Tankbush wasn't a thing until 1.7

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hello,

Here is a small video about what happens in ambush. While the tank action is not up in your face the killfeed and the end result is still there.

The necessary info is in the beginning which is basically the end result of the tankers in the match.

Yes because 2 guys with lai dai av grenades where enough to kill anything. Which was problematic on a different lvl. Now about something else:

even if we would just allow LAV's in ambush people will again start to complain about heavys driving around doing drive by's with a HMG. And dropships allow you to camp rooftops like a twatt which slows down the gameplay. I know about that cause i done both at some point in the game. So the only way to eliminate these scrublord tactis is to get rid of vehicles in ambush.

I think that OMS should have vehicles, but the other kind shouldnt.

Vehicle users and AV users are going to be really pissed about removing vehicles altogether.

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You did have a point here, in that infantry gameplay suffered considerably from post 1.7 vehicle balance, so i'll respond as if your comment was still here.

Vehicles as a whole (save for LLAVS maybe) have had the stick for for almost a year before that so yeah...

But I agree that the constant imbalance, one way or the other, has brought us to the point where pilots and infantry see each other as enemies in the most literal sense. No other way to explain how one part of the community can accept and even support cutting the choices available to another in order to basically gain the choice to not play with them.

The problem is, and will remain, in the way infantry and vehicles interact with each other on current maps and removing one from a game mode treats a symptom, not the underlying cause, while further segregating an already estranged community.

This is sure to be a flammable topic.

Here are a few of our reasons:

1) There is no Vehicle free mode - "Normal" TDM that most fps players are used to in other games
2) Public Ambush is farmed relentlessly by high level vehicle users
3) Many of our maps are simply not optimal for joint infantry - vehicle gameplay
4) Objective-based gameplay breeds more tactical gameplay, making it more likely that vehicles are used to capture and defend Objectives, while it is also more likely that infantry is able to counter vehicles with their own AV weapons.

Please discuss and keep it civil, I am sure there will be a few disappointed vehicle users but we believe this is better for DUST 514 overall.

VIDEO

hello,

Here is a small video about what happens in ambush. While the tank action is not up in your face the killfeed and the end result is still there.

The necessary info is in the beginning which is basically the end result of the tankers in the match.