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THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1183	Posted - 2014.06.06 09:59:00 - [1] - Quote Got stunlocked today every single time i was sprinting as a scout and got hit by an ar....fix please. Til then I'm using the ar... Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens Final Resolution. 2741	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:13:00 - [2] - Quote Stop smoking pot. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1183	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:21:00 - [3] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Stop smoking pot. Stack 4 complex kin cats on a scout then get shot dozens of seperate times while sprinting by an ar that turns you from the fastest suit in the game to the slower than my gallente heavy with 4 complex plates the instant the ar round connects before you doubt me. Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 27	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:27:00 - [4] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Stop smoking pot. Stack 4 complex kin cats on a scout then get shot dozens of seperate times while sprinting by an ar that turns you from the fastest suit in the game to the slower than my gallente heavy with 4 complex plates the instant the ar round connects before you doubt me. Hey it's CoD multiplayer! You get scratched by a bullet, you stop sprinting/moving fast. Oh I forgt this is DUST right?
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1183	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:32:00 - [5] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Stop smoking pot. Stack 4 complex kin cats on a scout then get shot dozens of seperate times while sprinting by an ar that turns you from the fastest suit in the game to the slower than my gallente heavy with 4 complex plates the instant the ar round connects before you doubt me. Hey it's CoD multiplayer! You get scratched by a bullet, you stop sprinting/moving fast. Oh I forgt this is DUST right? Cods better than dust. Or at least some cods are I should say, most of the new cods suck ****... I only play dust because.....uhh....well I was gonna say to cap but i sure as hell ain't playing legion so....??? Idk Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 2018	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:33:00 - [6] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Got stunlocked today every single time i was sprinting as a scout and got hit by an ar....fix please. Til then I'm using the ar... In other words if true expect my corp to all start running AR's again. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3154	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:37:00 - [7] - Quote Its just a constant circule of broken -_- "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Sum1ne Else G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1170	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:44:00 - [8] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Stop smoking pot. Stack 4 complex kin cats on a scout then get shot dozens of seperate times while sprinting by an ar that turns you from the fastest suit in the game to the slower than my gallente heavy with 4 complex plates the instant the ar round connects before you doubt me. Dude, you're doing it all wrong! m/s is capped at 10. YOU ARE BREAKING THE GAME!!
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10151	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:46:00 - [9] - Quote All weapons still stun lock. I can tell that the HMG still slows me down. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1316	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:46:00 - [10] - Quote If this is true (i have my doubts...) might it actually be a good thing? AR is supposed to be king of cqc but is dominated by cr. This might actually make it useful.

THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1183	Posted - 2014.06.06 10:59:00 - [11] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Stop smoking pot. Stack 4 complex kin cats on a scout then get shot dozens of seperate times while sprinting by an ar that turns you from the fastest suit in the game to the slower than my gallente heavy with 4 complex plates the instant the ar round connects before you doubt me. Dude, you're doing it all wrong! m/s is capped at 10. YOU ARE BREAKING THE GAME!! hat figures, I thought my triple complex kincat seemed just as ridiculously fast as my 4 complex kincat one Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4708	Posted - 2014.06.06 11:38:00 - [12] - Quote Pothead is correct, I was stun locked multiple times by Plasma Rifles last night.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 268	Posted - 2014.06.06 12:24:00 - [13] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Pothead is correct, I was stun locked multiple times by Plasma Rifles last night. Hmm, CCP did say they set the value for the stun locking to zero (0). There shouldn't be any slow down happening. Unless they CCP'd the whole thing up. Possible. Desperate attempt to get BPOs
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1316	Posted - 2014.06.06 12:35:00 - [14] - Quote Duplicate post
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2016	Posted - 2014.06.06 12:37:00 - [15] - Quote Sounds like they're letting upper management monkey with the code before implementation Minmatar Weapons Specialist Explosives Connoisseur Logi for Hire
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2400	Posted - 2014.06.06 12:58:00 - [16] - Quote I know my CR is not slowing scouts anymore. They can dance through fire a lot more easily.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1481	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:01:00 - [17] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Pothead is correct, I was stun locked multiple times by Plasma Rifles last night. Hmm, CCP did say they set the value for the stun locking to zero (0). There shouldn't be any slow down happening. Unless they CCP'd the whole thing up. Possible. more likely some players are making things up also there is a sprint bug and speed is capped, he might be just confusing those things with the on hit slow down frmo last past because he obviously has no clue what he is talking about
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1391	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:16:00 - [18] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Stop smoking pot. No
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5888	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:22:00 - [19] - Quote I'm putting my money on kids making things up Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2400	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:26:00 - [20] - Quote "stunlock" is a stupid hyperbolic term, like "overpowered" and "underpowered" anyway. Until we can figure out how to use measured constructive terminology that describes the 'pain' we feel then we will have a kind of conversation that causes developers to hammer-balance stuff into and out of irrelevance. Don't over exagerate with your terminology. Were you really "locked' into place? No. Were you no longer extremely fast and able to move the width of a body inbetween shots of a RR effectively allowing you to dodge bullets? Maybe? Stunlock is a stupid term. You are not stunned as if unable to fire. You are not locked into place. I like the term 'sloth' effect or 'damage fatigue'


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 2191	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:34:00 - [21] - Quote The effect was called "slowdown on hit" and was a base value, optimized for the AR, but it was tiny and AR ruled supreme so noone noticed. Now that HMG and CR are prevalent, this became an issue due to their higher ROF. We could have changed every value to the AR value divided by the AR ROF times every weapons ROF to balance it out, but we didn't. We just put every value for every weapon to zero. There is, and I say it as certainly as I can, no way the AR is stunlocking. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 168	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:37:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The effect was called "slowdown on hit" and was a base value, optimized for the AR, but it was tiny and AR ruled supreme so noone noticed. Now that HMG and CR are prevalent, this became an issue due to their higher ROF. We could have changed every value to the AR value divided by the AR ROF times every weapons ROF to balance it out, but we didn't. We just put every value for every weapon to zero. There is, and I say it as certainly as I can, no way the AR is stunlocking. And from the mouth of babes I noticed nothing slowing me down when shot with AR in the matches I've played but I don't run at 10 m/s either, so....
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5972	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:39:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The effect was called "slowdown on hit" and was a base value, optimized for the AR, but it was tiny and AR ruled supreme so noone noticed. Now that HMG and CR are prevalent, this became an issue due to their higher ROF. We could have changed every value to the AR value divided by the AR ROF times every weapons ROF to balance it out, but we didn't. We just put every value for every weapon to zero. There is, and I say it as certainly as I can, no way the AR is stunlocking. It's not. There was an -EXTREME- difference in performance the day before Hotfix Alpha and the day of Hotfix Alpha. Players with good gun-game and proper strafe skills can easily wreck someone with an Assault Rifle, it's just too hard to hit a moving target without the stun lock, imo. Not that it's a bad thing, just stating that I can absolutely confirm that there is a noticeable difference in it's performance and if anyone is having problems with stun-locking at this point, you're probably just really really really bad at strafing EDIT: Sure you didn't just run out of stamina...? Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2400	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:52:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The effect was called "slowdown on hit" and was a base value, optimized for the AR, but it was tiny and AR ruled supreme so noone noticed. Now that HMG and CR are prevalent, this became an issue due to their higher ROF. We could have changed every value to the AR value divided by the AR ROF times every weapons ROF to balance it out, but we didn't. We just put every value for every weapon to zero. There is, and I say it as certainly as I can, no way the AR is stunlocking. The difference between anti shield high ROF weapon and an anti-armor high RoF weapon is probably that the anti shield weapon will feel better against a quick strafing shield based suit. These suits will be moving faster anyway and be taking less damage from similar RoF CRs and RRs. So when killed by ARs they'd rightly seem more effective.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2123	Posted - 2014.06.06 15:25:00 - [25] - Quote I've played 6 matches since the release of Alpha. Picked many fights with multiple opponents. No sign of stunlocking at all. PSN: RationalSpark
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 485	Posted - 2014.06.06 15:54:00 - [26] - Quote Only thing I noticed is that the AR now feels crazy good. The small damage buff did wonders for me.
Denesian Morenti The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 19	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:06:00 - [27] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Only thing I noticed is that the AR now feels crazy good. The small damage buff did wonders for me. Agreed! Thanks for bringing life back to the AR! I like my raspberries melted with a side of ice cream.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 217	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:16:00 - [28] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: "stunlock" is a stupid hyperbolic term, like "overpowered" and "underpowered" anyway. Until we can figure out how to use measured constructive terminology that describes the 'pain' we feel then we will have a kind of conversation that causes developers to hammer-balance stuff into and out of irrelevance. Don't over exagerate with your terminology. Were you really "locked' into place? No. Were you no longer extremely fast and able to move the width of a body inbetween shots of a RR effectively allowing you to dodge bullets? Maybe? Stunlock is a stupid term. You are not stunned as if unable to fire. You are not locked into place. I like the term 'sloth' effect or 'damage fatigue' I like the term "slow nailed" which would then be shortened to "SNAILED". THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
MocHolliday Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 36	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:21:00 - [29] - Quote The burst HMG suffered badly from this amendment. It is much less effective as players can jump out of the burst.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5895	Posted - 2014.06.06 17:25:00 - [30] - Quote AR still needs a very small further buff if it is to be competitive with the Other Assault Rifles but it does feel much better. Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'



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