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HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 191	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:24:00 - [31] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ssssh, you'll attract the tears of fat people. To late... I was pointing out that a gun of this type would have spin up time. "But it's space age" is a stupid response. And so is a troll response from a cpm. Almost pointless talking to anyone on the forums since it's filled with trolls, go get some vag assclowns. "Waaah, people don't agree with me!" Waaaaah I didn't understand the question but I still need to stop someone who I assume is trying to nerf my gun Lonewolf till I die
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10553	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:29:00 - [32] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Counter rotating drives aligning? I've loaded a phalanx... That's not how they work.. Btw, No gun gets more accurate as it fires lol. I mean look at the V8 Kriss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnKd6iXHTQg I mean the mere concept of how to do this didn't exist back then and this weapon's accuracy is highly reliant on the gun firing in the first place. I mean why didn't 1800's guns use this mechanism? Or 1600 hundreds smoothbores? There is also smarter scopes coming out that correct their calculations between shots. While the gun itself is not getting more accurate the scope is. Finally; this is a video game and trying to balance based off reality is just silly and that itself is generally considered trolling which should be meet with just as much amount of trolling. Then change the description to... It's made out of dragon teeth ( they don't have mass, didn't you know that?)and shoots unicorn dicks while your at it. I was asking a simple question about the physics. Here's another question to have a dumb answer to... Why clones, when robots will be far superior to biological bodies ( in the future ) and if the technology to transfer consciousness is around how fast would drone robot control be. Btw the new scope won't fire the gun till your on target, exacto rounds are guided in flight, and even in the future mass will still have mass, that's what my question was about. To bad a cpm can't even understand it and goes straight to trolling. Clone bodies are likely cheaper than drones. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 191	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:33:00 - [33] - Quote True Adamance wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Counter rotating drives aligning? I've loaded a phalanx... That's not how they work.. Btw, No gun gets more accurate as it fires lol. I mean look at the V8 Kriss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnKd6iXHTQg I mean the mere concept of how to do this didn't exist back then and this weapon's accuracy is highly reliant on the gun firing in the first place. I mean why didn't 1800's guns use this mechanism? Or 1600 hundreds smoothbores? There is also smarter scopes coming out that correct their calculations between shots. While the gun itself is not getting more accurate the scope is. Finally; this is a video game and trying to balance based off reality is just silly and that itself is generally considered trolling which should be meet with just as much amount of trolling. Then change the description to... It's made out of dragon teeth ( they don't have mass, didn't you know that?)and shoots unicorn dicks while your at it. I was asking a simple question about the physics. Here's another question to have a dumb answer to... Why clones, when robots will be far superior to biological bodies ( in the future ) and if the technology to transfer consciousness is around how fast would drone robot control be. Btw the new scope won't fire the gun till your on target, exacto rounds are guided in flight, and even in the future mass will still have mass, that's what my question was about. To bad a cpm can't even understand it and goes straight to trolling. Clone bodies are likely cheaper than drones. Hopefully or I'll feel bad about suiciding every time one gets tired or hungry. Lonewolf till I die
Powerh8er Ganking Jugend 438	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:34:00 - [34] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Powerh8er wrote: Why would a gunpowder projectile weapon need a spin up time? Heavies are useless enough as it is, stop trying to nerf them further. If you think heavies are 'useless' you are terrible. Also, it's perfectly reasonable for a rotary barrel weapon to have a spin-up time mechanically. It being 'gunpowder' has nothing to do with it. The only person that understood the question... Thanks arkena. The barrels spin to prevent overheating, why would they spin if no bullets are going through the barrel? It would be very unefficent as a weapon if they did, the first gatling gun ever had no spin up time, why would a sci-fi minigun need it? Im terrible huh? Well, you seem kinda stupid.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 191	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:36:00 - [35] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Powerh8er wrote: Why would a gunpowder projectile weapon need a spin up time? Heavies are useless enough as it is, stop trying to nerf them further. If you think heavies are 'useless' you are terrible. Also, it's perfectly reasonable for a rotary barrel weapon to have a spin-up time mechanically. It being 'gunpowder' has nothing to do with it. The only person that understood the question... Thanks arkena. The barrels spin to prevent overheating, why would they spin if no bullets are going through the barrel? It would be very unefficent as a weapon if they did, the first gatling gun ever had no spin up time, why would a sci-fi minigun need it? Im terrible huh? Well, you seem kinda stupid. And it was hand cranked and operated by 2 men Lonewolf till I die
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 213	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:39:00 - [36] - Quote I should rename this topic " I want heavy rage " Lonewolf till I die
Powerh8er Ganking Jugend 438	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:47:00 - [37] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: I should rename this topic " I want heavy rage " It has nothing to with rage, i just want some logic into the game. I used to be MG man in the force so i reaaally like machine guns and i want the HMG in dust to resemble an actually machinegun just a fraction and not turn into a broken gun again because of some forum diva getting killed once too often by it.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4828	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:55:00 - [38] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ssssh, you'll attract the tears of fat people. To late... I was pointing out that a gun of this type would have spin up time. "But it's space age" is a stupid response. And so is a troll response from a cpm. Almost pointless talking to anyone on the forums since it's filled with trolls, go get some vag assclowns. "Waaah, people don't agree with me!" Waaaaah I didn't understand the question but I still need to stop someone who I assume is trying to nerf my gun I don't play anymore, so you can believe me when I say I have no vested interests in keeping the HMG spool-up-free. Not that I think your suggestion has a chance of being passed anyway. The the rebuttal to your argument has already been posted: the technology is not the same. Claiming that Dust's HMG should have spool up because its closest real-life equivalent does, is no different from claiming that electric cars should have CO emissions because standard combustion engines do. You're simply shouting over anyone who tells you that the weapon is designed differently. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 213	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:56:00 - [39] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: I should rename this topic " I want heavy rage " It has nothing to with rage, i just want some logic into the game. I used to be MG man in the force so i reaaally like machine guns and i want the HMG in dust to resemble an actually machinegun just a fraction and not turn into a broken gun again because of some forum diva getting killed once too often by it. Don't mind them actually I use a rr at range so they hardly ever kill me... I do think that scouts shouldn't be able to run through the stream of bullets once it's firing tho. Seems silly. I was not expecting such stupid comments tho. As a mg you might have also mentioned that modern gatlings don't overheat before they exhaust their ammo supply, and not just 300-400 rounds more like 2000-10000. Lonewolf till I die
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 213	Posted - 2014.06.10 20:57:00 - [40] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ssssh, you'll attract the tears of fat people. To late... I was pointing out that a gun of this type would have spin up time. "But it's space age" is a stupid response. And so is a troll response from a cpm. Almost pointless talking to anyone on the forums since it's filled with trolls, go get some vag assclowns. "Waaah, people don't agree with me!" Waaaaah I didn't understand the question but I still need to stop someone who I assume is trying to nerf my gun I don't play anymore, so you can believe me when I say I have no vested interests in keeping the HMG spool-up-free. Not that I think your suggestion has a chance of being passed anyway. The the rebuttal to your argument has already been posted: the technology is not the same. Claiming that Dust's HMG should have spool up because its closest real-life equivalent does, is no different from claiming that electric cars should have CO emissions because standard combustion engines do. You're simply shouting over anyone who tells you that the weapon is designed differently. Didn't know you could hear me shouting. If you don't play why are you on the forums? Go outside neck beard. Lonewolf till I die

Defy Gravity 424	Posted - 2014.06.10 21:10:00 - [41] - Quote No. If I kill you in game, look for a confirmation that says "I Just Killed You"
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 674	Posted - 2014.06.10 21:41:00 - [42] - Quote fat suit here. spool time is bad for heavyies. heres why scout + shotgun. spool up time would leave us with even less defence against this tactic. id much rather see a range reduction the boundless has stupid range. (im a decent heavy by no means good but im not the bottom of the pond crap you see in some games.)
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4828	Posted - 2014.06.10 22:51:00 - [43] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: "Waaah, people don't agree with me!" Waaaaah I didn't understand the question but I still need to stop someone who I assume is trying to nerf my gun I don't play anymore, so you can believe me when I say I have no vested interests in keeping the HMG spool-up-free. Not that I think your suggestion has a chance of being passed anyway. The the rebuttal to your argument has already been posted: the technology is not the same. Claiming that Dust's HMG should have spool up because its closest real-life equivalent does, is no different from claiming that electric cars should have CO emissions because standard combustion engines do. You're simply shouting over anyone who tells you that the weapon is designed differently. Didn't know you could hear me shouting. If you don't play why are you on the forums? Go outside neck beard. Oh, ouch. Your words cut deeply Mr Internet Stranger. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 2752	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:15:00 - [44] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: . Here's another question to have a dumb answer to... Why clones, when robots will be far superior to biological bodies ( in the future ) and if the technology to transfer consciousness is around how fast would drone robot control be. Biomass is cheaper than unessesary robot bodies. Our bodies aren't doing any of the work, its the dropsuits that do the work. The bodies are just "filler". It just so happens that a filler made of biomass is cheaper than a filler made of silicon and tritanium alloys. Just like everything else in New Eden... It's cheaper and more efficient. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 292	Posted - 2014.06.11 00:42:00 - [45] - Quote This topic has all the signs of a butthurt scout RE spammer who just found out that re's are getting nerfed and now wants to complain about it via a HMG spool up time nerf. Short answer: no. Long answer: hell no. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15436	Posted - 2014.06.11 02:23:00 - [46] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Counter rotating drives aligning? I've loaded a phalanx... That's not how they work.. Btw, No gun gets more accurate as it fires lol. I mean look at the V8 Kriss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnKd6iXHTQg I mean the mere concept of how to do this didn't exist back then and this weapon's accuracy is highly reliant on the gun firing in the first place. I mean why didn't 1800's guns use this mechanism? Or 1600 hundreds smoothbores? There is also smarter scopes coming out that correct their calculations between shots. While the gun itself is not getting more accurate the scope is. Finally; this is a video game and trying to balance based off reality is just silly and that itself is generally considered trolling which should be meet with just as much amount of trolling. Then change the description to... It's made out of dragon teeth ( they don't have mass, didn't you know that?)and shoots unicorn dicks while your at it. I was asking a simple question about the physics. Here's another question to have a dumb answer to... Why clones, when robots will be far superior to biological bodies ( in the future ) and if the technology to transfer consciousness is around how fast would drone robot control be. Btw the new scope won't fire the gun till your on target, exacto rounds are guided in flight, and even in the future mass will still have mass, that's what my question was about. To bad a cpm can't even understand it and goes straight to trolling. or how about you can for once suspend the notion of belief and understand that eve tech is 50k years in the future and these guns are not built anything like the way you or I have been familiar with. I mean 500 years ago people never thought an auto loading cannon was feasible and today we got them semi-automatic and very unnatural to be muzzleloading such things. The lore provided makes more than perfect sense because if its a pressure based system then it would still make the HMG emp proof. Amarrians are known assholes in their subjugation methods and minmatar fighting needs evolved from such. I mean what if you precious phalanx no longer punched through any missile's armor (while unlikely anytime soon) but if the situation did occur the rules of war usually forces a change in tech to counter the newer threats. For example most phalanx cannons fire tungsten rounds, a metal we only have about 50 more years worth of left. What is going to be in store for the phalanx then? Early retirement? Round replacement like depleted uranium maybe? The mind boggles, what would guns look like 50, 100, 500 years from now? For example your phalanx cannons are already given the 'out of date' status there is a highly known and predictable way to defeat them now and most militaries are aware of it, which is why they're now they're marrying the radar system to the evolved sea sparrow launcher instead of the tungsten based cannon system. As for robots in eve? We already tried robots, they got too smart and consider us food and non-sentient even. Wrong scope system; we're talking smart guns/scopes which is about 40x cheaper because it doesn't require special rounds or even a special 'gun' (the smart guns come with the system built into the stock but still much more relatively cheaper than any smart 'bullet') It makes a pretty accurate first guess and it autocorrects between firings. Doesn't turn anyone into a sniper instantly but it makes any marksman already much more deadlier. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 117	Posted - 2014.06.11 02:47:00 - [47] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: With such high damage and rate of fire. Shouldn't there be a .1 - .2 sec spin up time similar to the rail rifle? Seems like there should be. Have you used an HMG? Because it doesn't seem like you have any actual experience with the weapon. You are just spewing misinformation and QQs. If you were to use the weapon there is a spin up time. It is ~.5 seconds. The gun fires wildly inaccurate rounds until the weapon is up to speed. While this might not mesh with your limited understanding of the world it is a very common solution in video game HMGs. They are a devastating weapon and the half second or so allows the target to try to respond, dive to cover or kill the HMG user before they die. Learn how video games work. Learn the methods for how they achieve balance. Real guns are not wildly inaccurate. Video games guns are weirdly incorrect, even more so in dust, and much of it is to provide balance between weapons. Never forget that dust balance is possibly the worst in the entire history of video games and certainly in FPS genre games. Each release includes the developers FOTM and negates months of effort by their customers. At least with the lone developer remaining we shouldn't get the wild directional changes that were the hallmark of dust. One developer can only do so much, which we can be thankful for. At least we have one and his attitude is better than the entire rest of the team has been in the past. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 214	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:02:00 - [48] - Quote Holy **** there are a lot of heavys in the forums Lonewolf till I die
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 214	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:05:00 - [49] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: This topic has all the signs of a butthurt scout RE spammer who just found out that re's are getting nerfed and now wants to complain about it via a HMG spool up time nerf. Short answer: no. Long answer: hell no. Lol how many times did I blow your ******** ass up in one round? Lonewolf till I die
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 296	Posted - 2014.06.11 06:00:00 - [50] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Miokai Zahou wrote: This topic has all the signs of a butthurt scout RE spammer who just found out that re's are getting nerfed and now wants to complain about it via a HMG spool up time nerf. Short answer: no. Long answer: hell no. Lol how many times did I blow your ******** ass up in one round? Admittedly you where getting your ass hand on a golden platter by me to many times and it was glories. Then came the re spam and I still won dust. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.

Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 180	Posted - 2014.06.11 06:42:00 - [51] - Quote Yeah, there should also be shotguns with infinite damage that can OHKO anything. GTFO. My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4397	Posted - 2014.06.11 12:35:00 - [52] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: With such high damage and rate of fire. Shouldn't there be a .1 - .2 sec spin up time similar to the rail rifle? Seems like there should be. No, there shouldn't be. Not unless you change its role to be a long-range killing tool. Spin up time directly contradicts its use as a close range superiority weapon. And it doesn't have high damage. It has very weak damage, in fact. The rate of fire is the only thing it has going for it.


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