Want to destroy heavies in std-proto? Grab a caldari scout with adv shot gun, triple damage mods and reactive plates and you can kill any heavy usually with 2 shots. 3 for protos

I would love to see you try vs a heavy that boxed himself in a corner (such as objective A on the map with the two silos in the middle and the supply depot connected by underground tunnels) You won't be able to so much as twitch down either tunnel before you die.
You'd have to use a dropship just to get on top, and even then, your presence would be known.

Grenades. Remote explosives. Shotguns. Rail rifles. Combat rifles. Mass Drivers. Laser Rifles. Even scrambler rifles should be killing heavies and if you're not then you're bad at this game. Sorry but it's true.

If you're not good enough to figure out how to kill a heavy, kill his Logi. That's the first step.

Heavies sacrifice speed, scanning and being scanned, as well as the size of their hit-box, all for just those two things: HP and power.

A basic remote explosive will kill any heavy in this game. Skill into them, they only cost about a week's worth of SP.

Im very good in this game, i have a Caldari suit lvl 5, and ACR BK-42 and i can-¦t kill a heavy alone xD i have 308 shiel and they kill me too easy.. i can-¦t run from them. XD

Want to destroy heavies in std-proto? Grab a caldari scout with adv shot gun, triple damage mods and reactive plates and you can kill any heavy usually with 2 shots. 3 for protos

The Sentinel is op, HMG is op, he lowered the damage weapons do damage to armor and Gallente are invincible,
Much armor to weapons that do as little damage to the armor.

Sorry for the bad english im from argentina.

no the sentinels aren't o.p. (although stacked gallentes will need more than one person to kill normally)

the thing is that they are supposed to be difficult to kill they are high sp heavy armour suits.

your best defences against them are usually:
. distance, if they are using a hmg.
.shotguns if you can get behind them
.scanners, if you are in a squad (particularly vehicle scanners)
.heavies in your squad to toe to toe with them
.don't try to take them on alone if you can help it
.remote explosives attached to them.
.don't try a frontal approach, they have a mini gun!
.flux grenades will work a treat most of the time as it just leaves their armour, if you rely on these I'd suggest an anti armour proficiency weapon.
.if they are in a proto suit and you are alone.... don't respawn in that same area. go try somewhere else or get help.

also don't forget the value of speed, most heavies are slow

no the sentinels aren't o.p. (although stacked gallentes will need more than one person to kill normally)

the thing is that they are supposed to be difficult to kill they are high sp heavy armour suits.

your best defences against them are usually:
. distance, if they are using a hmg.
.shotguns if you can get behind them
.scanners, if you are in a squad (particularly vehicle scanners)
.heavies in your squad to toe to toe with them
.don't try to take them on alone if you can help it
.remote explosives attached to them.
.don't try a frontal approach, they have a mini gun!
.flux grenades will work a treat most of the time as it just leaves their armour, if you rely on these I'd suggest an anti armour proficiency weapon.
.if they are in a proto suit and you are alone.... don't respawn in that same area. go try somewhere else or get help.

also don't forget the value of speed, most heavies are slow

Write it in spanish and I will translate because this doesn't make any sence.

Escribelo en espa+¦ol y yo lo traduco porque esto no tiene ningun sentido.

The Sentinel is op, HMG is op, he lowered the damage weapons do damage to armor and Gallente are invincible,
Much armor to weapons that do as little damage to the armor.

Sorry for the bad english im from argentina.

Proto-Logis = OP, Proto-Scouts OP, Proto-Assaults = OP~

Grenades. Remote explosives. Shotguns. Rail rifles. Combat rifles. Mass Drivers. Laser Rifles. Even scrambler rifles should be killing heavies and if you're not then you're bad at this game. Sorry but it's true.

If you're not good enough to figure out how to kill a heavy, kill his Logi. That's the first step.

Heavies sacrifice speed, scanning and being scanned, as well as the size of their hit-box, all for just those two things: HP and power.

A basic remote explosive will kill any heavy in this game. Skill into them, they only cost about a week's worth of SP.

Grenades - No. Seeing as they have a 25% damage reduction to them and even if they were doing full damage they wouldn't kill sentinels...
Remote explosives - Yes. The best counter on this list.
Shotguns - Dubious. Yes on bad heavies, no on those that are decently equipped.
Rail rifles - No.
Combat rifles - Low chance.
Mass drivers - Absolutely not.
Laser rifles - Possible, but unlikely.
Scrambler rifles - No. Have you even used a scrambler rifle? Asserting that being unable to kill a heavy with a scrambler rifle suggests that you haven't the faintest idea of how a scrambler rifle works.

A basic remote will not kill any heavy in the game.

The only thing heavies really sacrifice over mediums is a bit of speed. Hitboxes isn't really a major thing with aim assist, and medium frames will all be scanned by pretty much any form of scanning and none of them have viable scanning.


There is no viable counter to massing heavies on objectives without excellent organisation/skill - far, far more skill investment than the heavies put in. Remote explosives only go so far. Heavy spam wins objective games. Of all the roles in DUST, it's one of the lowest skill ones as well - the HMG barely requires aiming at this point.

also with the removal of the slowdown effect strafing has become much easier for the smaller suits while remaining awful for a heavy. Finally, a heavy can not lone wolf for **** due to the lack of an equipment slot and the HMG literally hemorrhages ammo...

high sp heavy armour suits.

The problem with heavies is that they give to much for what they lose, they get the most HP and the best weapon in the game for a small sacrifice in speed. The speed would be a balancing factor if it wasn't for the fact the HMG can melt your face before you have time to even move a step. Their HP shouldn't be cut down, but maybe their turning speed should be increased and a spool up time for the HMG should be added.

Unlike earlier models, the weapon requires no spool up time; rounds are expelled the instant the trigger is pressed. This comes at the cost of initially reduced accuracy as the counter-rotating drives slowly align. Once fully aligned, however, the HMG produces a pinpoint stream of gunfire with unmatched killing potential.

As a heavy I have had my fair share of deaths and I know very well that heavies are not invincible, but I know for a fact that my advanced Gallente Sentinel suit could survive more than that many shots so don't rely on just a shotgun. I personally get killed by remote explosives most of the time.