard locus grenades. And that's 87/87 PG for me. I think that I should surely be able to fit all complex modules on the proto suit considering that I use advanced weapons and hives and a standard locus. just noticed something about your advanced suit. difference between ferroscale and regular plates is bigger then complex and enhanced extenders. switch them 2 round, get more hp, look more like an armor tank.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14400	Posted - 2014.06.11 21:33:00 - [24] - Quote RedPencil wrote: 1) I heard they would reduce only the STD PG, where did you get that info? Answered by Floyd. Quote: 2) I don't have any augment about CPU. But here is my fit Ak.0: Viziam SR SP locus nade Complex Shield Ex x3 Complex Armour Complex Ferros Complex Armour Repairer x1 Templar uplink Have only 1pg left and who said i want to run all proto gear? 3) I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and nade to fit proto module because I have only 88PG. This is what I post earlier if you blind. By 'augment' you mean you don't have any CPU problems? "who said i want to run all proto gear?" By fitting all proto modules and the complaining you have to fit non-proto sidearm/grenades you are very much implying you want to run full proto. Some advice on your fitting - Complex armour plates are not worth fitting. By changing that to an enhanced armour plate you get a load more PG back - enough to upgrade your sidearm. It'll also reduce your movement penalty - for the cost of about 20 HP. That's less than one bullet's difference, typically. There'll be no effective difference. By not fitting complex plates I'm able to proto everything else on the fit with so much ease that you won't even need maxed core skills to fit things. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
RedPencil DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2014.06.11 22:39:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By 'augment' you mean you don't have any CPU problems? "who said i want to run all proto gear?" By fitting all proto modules and the complaining you have to fit non-proto sidearm/grenades you are very much implying you want to run full proto. Some advice on your fitting - Complex armour plates are not worth fitting. By changing that to an enhanced armour plate you get a load more PG back - enough to upgrade your sidearm. It'll also reduce your movement penalty - for the cost of about 20 HP. That's less than one bullet's difference, typically. There'll be no effective difference. By not fitting complex plates I'm able to proto everything else on the fit with so much ease that you won't even need maxed core skills to fit things. 'augment' => argument. Auto-correct mistake. This is wrong assumption, full pro to will require a lot more PG and why bother My fit is fine, I used to fit 2 enhanced armor but adopt new fit after alpha fix. 20HP don't worth 3% speed pen. If I want to upgrade, I will go with proto uplink. Will you fit hand-to-hand in state? I didn't ask for a huge buff and PG reduce on SR would be it. "So don't bother keep it any longer."
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3659	Posted - 2014.06.12 01:01:00 - [26] - Quote I have max skills and my Amarr Assault would greatly benefit from the extra low slot. While yes my PG is maxed out, I am using a Viziam SCR and the Six Kin SMG, along with both a complex plate and a complex ferroscale. I do have an extra 50 CPU, and the 7 PG I'll get from the SCR PG reduction will allow me to fit almost whatever I want in that low slot. I'm just excited to finally have about 600 armor and a sprint speed above 6.5 while still managing an armor rep. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4194	Posted - 2014.06.12 02:02:00 - [27] - Quote My fit Proto scram rifle proto ass smg proto nanohives proto damage mod x2 proto shield extender proto armor plate proto armor rep adv armor plate adv flux grenade Not sure how people are having PG/CPU problems on the amarr assault... Viktor for CPM I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 50Mil SP) Chat Channel: Vik PC
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3472	Posted - 2014.06.12 02:42:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: If you're struggling for PG on an Amarr assault you're doing something insane with it. I'm fitting a proto SCR and complex tanking modules on mine and it fits happily. An extra slot would be a huge boon, and it doesn't need more resources to utilise it. It already has the most PG/CPU of any assault - especially as SCR fitting costs are being reduced and those are really the only reason you might have fitting trouble on the Amarr assault (but even then...) I've currently got mine fit with this setup: 3x Complex Extender 2x Enhanced Ferroscale 1x Complex Armour Repairer 1x Viziam ScR 1x Viziam ScP 1x Core Locus 1x Allotek (R) Nanohive There is no other suit in the game that can fit that spread of items except logistics suits. This is the fitting I'll have in Bravo. Only with another Complex Armour Repairer. The only sacrificed I've made are my Nanohive (now an X-3) and my sidearm (which is an SMG because they're harder to fit; basically a placeholder for testing). And my ScR is vastly harder to fit than the LR. CPU is the same, but currently it consumes what, double the PG? Even post-buff it'll be harder. I think you need to work on your cores, Harpy. CCP Rattati Best Dev Sorry, Blowout...
The Eristic Dust 90210 466	Posted - 2014.06.12 03:05:00 - [29] - Quote (Copied from Crowdsourcing thread): Please consider 2-5 for proto Amarr Assault, rather than 3-4. Need to be able to slam that armor and/or still have room for a rep (or go for maximum brick), and putting shields on it is the debil anyway. Much like the issue with Gal vs Amarr Scout, having the same slot layout as proto Gal Assault puts the Gal at advantage for bricking, trading only a minimal loss in HP for higher base speed + built-in reps. Also, the Amarr Starter/Mil fit doesn't need two highs. Flip them to two lows? Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2550	Posted - 2014.06.12 03:24:00 - [30] - Quote The Eristic wrote: (Copied from Crowdsourcing thread): Please consider 2-5 for proto Amarr Assault, rather than 3-4. Need to be able to slam that armor and/or still have room for a rep (or go for maximum brick), and putting shields on it is the debil anyway. Much like the issue with Gal vs Amarr Scout, having the same slot layout as proto Gal Assault puts the Gal at advantage for bricking, trading only a minimal loss in HP for higher base speed + built-in reps. Also, the Amarr Starter/Mil fit doesn't need two highs. Flip them to two lows? There needs to be a PG/CPU and slot rebalance on Medium Frames which is more than we can fit into Bravo. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1862	Posted - 2014.06.12 03:37:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The Eristic wrote: (Copied from Crowdsourcing thread): Please consider 2-5 for proto Amarr Assault, rather than 3-4. Need to be able to slam that armor and/or still have room for a rep (or go for maximum brick), and putting shields on it is the debil anyway. Much like the issue with Gal vs Amarr Scout, having the same slot layout as proto Gal Assault puts the Gal at advantage for bricking, trading only a minimal loss in HP for higher base speed + built-in reps. Also, the Amarr Starter/Mil fit doesn't need two highs. Flip them to two lows? There needs to be a PG/CPU and slot rebalance on Medium Frames which is more than we can fit into Bravo. Do you mean all medium frames (basic and specialized) or just the basic ones? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2014.06.12 04:29:00 - [32] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Giving the Amarr assault an extra low slot is great and all but what's the point if I can't utilize it? All of my fits (STD-PRO) are really tight on fitting and I just can't fit an extra module. I don't consider something a buff if it's unusable. Is there consideration to buffing the base fitting resources? i agree as the ammar suit have lots of cpu more then i can ever use acualy and so little cpu im allways haveing to spend hours working on my fitings i propose a slight pg increse as i cant even fill all my slots as they are something small just a messly 10 more pg will help greatly (thats less then most proto things) "Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2014.06.12 04:32:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The Eristic wrote: (Copied from Crowdsourcing thread): Please consider 2-5 for proto Amarr Assault, rather than 3-4. Need to be able to slam that armor and/or still have room for a rep (or go for maximum brick), and putting shields on it is the debil anyway. Much like the issue with Gal vs Amarr Scout, having the same slot layout as proto Gal Assault puts the Gal at advantage for bricking, trading only a minimal loss in HP for higher base speed + built-in reps. Also, the Amarr Starter/Mil fit doesn't need two highs. Flip them to two lows? There needs to be a PG/CPU and slot rebalance on Medium Frames which is more than we can fit into Bravo. back when the amarr suits came out there were known to be the most flexable suits (as you had 2 and 2 and 3 and 3)and as such you some caldaris and most of the rest were gallenti or ammars them gallenti got buffs or ammar got nurf and the amarr and caldaris just vanished. "Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4195	Posted - 2014.06.12 05:58:00 - [34] - Quote Now the PG/CPU i'm not complaining about but the slot layout is well.... F*ck up for a armor tanked suit, mostly the standard suit but all of them have pretty bad slot layouts... Viktor for CPM I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 50Mil SP) Chat Channel: Vik PC
Floyd20 Azizora L.O.T.I.S. 61	Posted - 2014.06.12 10:33:00 - [35] - Quote nvm mind, only std scr has lost pg. now scales from 7 to 16 to 20


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