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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

The CPM is an elected body of seven members, but it only becomes a body once elected. Until the community at large select those to represent them; we are members of that same community just like everyone else, which we remain even after we are elected. We are simply individual players with an interest to assist the game; Nothing more. Being a candidate is not a position, it is a label. A simple sign of intent, and one that we give ourselves; not one that has been earned. Until the community decide that we are something, we are nothing. We must never seek to separate ourselves from them, elevate ourselves above them or decide things in their absence.

Anything I need to say about the elections, the process after or to anyone involved I would like to say out here, in the public sphere. I cannot envision anything I would need to say to a candidate that cannot be said in the communityGÇÖs space for all to see. Here the players can judge me on everything I say and how I treat my fellow candidates. Nothing hidden, no closed doors, no hidden agendas.

I would be glad to take part in pre-election events or to talk openly with the other candidates, but I must politely decline the invitation to join you in a private channel.

Ok, you have lost my vote. I would have pegged you as one of my tope picks for CPM, but the last thing I want is a member on the Council who canGÇÖt work with others and who will just be disruptive and cause drama.

If you canGÇÖt form close working relationships with the people who want to be part of the CPM before the elections, do you really expect us to believe that you will be able to work with them after the election?

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Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3590	Posted - 2014.06.05 12:21:00 - [31] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: The CPM is an elected body of seven members, but it only becomes a body once elected. Until the community at large select those to represent them; we are members of that same community just like everyone else, which we remain even after we are elected. We are simply individual players with an interest to assist the game; Nothing more. Being a candidate is not a position, it is a label. A simple sign of intent, and one that we give ourselves; not one that has been earned. Until the community decide that we are something, we are nothing. We must never seek to separate ourselves from them, elevate ourselves above them or decide things in their absence. Anything I need to say about the elections, the process after or to anyone involved I would like to say out here, in the public sphere. I cannot envision anything I would need to say to a candidate that cannot be said in the communityGÇÖs space for all to see. Here the players can judge me on everything I say and how I treat my fellow candidates. Nothing hidden, no closed doors, no hidden agendas. I would be glad to take part in pre-election events or to talk openly with the other candidates, but I must politely decline the invitation to join you in a private channel. Ok, you have lost my vote. I would have pegged you as one of my tope picks for CPM, but the last thing I want is a member on the Council who canGÇÖt work with others and who will just be disruptive and cause drama. If you canGÇÖt form close working relationships with the people who want to be part of the CPM before the elections, do you really expect us to believe that you will be able to work with them after the election? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5927	Posted - 2014.06.05 12:27:00 - [32] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: The CPM is an elected body of seven members, but it only becomes a body once elected. Until the community at large select those to represent them; we are members of that same community just like everyone else, which we remain even after we are elected. We are simply individual players with an interest to assist the game; Nothing more. Being a candidate is not a position, it is a label. A simple sign of intent, and one that we give ourselves; not one that has been earned. Until the community decide that we are something, we are nothing. We must never seek to separate ourselves from them, elevate ourselves above them or decide things in their absence. Anything I need to say about the elections, the process after or to anyone involved I would like to say out here, in the public sphere. I cannot envision anything I would need to say to a candidate that cannot be said in the communityGÇÖs space for all to see. Here the players can judge me on everything I say and how I treat my fellow candidates. Nothing hidden, no closed doors, no hidden agendas. I would be glad to take part in pre-election events or to talk openly with the other candidates, but I must politely decline the invitation to join you in a private channel. Ok, you have lost my vote. I would have pegged you as one of my tope picks for CPM, but the last thing I want is a member on the Council who canGÇÖt work with others and who will just be disruptive and cause drama. If you canGÇÖt form close working relationships with the people who want to be part of the CPM before the elections, do you really expect us to believe that you will be able to work with them after the election? Again, I can't help but bring up what he expects will happen when/if he gets elected - are the other six candidates who decided to be evil conformists and join the channel just going to fade away and leave him to run solo? OH GOD IT'S THE LANGOLIERS Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2112	Posted - 2014.06.05 12:28:00 - [33] - Quote Your vote is yours. But I am still at a loss here. Maybe you can help me understand. Because I didn't want to join one channel, but am plenty available in the official election forum you can conclude I cannot work with others? ANd because other posters started a quite colourful debate, I am somehow responsible for their actions? Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5927	Posted - 2014.06.05 12:37:00 - [34] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Your vote is yours. But I am still at a loss here. Maybe you can help me understand. Because I didn't want to join one channel, but am plenty available in the official election forum you can conclude I cannot work with others? ANd because other posters started a quite colourful debate, I am somehow responsible for their actions? Wasn't that you didn't want to join the channel, it's what you tried to turn the channel into. "Here the players can judge me on everything I say and how I treat my fellow candidates. Nothing hidden, no closed doors, no hidden agendas." It's a nice play, don't get me wrong, but it only works if there's some validity to the statement It's generally not wise to set yourself up with something like, "How I treat my fellow candidates" and then basically insinuate that the channel is all about hidden agendas, evil conspiracies, **** propaganda, and fruit punch. Little exaggeration there but I figure I might as well to turn this little debate into something a little more light-hearted then it has been Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2112	Posted - 2014.06.05 12:48:00 - [35] - Quote It is you saying those things. Not me. You pulled those meanings from my post. I don't want closed doors? do you? I want my views to be available to all. Don't you? I want to be judged on everything I say. Don't you. Just because I say these things does not mean I am saying that you do not want these things. Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1513	Posted - 2014.06.05 12:58:00 - [36] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: It is you saying those things. Not me. You pulled those meanings from my post. I don't want closed doors? do you? I want my views to be available to all. Don't you? I want to be judged on everything I say. Don't you. Just because I say these things does not mean I am saying that you do not want these things. And when you sign the NDA.. still gonna preach the open doors policy on everything the CPM does? Delt for CPM1
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2112	Posted - 2014.06.05 13:00:00 - [37] - Quote Don't straw man me. I was clearly referencing the election in my main post. Quote: Anything I need to say about the elections, the process after or to anyone involved I would like to say out here Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5933	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:01:00 - [38] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: It is you saying those things. Not me. You pulled those meanings from my post. I don't want closed doors? do you? I want my views to be available to all. Don't you? I want to be judged on everything I say. Don't you. Just because I say these things does not mean I am saying that you do not want these things. Lol, think we're done here. Useful Links Aeon Amadi for CPM1
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14092	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:06:00 - [39] - Quote Well, this has started to get a little out of proportion here. Moss, you're inflaming things. @various people - You're inferring things. That goes for both Judge and the other CPM candidates, to various extents. Judge isn't accusing everyone of being corrupt politicians. Pyrex did, but that's in the other thread and that wasn't actually Judge. On the other hand, Judge - Was it really necessary to write several paragraphs on transparency in opposition to a simple chat offer? I'm not surprised it was taken as a snub. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1515	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:39:00 - [40] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Well, this has started to get a little out of proportion here. Moss, you're inflaming things. @various people - You're inferring things. That goes for both Judge and the other CPM candidates, to various extents. Judge isn't accusing everyone of being corrupt politicians. Pyrex did, but that's in the other thread and that wasn't actually Judge. On the other hand, Judge - Was it really necessary to write several paragraphs on transparency in opposition to a simple chat offer? I'm not surprised it was taken as a snub. Fair enough. You're still welcome to join the in game channel and the Skype channel judge. Delt for CPM1

Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1082	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:41:00 - [41] - Quote Just read back through this and was a bit surprised at the turn of the conversation. i'm not a candidate, simply an interested observer, and I for one would like the opportunity to meet and engage those that are prospective representatives of the community. I've found that I have shifted my thoughts on a few candidates based on positive interactions outside the forums. The communication means that I think other folks have engaged you on are simply locations where not just other candidates can chat with you but members of the community can as well. I think you would agree that something like Skype or in-game channels are a much more free flowing and dynamic than forum posting. For a candidate I view as an articulate poster / media maker it struck me that you only wanted to engage folks on your terms...that concerns me a little as a member of the community. To be clear, I'm not advocating for you to engage with people in a way that you don't feel is productive. I was a bit surprised at the tone of your responses - aloof and combative. I also fully acknowledge that some of the counter posts were a little sharp. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3596	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:42:00 - [42] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Your vote is yours. But I am still at a loss here. Maybe you can help me understand. Because I didn't want to join one channel, but am plenty available in the official election forum you can conclude I cannot work with others? ANd because other posters started a quite colourful debate, I am somehow responsible for their actions? It has more to do with you starting conspiracy theories. You are almost guaranteed a seat on the council, so there is no need for you to be adversarial. Yet you immediately start accusing the other candidates of elitism and thinking they are above everyone else. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3596	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:45:00 - [43] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: It is you saying those things. Not me. You pulled those meanings from my post. I don't want closed doors? do you? I want my views to be available to all. Don't you? I want to be judged on everything I say. Don't you. Just because I say these things does not mean I am saying that you do not want these things. Well, CEOPyrex CloneA certainly did not help by jumping on the bandwagon and running with it. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2112	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:46:00 - [44] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Well, this has started to get a little out of proportion here. Moss, you're inflaming things. @various people - You're inferring things. That goes for both Judge and the other CPM candidates, to various extents. Judge isn't accusing everyone of being corrupt politicians. Pyrex did, but that's in the other thread and that wasn't actually Judge. On the other hand, Judge - Was it really necessary to write several paragraphs on transparency in opposition to a simple chat offer? I'm not surprised it was taken as a snub. was it necessary? I thought about this, and I think it was. Forget Pyrex and delt stiring things up, and let's step back and take a breath. please extend me some patience here. I was going to just say no thank you, but I realised that would be taken as a plain snub. you asked me to dinner, I told you I was washing my hair that night. I wanted to say more, I though you deserved more. I think transparency doomed CPM 0. I really don't think this can be overstated. it greatly concerns me that CPM 1 avoids all accusations of distance from its community, and of forming opinions within itself. So I thought the best thing to do is to declare that during the election process I will make every effort to ensure that not a single accusation of distance can be levied at the new CPM. from its inception to it's death it must be untainted. I wanted it to be clear that being a candidate is not anything special. until elected I hold no office, and as such have no privilege. as a candidate I do not need to be part of a group, no matter their strengths, no matter their upstanding integrity. I am already part of a group, the community at large. if they cannot be in your group, how can I? It is this reason I talked about transparency. I levy no accusation but you have already stated that the Channel is building relationships, but these exist out of the view of the electorate. I want to be able to stand here on voting day, win or lose , and say that I said nothing that cannot be read by a voter. This is my reasoning. Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1517	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:59:00 - [45] - Quote I have created an open to everyone channel on Skype, if you want in just let me know, this includes everyone, not just candidates. Delt for CPM1 Moss-delt on skype
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2112	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:03:00 - [46] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: I have created an open to everyone channel on Skype, if you want in just let me know, this includes everyone, not just candidates. That's the spirit Delt! Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3603	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:09:00 - [47] - Quote This thread demonstrates exactly why the candidates should have a private Skype channel to get to know each other. When you donGÇÖt know someone it is much more likely that you will misinterpret what they post. I am not in the CPM1 Candidates Skype channel, because I am not running, and I donGÇÖt need to know that I can work with them or them with me. But I do want to be sure that they can work with each other. Every other CPM1 Candidates communication medium is open tot he public. I am in the CPM1 Candidates chat channel in game, and have had the opportunity to squad up with many of the candidates and get to know them better. I have listened to the Biomass Podcast where any of the CPM1 Candidates can come on as quests, although preferably not all in the same week or it would be complete chaos. The level of transparency of the CPM1 candidates has been very high, and really had not been questioned until now. It is a touchy subject, as it was one of the issues people had with CPM0 (wether warranted or not). I have confidence, because most of the Candidates had very little association before they declared their intent to run, and because most of the Candidates have a passion for the game, that if any of the CPM1 Candidates was not the same in private as they presented themselves to the Public, that they would be called out on it by the other candidates. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1085	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:12:00 - [48] - Quote Judge, Aside from the friction in the thread above I do want to pose some basic questions that i have engaged other candidates with. Specific to you, many folks know you from your videos and excellent "dropshippery" as one of my friends put it. What other aspects of the game play have you delved into with that level of depth that might surprise folks? Also, would you mind telling folks a little about yourself (education, time available, ext) that will help folks get to know you a little. I've modified my normal candidate questions to account for both Dust and Legion: 1) Other than the forums how do you intend to collect and communicate requests, needs, POV of the community? In particular, those outside your corp / alliance. 2) What level of interaction would you like to establish between the CPM and CSM? What areas are critical for you to work together on going forward. 3) What are the top 3 Dust related changes you would encourage CCP to make for the current player base in the next few months. I'm looking for concrete examples that are realistic to achieve. 4) What aspect or features in Legion that you've heard of are you most interested in working on? What features discussed so far are you most concerned about and why? (Note: my assumption is that there will be limited initial engagement in Legion as per CCP note but will likely have increased interaction as Legion development and the relationship between CCP and CPM1 grows.) 5) In Spring of 2015, when CPM1's term is up, what would you want people to have said about your tenure as a CPM member? Thank you for your time. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1085	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:17:00 - [49] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: I have created an open to everyone channel on Skype, if you want in just let me know, this includes everyone, not just candidates. That's the spirit Delt! That kind of comment is actually what could be perceived as irritating. To me it implies you are suspect of or devalue the exchanges that have been going on for the last few months. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2115	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:54:00 - [50] - Quote O_o I always figured we talked via Skype because it was a faster/easier means of communication than the forums. I mean hell we mostly just talk to each other about what we're drinking that night or how our boss at work is an *******. I mean I guess if it's important that my alcoholic preferences be public then you have a point, but honestly everyone is taking this waaay to seriously. Like Xel said, it's a social thing and a good way to see how candidates mesh with each other. I've actually had a positive change of opinion on some people who set the forum persona aside and talk in a more relaxed and casual setting. Such friction, sheesh. Y'all motherfuckers need to calm down. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1

Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1086	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:14:00 - [51] - Quote Judge, Would you be interested / available to come on the Biomassed Podcast to chat about how you think you can help the CPM, community, and CCP as we move forward? Despite the bit of friction in the thread so far you are a well known and respected community member that has helped quite a few folks (including me btw) with your videos and I think folks would like to hear from you. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2112	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:27:00 - [52] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Despite the bit of friction in the thread so far you are a well known and respected community member that has helped quite a few folks (including me btw) with your videos and I think folks would like to hear from you. pass me your schedule, and I am sure we can sort something out. Friction should not be seen as a bad thing. People disagree, act like dicks, make mistakes. What matters is the discorse, and the resolution. CPM 1 are going to fight. They need to be able to fight and then resolve their differences. Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2118	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:47:00 - [53] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Despite the bit of friction in the thread so far you are a well known and respected community member that has helped quite a few folks (including me btw) with your videos and I think folks would like to hear from you. pass me your schedule, and I am sure we can sort something out. Friction should not be seen as a bad thing. People disagree, act like dicks, make mistakes. What matters is the discorse, and the resolution. CPM 1 are going to fight. They need to be able to fight and then resolve their differences. Id actually disagree, a CPM that fights is a CPM that fails. If you beleive that fighting is the only way to resolve a disagreement, then I think you and I have a very different view on how to deal with colleagues in a professional seeting. I will agree that it's best if not everyone on CPM agrees with each other, but 'being a ****' and trying to resolve those differences with arguing and hostility, is not condusive to an effective and healthy council. There is a big difference between fighting/arguing, and having a constructive discussion. Knowing the difference is critical for a CPM member. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1089	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:48:00 - [54] - Quote We are on Sunday nights at 0300 UTC / 8pm PST. If you haven't checked out the show here's the Biomassed website with our episode library. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2114	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:52:00 - [55] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: If you beleive that fighting is the only way to resolve a disagreement, then I think you and I have a very different view on how to deal with colleagues in a professional seeting. Clearly fight is a synonym for disagreement. Judge For CPM 1 youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2120	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:55:00 - [56] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: If you beleive that fighting is the only way to resolve a disagreement, then I think you and I have a very different view on how to deal with colleagues in a professional seeting. Clearly fight is a synonym for disagreement. Well if it is for you I can't disagree. I personally keep the hostility associated with 'fighting' out of my disagreements. But to each his own. Best of luck with the election. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3471	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:33:00 - [57] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Do you have a Skype so we can get you into the candidate chat?.............The general hope is that post-election, CPM1 will be able to pretty immediately start working as a cohesive team. If you get elected...... The CPM is an elected body of seven members, but it only becomes a body once elected. Until the community at large select those to represent them; we are members of that same community just like everyone else, which we remain even after we are elected. We are simply individual players with an interest to assist the game; Nothing more. Being a candidate is not a position, it is a label. A simple sign of intent, and one that we give ourselves; not one that has been earned. Until the community decide that we are something, we are nothing. We must never seek to separate ourselves from them, elevate ourselves above them or decide things in their absence. Anything I need to say about the elections, the process after or to anyone involved I would like to say out here, in the public sphere. I cannot envision anything I would need to say to a candidate that cannot be said in the communityGÇÖs space for all to see. Here the players can judge me on everything I say and how I treat my fellow candidates. Nothing hidden, no closed doors, no hidden agendas. I would be glad to take part in pre-election events or to talk openly with the other candidates, but I must politely decline the invitation to join you in a private channel. It means No KRRROOOOOOM
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 853	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:28:00 - [58] - Quote Been killin a lil time as some stuff dries by reading through some of these CPM1 posts. This one definitely had me laughing a lil bit. Goodshow. PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R Underscore before and after the x
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2188	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:46:00 - [59] - Quote I agree with both sides. Each have its own virtues. The thing is, you can't have complete transparency and NDA at same time. NDA is a delimited space under an opaque heavy mantle while the other is out in the open, available for everyone. Internet King
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1429	Posted - 2014.06.06 00:10:00 - [60] - Quote The fact that other CPM candidates took what judge said in an accusatory manner shows that the ones unable to communicate in an orderly fashion are the other candidates. By being rash and creating drama in his thread, based on the views and accusations of a another player demonstrates that they are the one who would be prone to creating friction and discourse through out their CPM term. Jumping to conclusions without knowing what a person really means is a big flaw in some of the CPM candidates and has give me a complete idea of how their CPM term will be. Being accusatory and friction prone, the other CPM candidates do not have my vote or confidence based on their response to what was clearly a statement of transparency on the part of Judge Rhadamanthus. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor



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