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Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:32:00 -
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you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level. |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:42:00 -
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imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu.
i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level? |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:52:00 -
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in terms of cpu maybe, but not in pg terms.
just messing around in protofits, what have you fitted to be maxxing it out? |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:12:00 -
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well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason)
try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level.
just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:38:00 -
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most proto suits have this issue, the amarr medium is in one of the best places in terms of cpu and pg.
basic suits ain't meant to be full of proto gear, the othert assault suits would have to not use equipment or grenade slot to get 2 complex shield extenders and 2 guns. plus 2 enhanced armor reps cost less pg then now, for more benefit. your compact hive reps armor, so you could use something with less pg needs, like a reactive or ferrascale plate. you could put a pg upgrade in your last slot and upgrade your laser rifle if you wanted. damage mods use less cpu and pg, and has some value on a laser rifle. |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:47:00 -
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RedPencil wrote:Floyd20 Azizora wrote:you do know the amarr assault has by far the highest cpu and pg at the moment? plus the SR's are losing a lot of pg. downgrade a couple of modules a level. Do you know that SR is PG intensive and will always leave you with little to no PG to fit any other module you wanted? Here, acknowledge by Rattati. CCP Rattati wrote:One step at a time. The SR is very hard to fit, even with PG reduction. Just enjoy it if gives Amarr a boost.
saving 7pg off the sr is a big deal, almost pays for a plate. cpu yes is a problem. Floyd20 Azizora wrote:imagine what the caldari and gallente assaults are like, having that extra slot, and being down 10 pg and i think 40 cpu.
i also used that suit a lot (was my only proto suit till 1.8), and i never had issues with fitting. i assume you have electronics and engineering to a high level? Imagine Cal or Gal assaults have lost 1 slot with current CPU and PG, it is a current Amarr assault situation. If you claim run ak.0 with all proto module, I want to see your fit and your skill. I have core lv5 and PG lv4 SR fitting optimization lv2 but still have to fit std sidearm and made to fit proto module because I have only 88PG you would see cal and gal assaults running more proto gear, and who said i ever used all proto gear? never used proto plates(were useless most of the time i used the suit much) most of the armor, half the drawbacks. plus damage mods are useful for high alpha weapons, even now. Floyd20 Azizora wrote:well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason)
try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level.
just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. It doesn't has much difference even him swap proto shield extenders to Complex DMG (2PG difference). Please be realistic, do not assume that everyone have all skill lv5. Many people still have SP below 24M.
my sp is just approaching 24 mil, this experience comes from when i had 10-15m (roughly). i was talkiing about using non proto shield extenders, or basic damage mods, maybe a precision enchancer(can see mediums on the other side of a wall with even a low level one) plus 2pg each can be very useful when reaching the limit. plus it would make your basic suit cheaper. |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 19:44:00 -
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dRIiqkQK4S1_NmisVxjvaBgrEtMcX-D8qz0cR4d_fV4/edit#gid=623974805
here is where everything currently being considered for 1.8 is. pro sr will go down to 13pg if this goes through.
2 enhanced armor reps give more armor, and cost just under half the pg. problem solved for everyone with complex armor rep and pg worries. |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:42:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Floyd20 Azizora wrote:well, i see the problem on the basic suit, 2 proto shield extenders(CCP is trying to kill hybrid tanking for a reason)
try standard smg in adv suit, maybe one of the armor mods down a level.
just built your pro suit, assuming assault(25% less cpu and pg costs on weapons), try damage mods(laser does more damage based on heat, higher levels melt stuff enough to warrant more damage, plus your in an armor tanking suit. maybe replace one of those reps with a ferrascale/reactive plate. using all lv5, shows 401/459cpu, and 84/92pg. But the thing is that I already make sacrifices to fit the complex modules I want. On my standard suit, I have to use the compact hive. On my advanced suit, I have to stick with standard grenades and using a less resource intensive plate (ferroscale), otherwise I'm stuck with an enhanced shield extender if I keep the regular plate. And then the difference between my advanced and proto suit is just two complex modules. No proto weapons, no proto hives, and I'm still just using standard locus grenades. And that's 87/87 PG for me. I think that I should surely be able to fit all complex modules on the proto suit considering that I use advanced weapons and hives and a standard locus.
just noticed something about your advanced suit. difference between ferroscale and regular plates is bigger then complex and enhanced extenders. switch them 2 round, get more hp, look more like an armor tank. |
Floyd20 Azizora
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Posted - 2014.06.12 10:33:00 -
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nvm mind, only std scr has lost pg. now scales from 7 to 16 to 20 |
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