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Speedddogg Aaries Logistic Assault 16	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:31:00 - [1] - Quote A proto stomp isn't some guy who decides to use his hard earned proto gear in a match. (Now if you use AUR to get proto... well that's a different story). Its a guy who creates a squad specifically to be a cheap bastard and uses proto gear in a match. This is annoying. Now I'm expecting at least one of these replies. 1. HTFU (I'm sorry, but if I put anything heavier then cardboard on my scout suit, it'll be an assault suit). 2. You're butthurt 3. YOU SON OF A ***** YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BLEW UP MY ENTIRE SQUAD OF PROTO HEAVIES WITH REMOTE EXPLOSIVES! 4. If you're so annoyed by it get your own proto gear. 5. Squad up. It still happens but its not as often. 6. Go back to COD noob. As a response to those. 1. You're lazy and unoriginal. Come up with a better bullshit excuse. (Plus I doubt armor hardeners work on dropsuits.Especially not scout suits. If we put on anything heavier then cardboard we become assault). 2. Not really. Just a bit annoyed. 3. HAHAHAHA! BABOOM! ...I mean, yeah you deserved it. Cheap bastards. 4. Well I would but the fact that you're proto-stomping us makes it a bit hard to get enough SP. 5. I do, but sometimes nobody else from my corp is on, and I'm not going back to the squad finder. Too much Spanish... 6. I've never actually played COD. Or any other FPS for that matter. Dust is my first... which is probably why I've stuck around so long. What I'm trying to say here is... we have terrible matchmaking. We don't have enough players. We need a bigger playerbase... but tell me, who in their right minds would keep playing after one match?! (For the record, I went insane years ago). Why? Because once they get out of the academy, their met with a flood of proto-stomping bastards who don't even let them spawn! Why would they want to keep playing if they keep getting stomped over and over? Proto-stompers, you are literally driving down the playerbase! I will stab you in the back! Unless you see me, in which case I will hit that suicide button so fast...
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4110	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:39:00 - [2] - Quote Here is one you might not have anticipated... "I care very little for the opinions of the poors so i don't have to justify anything to you and i will continue to stomp." Do you even Plasma Cannon Bro? I'll ring for free(Slayer Heavy and Assault)
Michael Arck 4610	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:44:00 - [3] - Quote Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3588	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:44:00 - [4] - Quote Proto Stomping 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:53:00 - [5] - Quote Stacking + proto setups with characters having well over 24+million SP = Dust514 maintain player retention for new players as well as decrease the amount of time a player will continue player. This basically means the game is designed essentially to run itself into a financially obsolete in under 2 years which is pretty grim perspective as it relied more on microtransactions than anything else to keep itself alive. So if anything, stack and stomp away and that's only further prove how CCP is utterly incompetent with gaming designs and schemes for FPS and how Dust514's success was never about platform but how they can't even design a game that maintains a degree of relevancy for at least 2 years. I'm not your research but by all means visit the EvE end of the forums about Dust and Legion, then head to other forums from Planetside to even Killzone and Halo. This game is laughing stock of anything FPS based and it's reputation for being horribly bad begins with how players interact with the game in the first month. And yea because protostomping with player stacking directly contributes to this, it's been a rallying call of why Dust continues to fail. For the record just came out of a stacked player battle and I came out 8:1. Second highest was 3:16. The other side was 28:1, 20:1, 16:1. They also had 8 ppl in their corp. I know a stomp when I see it and it takes me more than 3 shots to take you out on a shotgun from upclose. So by all means, play the world's saddest song on the world's tiniest violin for those subject to protostomping, I'll be playing the same song when Dust 514 gets upended because they can't do anything about sh!t like this.
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 87	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:55:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. For the record just last match was 4 from STB and 6 from NFSounds. Yeah no proto stomp on public? Not all the elite players have left for Legion they only show up on weekends. Weekdays your relatively less at risk.
Michael Arck 4612	Posted - 2014.06.07 04:58:00 - [7] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. For the record just last match was 4 from STB and 6 from NFSounds. Yeah no proto stomp on public? Not all the elite players have left for Legion they only show up on weekends. Weekdays your relatively less at risk. Yea one match that you recently played. In your last 10 games, how many times were you protostomped? And I have already answered that before you spoke... Michael Arck wrote: The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Organized teamplay works well against STB and NFSounds. Your team had poor players. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Espartoi Orkz Clan 220	Posted - 2014.06.07 05:07:00 - [8] - Quote I like stomping. Should be named as the game main feature. I tried Black light: retribution.. pfff boring you can buy permanent weapons, mechanics for poor people. Shoot, Smash, Stomp. One must never go full Hodor.
Espartoi Orkz Clan 220	Posted - 2014.06.07 05:16:00 - [9] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Proto Stomping I give you all the likes that i can... Why is not the Dust514 trailer?. Shoot, Smash, Stomp. One must never go full Hodor.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4111	Posted - 2014.06.07 05:16:00 - [10] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. For the record just last match was 4 from STB and 6 from NFSounds. Yeah no proto stomp on public? Not all the elite players have left for Legion they only show up on weekends. Weekdays your relatively less at risk. You did not just call STB elite..... Your problem might not be that you are getting crushed by protosuits you EW probably just not that good. STB does not even let there members play in PC... Do you even Plasma Cannon Bro? I'll ring for free(Slayer Heavy and Assault)

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 189	Posted - 2014.06.07 07:23:00 - [11] - Quote Been a problem since I started... Join a corp or get raped and beaten How about leave PC and factional as is ( for corp gang members, so they can "play" with each other ) Them make public matches random every time, with one minute on the battle bridge to squad up. Squad finder is filled with " proto only, mic's only, b.s. No good for new players anyway ) Then start a 5-10 minute timer if you leave battle before you can join another ( so you can't just join and quit till your on the " right " team, or leaving because your getting stomped which is part of the problem also ). Or newbs unite! See a q-sync? Leave before you feed the trolls, it only makes them happy. Personally I always run solo, squaring rarely... Shouldn't be necessary. Went 43-3 today, 5 rounds in a row #1 on the leaderboard ( 3 times on the defeated team one round 2-7 ) guess I finally got good? Lonewolf till I die
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 88	Posted - 2014.06.07 08:38:00 - [12] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Gemini Cuspid wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. For the record just last match was 4 from STB and 6 from NFSounds. Yeah no proto stomp on public? Not all the elite players have left for Legion they only show up on weekends. Weekdays your relatively less at risk. You did not just call STB elite..... Your problem might not be that you are getting crushed by protosuits you EW probably just not that good. STB does not even let there members play in PC... Oh I'm sorry did we get offended since half their member base would still be better than nearly any newcomer and if you were actually literate, bothered to read and had an educational level of an 8th grader then you'd also get the "6 from Nfsounds"..oh wait let me clarify: I SAID 6 FROM NFSOUNDS WITH 4 FROM STB IN SO FAR @ MATCHES IN THE PUB AND IF YOU CAN READ AND NOT TRYING TO BE DEFENSIVE TO SHOW YOU DIDN'T READ AND ARE NOT LITERATE I ESPECIALLY EMPHASIZED IT FOR YOU AND ANY ONE ELSE FROM THE SHORT YELLOW SCHOOL BUS YOU SEEM TO HAVE CLONED FROM. In street psychology its called "nitpicking" and you focused on the "STB" and didn't even mention that there were more ppl from NFSounds and they would crush a lot of players overall in pub matches. And btw my KDR was only 4.25:1 I'll also make one thing clear: you're obviously not getting the point of why protostomping is an issue in the game and why most who deny it enjoy the convenience and luxury of how it justifies their not so superb abilities. The game isn't about KDR stats though. It's one thing to focus on one aspect and say "oh hey that doesn't sound right you must be wrong" when you miss the point that even if STB is a far cry than what they used to be and when they're still a relative elite when its a pub match and there's at least 4 ppl from Amarr Templars. And while I know players from WarRavens and RND can say they've been playing against STB for a longtime and know whose good and isn't, anyone whose been in MAG also knows that. It's fair enough to say that some players I've killed in games outside of Dust. So by all means, next time you nitpick something, focus on the whole statement and don't look like a failed troll in the process because you're failing to prove your point.
Michael Arck 4614	Posted - 2014.06.07 08:57:00 - [13] - Quote Inhale and then exhale. Again, protostomping does not happen anymore like it used to. If you getting protostomped in today's war...well, frankly, you just suck. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3600	Posted - 2014.06.07 09:20:00 - [14] - Quote Espartoi wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Proto Stomping I give you all the likes that i can... Why is not the Dust514 trailer?. Oh man You just gave me an idea for the PERFECT video. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4112	Posted - 2014.06.07 09:26:00 - [15] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Gemini Cuspid wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. For the record just last match was 4 from STB and 6 from NFSounds. Yeah no proto stomp on public? Not all the elite players have left for Legion they only show up on weekends. Weekdays your relatively less at risk. You did not just call STB elite..... Your problem might not be that you are getting crushed by protosuits you EW probably just not that good. STB does not even let there members play in PC... Oh I'm sorry did we get offended since half their member base would still be better than nearly any newcomer and if you were actually literate, bothered to read and had an educational level of an 8th grader then you'd also get the "6 from Nfsounds"..oh wait let me clarify: I SAID 6 FROM NFSOUNDS WITH 4 FROM STB IN SO FAR @ MATCHES IN THE PUB AND IF YOU CAN READ AND NOT TRYING TO BE DEFENSIVE TO SHOW YOU DIDN'T READ AND ARE NOT LITERATE I ESPECIALLY EMPHASIZED IT FOR YOU AND ANY ONE ELSE FROM THE SHORT YELLOW SCHOOL BUS YOU SEEM TO HAVE CLONED FROM. In street psychology its called "nitpicking" and you focused on the "STB" and didn't even mention that there were more ppl from NFSounds and they would crush a lot of players overall in pub matches. And btw my KDR was only 4.25:1 I'll also make one thing clear: you're obviously not getting the point of why protostomping is an issue in the game and why most who deny it enjoy the convenience and luxury of how it justifies their not so superb abilities. The game isn't about KDR stats though. It's one thing to focus on one aspect and say "oh hey that doesn't sound right you must be wrong" when you miss the point that even if STB is a far cry than what they used to be and when they're still a relative elite when its a pub match and there's at least 4 ppl from Amarr Templars. And while I know players from WarRavens and RND can say they've been playing against STB for a longtime and know whose good and isn't, anyone whose been in MAG also knows that. It's fair enough to say that some players I've killed in games outside of Dust. So by all means, next time you nitpick something, focus on the whole statement and don't look like a failed troll in the process because you're failing to prove your point. Calm your tit's and remember it's just a video game... 1337 PLC I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 50Mil SP) Chat Channel: "Vik PC"
Cruell Grimsman Namtar Elite 19	Posted - 2014.06.07 10:50:00 - [16] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Inhale and then exhale. Again, protostomping does not happen anymore like it used to. If you getting protostomped in today's war...well, frankly, you just suck. Are you serious? If you get stomped now because the 'elite' players have left you suck? Fecking rubbish mate, and you should know better than posting crap like this. Q-syncing still goes on, and noobs are still leaving Academy and getting kerb stomped out on their very first game out in the wild. Of the 8 people who joined this game at the same time I did, guess how many still play? Just one. Why did the rest of 'em leave? Cause its no fun to get killed without any chance to even fight back. We can all argue why the game has such a low player base till the cows come home, but protostomping has to take the most blame IMO.
Michael Arck 4617	Posted - 2014.06.07 10:55:00 - [17] - Quote Cruell Grimsman wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Inhale and then exhale. Again, protostomping does not happen anymore like it used to. If you getting protostomped in today's war...well, frankly, you just suck. Are you serious? If you get stomped now because the 'elite' players have left you suck? Fecking rubbish mate, and you should know better than posting crap like this. Q-syncing still goes on, and noobs are still leaving Academy and getting kerb stomped out on their very first game out in the wild. Of the 8 people who joined this game at the same time I did, guess how many still play? Just one. Why did the rest of 'em leave? Cause its no fun to get killed without any chance to even fight back. We can all argue why the game has such a low player base till the cows come home, but protostomping has to take the most blame IMO. So you're saying the blues in public matches are highly competitive? Are you serious? I actually play this game alot. Protostomping doesn't happen at all like it used to. If you can't handle the competitiveness of the pub matches (lol pubs) then yea, you probably need to increase your skill and game. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Cruell Grimsman Namtar Elite 19	Posted - 2014.06.07 11:41:00 - [18] - Quote [/quote] So you're saying the blues in public matches are highly competitive? Are you serious? I actually play this game alot. Protostomping doesn't happen at all like it used to. If you can't handle the competitiveness of the pub matches (lol pubs) then yea, you probably need to increase your skill and game.[/quote] I'm sure there are competitive blues in Pub matches. The point I'm trying to make is that the average noob out of Academy will find it difficult to be competitive because of the disparity between the players they are fighting against. You could be the best FPS player in the world, but when you're going up against players with double (or more) the eHP as you, using weapons that do more damage and have abilities that you don't have, then yeah, you're gonna struggle. Most people on the forums and most of the Dust guides I've seen say that you don't get competitive until you get to about 8-10 million SP. While you and I and everyone else who has kept playing may be the kinds of Masochist who's willing to tough it out until we can hold our own, the average player who's trying out the game isn't gonna stay around when they are getting killed and red lined over and over and over again. If you want to play to be competetive, then you work away, nobodies going to stop you. I don't play because I want to be competetive, I'd rather play to relax and have fun. Maybe squadding up every now and again. How about this? You seem to be in the same time zone as me, so why don't we squad up some time this weekend? We can see how the game is playing between us.
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 148	Posted - 2014.06.07 11:58:00 - [19] - Quote Um... hate to break this to you... Killing proto in basic gear is how you get good at Dust. Bite the bullet and adapt. My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 1073	Posted - 2014.06.07 12:02:00 - [20] - Quote Cruell Grimsman wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Inhale and then exhale. Again, protostomping does not happen anymore like it used to. If you getting protostomped in today's war...well, frankly, you just suck. Are you serious? If you get stomped now because the 'elite' players have left you suck? Fecking rubbish mate, and you should know better than posting crap like this. Q-syncing still goes on, and noobs are still leaving Academy and getting kerb stomped out on their very first game out in the wild. Of the 8 people who joined this game at the same time I did, guess how many still play? Just one. Why did the rest of 'em leave? Cause its no fun to get killed without any chance to even fight back. We can all argue why the game has such a low player base till the cows come home, but protostomping has to take the most blame IMO. This is Michael Arck. He is well known for spouting bullshit on the forums. Simply ignore him.

Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1319	Posted - 2014.06.07 12:21:00 - [21] - Quote Speedddogg wrote: A proto stomp isn't some guy who decides to use his hard earned proto gear in a match. (Now if you use AUR to get proto... well that's a different story). Its a guy who creates a squad specifically to be a cheap bastard and uses proto gear in a match. This is annoying. Now I'm expecting at least one of these replies. 1. HTFU (I'm sorry, but if I put anything heavier then cardboard on my scout suit, it'll be an assault suit). 2. You're butthurt 3. YOU SON OF A ***** YOU'RE THE ONE WHO BLEW UP MY ENTIRE SQUAD OF PROTO HEAVIES WITH REMOTE EXPLOSIVES! 4. If you're so annoyed by it get your own proto gear. 5. Squad up. It still happens but its not as often. 6. Go back to COD noob. As a response to those. 1. You're lazy and unoriginal. Come up with a better bullshit excuse. (Plus I doubt armor hardeners work on dropsuits.Especially not scout suits. If we put on anything heavier then cardboard we become assault). 2. Not really. Just a bit annoyed. 3. HAHAHAHA! BABOOM! ...I mean, yeah you deserved it. Cheap bastards. 4. Well I would but the fact that you're proto-stomping us makes it a bit hard to get enough SP. 5. I do, but sometimes nobody else from my corp is on, and I'm not going back to the squad finder. Too much Spanish... 6. I've never actually played COD. Or any other FPS for that matter. Dust is my first... which is probably why I've stuck around so long. What I'm trying to say here is... we have terrible matchmaking. We don't have enough players. We need a bigger playerbase... but tell me, who in their right minds would keep playing after one match?! (For the record, I went insane years ago). Why? Because once they get out of the academy, their met with a flood of proto-stomping bastards who don't even let them spawn! Why would they want to keep playing if they keep getting stomped over and over? Proto-stompers, you are literally driving down the playerbase! This is a competitive shooter. If you can't compete Candy Crush Saga is that way ->
Cruell Grimsman Namtar Elite 19	Posted - 2014.06.07 12:26:00 - [22] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: Cruell Grimsman wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Inhale and then exhale. Again, protostomping does not happen anymore like it used to. If you getting protostomped in today's war...well, frankly, you just suck. Are you serious? If you get stomped now because the 'elite' players have left you suck? Fecking rubbish mate, and you should know better than posting crap like this. Q-syncing still goes on, and noobs are still leaving Academy and getting kerb stomped out on their very first game out in the wild. Of the 8 people who joined this game at the same time I did, guess how many still play? Just one. Why did the rest of 'em leave? Cause its no fun to get killed without any chance to even fight back. We can all argue why the game has such a low player base till the cows come home, but protostomping has to take the most blame IMO. This is Michael Arck. He is well known for spouting bullshit on the forums. Simply ignore him. Ah, I dunno, I'm not really one to block someone because I don't agree with their point of view. I hope I'm big and ugly enough to know that even someone you don't agree with may have a valid point. If Michael Arck isn't seeing Protostomping going on, then I guess that's the reality that's he/she is seeing. From a personal point of view, I see it going on all the time. Anyway, this is going of topic fast :) I personally think that protostomping is the main reason that the player retention is so low. Well, that and the rubbish NPE and lack of information in the game for new players. I'm sure that CCP will solve it before Legion arrives...
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 99	Posted - 2014.06.07 13:25:00 - [23] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Proto Stomping Ok, now every time I see stompers in amatch I'm gonna lose because I'll be laughing too hard thinking they're sitting around going, "Sontar-HA! Sontar-HA! Sontar-HA!" lol what i think of when charging fg
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14179	Posted - 2014.06.07 13:41:00 - [24] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: This is Michael Arck. He is well known for spouting bullshit on the forums. Simply ignore him. Ad hominem is such a wonderful staple of forum warfare. "I can't present a valid observation or counterpoint, clearly the other side is an idiot." You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Michael Arck 4618	Posted - 2014.06.07 13:46:00 - [25] - Quote This is Michael Arck. I am well known for expressing my opinion whether you like it or not. No, I'm not the guy who says what everybody else says just to be in some cool kids club or to be accepted. What I say, I believe in and I live by. If you think it's bullshit because it doesn't agree with your opinion, oh well. The truth of the matter is, public matches aren't competitive. Reason why folks leave pub matches to go to PC and get crushed, becoming disheartened about playing in PC. Yes, you can have some good games in pubs but to measure your skill according to pubs really doesn't amount to much. The truth of the matter is protostomping does not, I repeat, does not happen as often as implied by those whom feel otherwise. There are people who will just side with anything negative just to continue spouting negative energy. Protostomping was mainly committed by players who often PC. With a bankroll to support and after months of working hard to achieve level 5 in a dropsuit, these players would use the same PC tactics in pubs. Hence the protostomping. Instead of working and coordinating with teammates, disorganized blues got protostomped into oblivion. But back to the point... Protostomping hardly ever happens in pubs like it did before. I've been playing Dust 514 for about two years now. I play a string a matches in one sitting. I'm curious to know if you know what a prototype is because you just might be getting stomped by ADV suits and calling it protostomping. You can ask seasoned players (and I would be surprised if they say otherwise) if protostomping happens often in pubs and the reply would be no, compared to how prevalent it was before. You couldn't breathe back then without protos on your neck with a tanks hammering the nail in the coffin. It's so easy nowadays to destroy in pubs because honestly, plenty of players lack skill. That's not being mean or offensive, that's just the truth. Why I look at guys weird when they want to boast about how they got 40 kills and only 3 deaths. You're playing in pubs where clueless blueberries run rampant. Since my question wasn't answered, let me ask this again. In the last 10 games anybody has played, how many times were you "protostomped"? Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Michael Arck 4618	Posted - 2014.06.07 13:54:00 - [26] - Quote Cruell Grimsman wrote: So you're saying the blues in public matches are highly competitive? Are you serious? I actually play this game alot. Protostomping doesn't happen at all like it used to. If you can't handle the competitiveness of the pub matches (lol pubs) then yea, you probably need to increase your skill and game.[/quote] I'm sure there are competitive blues in Pub matches. The point I'm trying to make is that the average noob out of Academy will find it difficult to be competitive because of the disparity between the players they are fighting against. You could be the best FPS player in the world, but when you're going up against players with double (or more) the eHP as you, using weapons that do more damage and have abilities that you don't have, then yeah, you're gonna struggle. Most people on the forums and most of the Dust guides I've seen say that you don't get competitive until you get to about 8-10 million SP. While you and I and everyone else who has kept playing may be the kinds of Masochist who's willing to tough it out until we can hold our own, the average player who's trying out the game isn't gonna stay around when they are getting killed and red lined over and over and over again. If you want to play to be competetive, then you work away, nobodies going to stop you. I don't play because I want to be competetive, I'd rather play to relax and have fun. Maybe squadding up every now and again. How about this? You seem to be in the same time zone as me, so why don't we squad up some time this weekend? We can see how the game is playing between us. [/quote] You speak as if I came into this game with 30 million lifetime SP. I got my butt handed to me. And I continued playing because I knew with time I could get better. Yes, I got frustrated at first, but I kept pushing. So should we call it MLTstomping? ADVstomping? Because newberries are getting destroyed by anybody. It's up to that person to adapt to the situation. Protos aren't the only danger for a new player. You're a danger. I'm a danger. A guy playing for three months is a danger. So why just lump it into a black and white category and just say they got protostomped? The 8-10 million SP thing is false. You can be competitive in pubs with 8-10 million SP. PC is a bit different. But pubs? It's really not good to make up stuff just to prove a point. I was competitive in pubs at 9 million. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2014.06.07 14:11:00 - [27] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Gemini Cuspid wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. For the record just last match was 4 from STB and 6 from NFSounds. Yeah no proto stomp on public? Not all the elite players have left for Legion they only show up on weekends. Weekdays your relatively less at risk. Yea one match that you recently played. In your last 10 games, how many times were you protostomped? And I have already answered that before you spoke... Michael Arck wrote: The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Organized teamplay works well against STB and NFSounds. Your team had poor players. I agree with you but he is also correct. Pubstomping is a problem, always has been, let me give you a perfect example.... I was playing some pub matches not long ago and DNS still had the doughnut, ran into Summer Salt in game from Molon Labe, he says to me hey man want to PC with us against the doughnut, we are isk grinding ready to fight blah blah blah, so he gives me a channel to meet up with etc etc, now in that match they were qsynced in a pub, all wearing cheap fits, they won the match but were damn near cloned. 2 months pass, they are well established in PC again due to Legion, dns. collapse etc etc etc. Now I see them in a pub and they are not qsynced but because of the finacial freedom of their districts its straight up proto every suit, every tanks, every ADS. I msg one of them after a match and im like damn dude you got to do it like that? The response I got was **** you I got momey now its proto all day everyday, I dare say this is the mentality of many many players. I think pub stomping, and poor matchmaking is Dusts single biggest problem for maintaining new players, which translates into poor finacial performance for the game over all. And while it is 100% CCPs fault what I have always tried to say to people and use my influence to convey is that as a community we could choose to not take advantage. We could choose to break up our 6 man proto squad, run some basic gear, adopt noobs into the squads, train them into corps. We could choose to make at least 1 game mode sacred from protostomps. For the record this is an alt, I am a 52 mil sp player, ranked in the top 15 all time for kills, amd Im not even in a corp. Ive always been a lone wolf and proud of that, and while I run PCs with the best and pubs with the worst, I know pubs make the game not PC, I would love to see some major corp as a rule demand that their players have more pride than to protostomp noobs over and over......
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2014.06.07 14:21:00 - [28] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: This is Michael Arck. I am well known for expressing my opinion whether you like it or not. No, I'm not the guy who says what everybody else says just to be in some cool kids club or to be accepted. What I say, I believe in and I live by. If you think it's bullshit because it doesn't agree with your opinion, oh well. The truth of the matter is, public matches aren't competitive. Reason why folks leave pub matches to go to PC and get crushed, becoming disheartened about playing in PC. Yes, you can have some good games in pubs but to measure your skill according to pubs really doesn't amount to much. The truth of the matter is protostomping does not, I repeat, does not happen as often as implied by those whom feel otherwise. There are people who will just side with anything negative just to continue spouting negative energy. Protostomping was mainly committed by players who often PC. With a bankroll to support and after months of working hard to achieve level 5 in a dropsuit, these players would use the same PC tactics in pubs. Hence the protostomping. The Instead of working and coordinating with teammates, disorganized blues got protostomped into oblivion. But back to the point... Protostomping hardly ever happens in pubs like it did before. I've been playing Dust 514 for about two years now. I play a string a matches in one sitting. I'm curious to know if you know what a prototype is because you just might be getting stomped by ADV suits and calling it protostomping. You can ask seasoned players (and I would be surprised if they say otherwise) if protostomping happens often in pubs and the reply would be no, compared to how prevalent it was before. You couldn't breathe back then without protos on your neck with a tanks hammering the nail in the coffin. It's so easy nowadays to destroy in pubs because honestly, plenty of players lack skill. That's not being mean or offensive, that's just the truth. Why I look at guys weird when they want to boast about how they got 40 kills and only 3 deaths. You're playing in pubs where clueless blueberries run rampant. Since my question wasn't answered, let me ask this again. In the last 10 games anybody has played, how many times were you "protostomped"? While I respect your opinion I must disagree, protostomping has actually gotten worse lately simply due to the amount of corps in pc again. Its all about isk, and with DNS gone all the corps who were locked out of PC now are in it generating clones selling them and running proto in pubs. Hell worse then that they are qsyncing, and running it. As for seasoned players disagreeing, im sure they wouldnt as they are usually the people doing the protostomping in pubs.
Espartoi Orkz Clan 223	Posted - 2014.06.07 15:24:00 - [29] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Inhale and then exhale. Again, protostomping does not happen anymore like it used to. If you getting protostomped in today's war...well, frankly, you just suck. Lol, in future wars a instructors tells you you piece of dirty ** yo need to GG, now eat the ground and gimme 100. And newbies will say am in a world oh **. I cant GG. Vietnam? pff Dustnam Shoot, Smash, Stomp. One must never go full Hodor.
Albyat Tyre Glitched Connection 52	Posted - 2014.06.07 15:34:00 - [30] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Been a problem since I started... Join a corp or get raped and beaten How about leave PC and factional as is ( for corp gang members, so they can "play" with each other ) Them make public matches random every time, with one minute on the battle bridge to squad up. Squad finder is filled with " proto only, mic's only, b.s. No good for new players anyway ) Then start a 5-10 minute timer if you leave battle before you can join another ( so you can't just join and quit till your on the " right " team, or leaving because your getting stomped which is part of the problem also ). Or newbs unite! See a q-sync? Leave before you feed the trolls, it only makes them happy. Personally I always run solo, squaring rarely... Shouldn't be necessary. Went 43-3 today, 5 rounds in a row #1 on the leaderboard ( 3 times on the defeated team one round 2-7 ) guess I finally got good? Ahh yes... I remember you. I would be impressed if those high KDR's were real fighting.... You used RE to get those numbers. Try to fight with a gun... Your style is Cheap and cowardly at best. To live as one shall live, I prefer killing red dots.

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1145	Posted - 2014.06.07 15:38:00 - [31] - Quote Oddly enough, I look forward to proto players and squads on the other team. Then again, I enjoy challenges.
Derrith Erador The Last of DusT. 2021	Posted - 2014.06.07 15:39:00 - [32] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Here is one you might not have anticipated... "I care very little for the opinions of the poors so i don't have to justify anything to you and i will continue to stomp." Leave it to Viktor to be the number one douche amongst all the proto stompers. And for that, I salute you. Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 797	Posted - 2014.06.07 16:02:00 - [33] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Really? Protostomping? Where is protostomping happening? The frequency is not as great as it used to be. Why? Because most of the "elite" players and "elite" corporations who protostomped has left after hearing the Legion announcement at FanFest. Now that's left in pubs are clueless blueberries who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. I've been in a squad of 6 and we're the only guys with crazy WPs and doing anything on the field. So I don't know what you're experiencing. I see pubs are even in a much more worse state and PC (where prototypes are abundant) is the only form of real competition. There is no such thing as protostomping in pubs or poor matchmaking. Just poor players. Not trying to be mean or ignorant, its just what I see. Says the guy playing over a year running full proto and a full proto squad. Yeah, I'm sure you were a badass killer from day one and none of the above has anything to do with it, it's just this generation of players suck. Because, that's why.
Onesimus Tarsus Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 2059	Posted - 2014.06.07 16:06:00 - [34] - Quote Matchmaking by K/D(r) and then WP/D(r) and this whole problem evaporates like hand sanitizer on a car's hood in direct sunlight. Also, all tactics ans weapons are balanced, and NPE improves. Plus, we get to see all those really great proto players playing each other to see who's best. I'm sure they'll line up for that. Battlefield 1943. Running since 2009. I'm diskinetic, BTW. Birth, growth, decline, death.
Soreconyr Rise Of Old Dudes 18	Posted - 2014.06.07 16:36:00 - [35] - Quote I'm just trying to burn all that I've earned and collected. If it happens to be 1000 well-armed Sentinels, so be it. I saved them for PC, but apparently I'm too scrubish for a proper invite. Now, the game is dead and I have some primo inventory and nowhere else to use it. My bad.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 797	Posted - 2014.06.07 16:50:00 - [36] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: This is Michael Arck. I am well known for expressing my opinion whether you like it or not. No, I'm not the guy who says what everybody else says just to be in some cool kids club or to be accepted. What I say, I believe in and I live by. If you think it's bullshit because it doesn't agree with your opinion, oh well. The truth of the matter is, public matches aren't competitive. Reason why folks leave pub matches to go to PC and get crushed, becoming disheartened about playing in PC. Yes, you can have some good games in pubs but to measure your skill according to pubs really doesn't amount to much. The truth of the matter is protostomping does not, I repeat, does not happen as often as implied by those whom feel otherwise. There are people who will just side with anything negative just to continue spouting negative energy. Protostomping was mainly committed by players who often PC. With a bankroll to support and after months of working hard to achieve level 5 in a dropsuit, these players would use the same PC tactics in pubs. Hence the protostomping. Instead of working and coordinating with teammates, disorganized blues got protostomped into oblivion. But back to the point... Protostomping hardly ever happens in pubs like it did before. I've been playing Dust 514 for about two years now. I play a string a matches in one sitting. I'm curious to know if you know what a prototype is because you just might be getting stomped by ADV suits and calling it protostomping. You can ask seasoned players (and I would be surprised if they say otherwise) if protostomping happens often in pubs and the reply would be no, compared to how prevalent it was before. You couldn't breathe back then without protos on your neck with a tanks hammering the nail in the coffin. It's so easy nowadays to destroy in pubs because honestly, plenty of players lack skill. That's not being mean or offensive, that's just the truth. Why I look at guys weird when they want to boast about how they got 40 kills and only 3 deaths. You're playing in pubs where clueless blueberries run rampant. Since my question wasn't answered, let me ask this again. In the last 10 games anybody has played, how many times were you "protostomped"? 8/10, though that is not entirely accurate as I was on the stomping team some of those matches. OH/IH squad for most of them, LKC for the other with 9 LKC players, all running proto. This is more or less typical not unusual. Simple knowledge of statistics, or even English, will explain that "most" players can't be bad, most are average. Your argument is that the average player is getting stomped, by people using coordinated tactics in proto gear, but it is not protostomping, it is just the stompees suck. Although an ad hominem argument, it is true you make the stupidest comments in your posts of almost all posters. You certainly give even Spkr a run for his money. Because, that's why.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4123	Posted - 2014.06.07 17:14:00 - [37] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Here is one you might not have anticipated... "I care very little for the opinions of the poors so i don't have to justify anything to you and i will continue to stomp." Leave it to Viktor to be the number one douche amongst all the proto stompers. And for that, I salute you. It's really disturbing the amount of likes i get from being a complete ass hole on these forums... 1337 PLC I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 50Mil SP) Chat Channel: "Vik PC"
Chimichanga66605 Vader's Taco Shack 151	Posted - 2014.06.07 17:14:00 - [38] - Quote Hello thread of many laughs, hows it going? Loved the vid Shayz. Anyways, I just wanted to stop in & give my .02 ISK. Here it is: I bring Proto whenever I can afford it. I enjoy the **** out of Redlining. And I'm not sorry. -Chimi out, o7 Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist "Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
SteelheadPep SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 147	Posted - 2014.06.07 17:43:00 - [39] - Quote CCP drove the console player base away when they snubbed us.Yes proto stomping has always been part of this game unfortunately. Many console players have left while others are burning through their ISK and taking out their frustrations on the mercs who have wandered into this bloodbath.I have noticed more new players or to be more critical, the number of players still playing are green.And so the death spiral continues, I jump on and sqaudup with whomsoever will have me and throw myself like a bezerker into the fray.Try to help the doe eyed noobs whenever I can and try to make it hard for the proto sqauds.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 667	Posted - 2014.06.07 17:50:00 - [40] - Quote thesse days you dont need proto gear to stomp. its fairly easy with lower end gear. the reason you are failing is not because you dont have the gear or sp. its because you dont have the same months of playing the same maps with the same guns and gear. also you expect to make a differance on the battlefield and this is your first fps? i think you should play some other games. stomps happen in every fps.

Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 309	Posted - 2014.06.07 17:51:00 - [41] - Quote Who need to protostomp ? Nyain san, especially milkman proved you only need an adv tank with friends to stomp...
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 1075	Posted - 2014.06.07 18:17:00 - [42] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duran Lex wrote: This is Michael Arck. He is well known for spouting bullshit on the forums. Simply ignore him. Ad hominem is such a wonderful staple of forum warfare. "I can't present a valid observation or counterpoint, clearly the other side is an idiot." I never commented on anything that has to do with this particular topic. I never had any intention on posting about this particular topic, for its overdrawn after a year of complaints. I merely pointed out my opinion of constantly seeing the things he says on this forum. Anyone who voices their opinions as if they are facts, in my eyes, are spouting bullshit and should be ignored. End of story, as off topic as it may have been.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3615	Posted - 2014.06.07 19:26:00 - [43] - Quote Okay here's my real opinion: If you only have like 2 guys in a squad with proto and they get 40-50 kills, it's not proto stomping. They're just good players who were against a team that pushed very hard against them. They can still lose the match as they are only 2 people and can't be everywhere at once. If you have a squad full of 6 guys you KNOW all run proto, it's proto stomping. If you're fighting for kills the entire time against the other protos on your team, it's proto stomping. If you don't give the enemy team a chancce and instead push to the redline, it's proto stomping. So really, the main issue is not that players run proto, it's that they mainly only play in the same squads or on the same team...which leads to them competing against each other. In that video I posted, they even talk about this exact thing: "This isn't war, this is SPORT!" As a player that runs proto almost 80% of the time, I never run in proto squads anymore. It's boring, I'm having to compete against other players for points, and we hardly ever get a fair or competitive match. But squadding up with only one or two guys works really well and the matches turn out to be a lot more fair and balanced. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 189	Posted - 2014.06.07 19:40:00 - [44] - Quote Albyat Tyre wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Been a problem since I started... Join a corp or get raped and beaten How about leave PC and factional as is ( for corp gang members, so they can "play" with each other ) Them make public matches random every time, with one minute on the battle bridge to squad up. Squad finder is filled with " proto only, mic's only, b.s. No good for new players anyway ) Then start a 5-10 minute timer if you leave battle before you can join another ( so you can't just join and quit till your on the " right " team, or leaving because your getting stomped which is part of the problem also ). Or newbs unite! See a q-sync? Leave before you feed the trolls, it only makes them happy. Personally I always run solo, squaring rarely... Shouldn't be necessary. Went 43-3 today, 5 rounds in a row #1 on the leaderboard ( 3 times on the defeated team one round 2-7 ) guess I finally got good? Ahh yes... I remember you. I would be impressed if those high KDR's were real fighting.... You used RE to get those numbers. Try to fight with a gun... Your style is Cheap and cowardly at best. Don't forget it was also a basic logi, basic rr, and basic re's, with 2 k-17 hives. And maybe 10 kills with re's. Almost felt bad for that team.. Then I noticed it was a stack of ****** corp players. Lonewolf till I die
Michael Arck 4622	Posted - 2014.06.07 20:02:00 - [45] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: I never commented on anything that has to do with this particular topic. I never had any intention on posting about this particular topic, for its overdrawn after a year of complaints. I merely pointed out my opinion of constantly seeing the things he says on this forum. Anyone who voices their opinions as if they are facts, in my eyes, are spouting bullshit and should be ignored. LOL this is hilarious. Admits that he came into the thread just to say my opinion is bullshit. When ironically, there are others who share my opinion. Hey, I would love to settle this mano y mano, so hopefully I see you on the battlefield. That is, if you still play this game instead of just being a forum warrior Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
THUNDERGROOVE The Last of DusT. 899	Posted - 2014.06.07 23:19:00 - [46] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Your team had poor players. This is the actual problem. >Team quota reached Darnit I have to wait for one of the blueberry shit LAVs to get blown up:(
KingBabar MAG was better... 2602	Posted - 2014.06.07 23:43:00 - [47] - Quote LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 354	Posted - 2014.06.07 23:56:00 - [48] - Quote KingBabar wrote: LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! DUDE!! You wrote a Dear John letter about you leaving and you're still here! What in the blue blazers?! Saying what's on people's minds
KingBabar MAG was better... 2602	Posted - 2014.06.08 00:38:00 - [49] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: KingBabar wrote: LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! DUDE!! You wrote a Dear John letter about you leaving and you're still here! What in the blue blazers?! Currently I don't have a "gaming community to be a part of", besides our Clan forums and my close friends. Anyways, don't mind why I'm here (not much at all these days) and rather focus on what I have to say.... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2674	Posted - 2014.06.08 00:43:00 - [50] - Quote Gemini Cuspid wrote: Stacking + proto setups with characters having well over 24+million SP = Dust514 maintain player retention for new players as well as decrease the amount of time a player will continue player. This basically means the game is designed essentially to run itself into a financially obsolete in under 2 years which is pretty grim perspective as it relied more on microtransactions than anything else to keep itself alive. So if anything, stack and stomp away and that's only further prove how CCP is utterly incompetent with gaming designs and schemes for FPS and how Dust514's success was never about platform but how they can't even design a game that maintains a degree of relevancy for at least 2 years. I'm not your research but by all means visit the EvE end of the forums about Dust and Legion, then head to other forums from Planetside to even Killzone and Halo. This game is laughing stock of anything FPS based and it's reputation for being horribly bad begins with how players interact with the game in the first month. And yea because protostomping with player stacking directly contributes to this, it's been a rallying call of why Dust continues to fail. For the record just came out of a stacked player battle and I came out 8:1. Second highest was 3:16. The other side was 28:1, 20:1, 16:1. They also had 8 ppl in their corp. I know a stomp when I see it and it takes me more than 3 shots to take you out on a shotgun from upclose. So by all means, play the world's saddest song on the world's tiniest violin for those subject to protostomping, I'll be playing the same song when Dust 514 gets upended because they can't do anything about sh!t like this. Dust is already dead, though?

Zirzo Valcyn Gunners Acadamy 554	Posted - 2014.06.08 00:46:00 - [51] - Quote well if decide to play another FPS your going to run into the same issue of players who grinded longer are going to have scopes, grips, barrel attachments, ammo, etc. you dont have access to. it's not unique to DUST. if you want a fair FPS with no equipment unlocks there's always battlefield 1943 for like $15 on PSN store. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
KingBabar MAG was better... 2602	Posted - 2014.06.08 00:57:00 - [52] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: well if decide to play another FPS your going to run into the same issue of players who grinded longer are going to have scopes, grips, barrel attachments, ammo, etc. you dont have access to. it's not unique to DUST. if you want a fair FPS with no equipment unlocks there's always battlefield 1943 for like $15 on PSN store. it's not the older players fault for using stuff he grinded for it's CCP's bad for not providing us casual matches that restrict higher level gear ^ FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Espartoi Orkz Clan 227	Posted - 2014.06.08 02:34:00 - [53] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: well if decide to play another FPS your going to run into the same issue of players who grinded longer are going to have scopes, grips, barrel attachments, ammo, etc. you dont have access to. it's not unique to DUST. if you want a fair FPS with no equipment unlocks there's always battlefield 1943 for like $15 on PSN store. it's not the older players fault for using stuff he grinded for it's CCP's bad for not providing us casual matches that restrict higher level gear I had battlefield 1943... it was glorious. I just cant like BF3 and beyond. At least we are not stuck on health regeneration.....for now. Shoot, Smash, Stomp. One must never go full Hodor.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 309	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:20:00 - [54] - Quote People simply dont regroup most of the time, and go alone like heroes... And get killed by a shotgun in the back or a lone heavy laughing, when you spawn somewhere, just regroup, it will help 99% of the time make the game harder for the other team. Imagine a war where a country send troops one at a time thats what happen when your team craps on the floor...
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1527	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:38:00 - [55] - Quote its called coordination and tactics if all it takes to be a proto stomper is intelligence guess i cant argue that i am not a proto stomper anymore sighs.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1527	Posted - 2014.06.08 16:49:00 - [56] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: KingBabar wrote: LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! DUDE!! You wrote a Dear John letter about you leaving and you're still here! What in the blue blazers?! Currently I don't have a "gaming community to be a part of", besides our Clan forums and my close friends. Anyways, don't mind why I'm here (not much at all these days) and rather focus on what I have to say.... seriously like isnt it sad that the only reason were still in dust is because there isnt anything better atm..what has the gaming industry come to. sighs and king babar is right dust has a much lower than average fps playerbase..wanna know how i know? because im not an fps player before dust..i played a few but so wasnt my forte...and i have been stomping in dust for 2 years...so either 1 the game requires no skill or 2 the average player requires no skill to decimate side note sometimes i feel like im facing stoned 4 years olds when i play this game seriously how many ways are there to insta pop a suit of any lvl? re's forge to the face...? rail turret round 1 shot...? sniping is easier in dust than any game i have ever played (how do i know because ima terrible sniper and i can snipe in dust) omg qq 3x maddies..(morte looks at the rail tank that can1- 2 shot it) sobs sobs qq tank in general( glances at the jihad jeep) sobs sobs 6 nyain san..(looks as dragonfly bpo fit with stnd re's that one shot proto suits cost 1500isk) sobs sobs python...(looks at cheapo armor dropship with death touch vs shield durpships) like seriously ccp gives out these things i like to call nub crutches to make this game with built in aimbot...and simplistic physics even easier and still waaa qq sobs...wtf
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:33:00 - [57] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Here is one you might not have anticipated... "I care very little for the opinions of the poors so i don't have to justify anything to you and i will continue to stomp." Leave it to Viktor to be the number one douche amongst all the proto stompers. And for that, I salute you. Except that Vic sucks, I once killed him 3 times in a row on a roof top he was camping in full proto with a viziam on his own ****** links he kept spawning back in on, Im pretty sure I was in adv but maybe even my dren, either way hes a good example of someone who gets skills simply because he has better gear. He could never solo a good proto, a basic heavy, or me in anything im wearing.
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2014.06.08 18:37:00 - [58] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: KingBabar wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: KingBabar wrote: LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! DUDE!! You wrote a Dear John letter about you leaving and you're still here! What in the blue blazers?! Currently I don't have a "gaming community to be a part of", besides our Clan forums and my close friends. Anyways, don't mind why I'm here (not much at all these days) and rather focus on what I have to say.... seriously like isnt it sad that the only reason were still in dust is because there isnt anything better atm..what has the gaming industry come to. sighs and king babar is right dust has a much lower than average fps playerbase..wanna know how i know? because im not an fps player before dust..i played a few but so wasnt my forte...and i have been stomping in dust for 2 years...so either 1 the game requires no skill or 2 the average player requires no skill to decimate side note sometimes i feel like im facing stoned 4 years olds when i play this game seriously how many ways are there to insta pop a suit of any lvl? re's forge to the face...? rail turret round 1 shot...? sniping is easier in dust than any game i have ever played (how do i know because ima terrible sniper and i can snipe in dust) omg qq 3x maddies..(morte looks at the rail tank that can1- 2 shot it) sobs sobs qq tank in general( glances at the jihad jeep) sobs sobs 6 nyain san..(looks as dragonfly bpo fit with stnd re's that one shot proto suits cost 1500isk) sobs sobs python...(looks at cheapo armor dropship with death touch vs shield durpships) like seriously ccp gives out these things i like to call nub crutches to make this game with built in aimbot...and simplistic physics even easier and still waaa qq sobs...wtf Ive never seen you do well on your feet, Babar is a diffrent story, you though you are bad, Aldin is the only one among you any good, and his skills are offset by that nasally, whiny, nerdy ass voice.
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:37:00 - [59] - Quote KingBabar wrote: LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! I can agree with most of this but it still doesnt negate the corps who regularly full on pub stomp. My question is why? Its so boring. Challenge yourself man, take off the scout gk0 with a six kin, try a std gal assault with an ion pistol, and a gek.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10542	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:40:00 - [60] - Quote Meh depending on the scenario I will use whatever level of efficiency of gear I like. I am not responsible for your enjoyment if it is at detriment to my own, as such..... Amarr Victor! "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5964	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:55:00 - [61] - Quote The problem is more so idiots playing this game like a bunch of beheaded chickens against an organised squad, regardless of equipment. I've seen a Q synced squad of Onslaught loose against me and a bunch of bluedots I got in my squad that actually wanted to fight with me. While I know they aren't the best corp in any means they are still a decent threat in any match and would spell doom for an unorganised team, let alone a double stack. This goes to show you what a Little Teamwork and tactics can do. That was the only time I've used a dropship as a constant transport and support craft, the way it should ******* be. Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3439	Posted - 2014.06.10 02:01:00 - [62] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Duran Lex wrote: I never commented on anything that has to do with this particular topic. I never had any intention on posting about this particular topic, for its overdrawn after a year of complaints. I merely pointed out my opinion of constantly seeing the things he says on this forum. Anyone who voices their opinions as if they are facts, in my eyes, are spouting bullshit and should be ignored. LOL this is hilarious. Admits that he came into the thread just to say my opinion is bullshit. When ironically, there are others who share my opinion. Hey, I would love to settle this mano y mano, so hopefully I see you on the battlefield. That is, if you still play this game instead of just being a forum warrior I would just like say that while I have no opinion on this matter (I dislike proto stompers but am frequently guilty of it myself, though it usually just happens. As opposed to being organised; sometimes it works out that everyone in my squad feels like proto- ing) your opinions are almost cookie-cutter. If I were to ask myself 'WWMAD', it would be 'tell people to HTFU you're bad at DUST'. BlowoutForCPM
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 371	Posted - 2014.06.10 02:16:00 - [63] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Proto Stomping Bruh Bruh!!! You just made me spit up my drink Goodness I haven't had a good laugh like that in a while, Lol Redberries!
OZAROW Heaven's Lost Property 1433	Posted - 2014.06.10 02:20:00 - [64] - Quote What if my aur refunds bought thousands of guns and suits on sale so I can bank millions of isk, does that still make me a pub stomper lol SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 311	Posted - 2014.06.10 03:21:00 - [65] - Quote Ya know I'm not a stomper for the record but proto stomping was bad when the game had hope..... the game is now being ready to shut down why should they give two *****? People posted this before failed now will change nothing. And all you did was complain and talk from your ass, and didn't give a solution and knowing people were going to flame. So If you cant do it I will easy solution extended academy time and better introduction to the game and high sec low sec maps (maybe with high sec low sec maps /: ) and those were reasonable. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1531	Posted - 2014.06.13 02:04:00 - [66] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: KingBabar wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: KingBabar wrote: LOL - go and play KZ4 for a week and come up in your noob gear vs a highly experienced and well equipped squad of 8 in a 12 vs 12 game... Yes its hard, you get raped, still though, a decent player like myself have about a 0.8 KDR playing mostly alone (amd I do play support with less HP and weaker guns, and without the kill-giving abilities...) for a week. In Dust though, its about actaually a 1.6 KDR during the same circumstanses. There are so many cheap ways to success in Dust that Vet stomping is actually, against popular beliefs, not as bad as in many other games. You should've tried and go against a squad of my clan in MAG at low level and the experience would be much thougher than in Dust, most likely you wouldn't even get across the redline.... Say whatever you want, nothing any of you say will negate the fact that the average playerbase in Dust is the least skilled playerbase I've ever come across in any game ever. Is it the PC master race giving it a go? Is it the EVEtards? Is it the wast numbers of noob gamers being drawned because its a free to play? I honestly don't know. KingBabar's hot tip for getting good at Dust: - Go in there and fight, stop camping on roofs, pipes, in tanks, fatsuits or at the redline. You don't get any better by playing like a bltch! DUDE!! You wrote a Dear John letter about you leaving and you're still here! What in the blue blazers?! Currently I don't have a "gaming community to be a part of", besides our Clan forums and my close friends. Anyways, don't mind why I'm here (not much at all these days) and rather focus on what I have to say.... seriously like isnt it sad that the only reason were still in dust is because there isnt anything better atm..what has the gaming industry come to. sighs and king babar is right dust has a much lower than average fps playerbase..wanna know how i know? because im not an fps player before dust..i played a few but so wasnt my forte...and i have been stomping in dust for 2 years...so either 1 the game requires no skill or 2 the average player requires no skill to decimate side note sometimes i feel like im facing stoned 4 years olds when i play this game seriously how many ways are there to insta pop a suit of any lvl? re's forge to the face...? rail turret round 1 shot...? sniping is easier in dust than any game i have ever played (how do i know because ima terrible sniper and i can snipe in dust) omg qq 3x maddies..(morte looks at the rail tank that can1- 2 shot it) sobs sobs qq tank in general( glances at the jihad jeep) sobs sobs 6 nyain san..(looks as dragonfly bpo fit with stnd re's that one shot proto suits cost 1500isk) sobs sobs python...(looks at cheapo armor dropship with death touch vs shield durpships) like seriously ccp gives out these things i like to call nub crutches to make this game with built in aimbot...and simplistic physics even easier and still waaa qq sobs...wtf Ive never seen you do well on your feet, Babar is a diffrent story, you though you are bad, Aldin is the only one among you any good, and his skills are offset by that nasally, whiny, nerdy ass voice. ive never seen you period so whats your point?


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