DUST Search - Buff minmitar scout!!!

DTOracle wrote:

Sir Dukey wrote:

DTOracle wrote:

Sir Dukey wrote:

DTOracle wrote:

My only suggestion is to stop putting HP mods on your fits, speed & Ewar are our strengths. Going Min scout is a 'all or nothing' proposition. You simply won't be able to take advantage of the suit until you have ALL related skills maxed out. That includes all core skills(shields, armor, electronics, etc..), Ewar skills(dampening, precision, etc..), Biotics(KinKats, etc..), don't forget Hacking, Nova Knives, Uplinks, Weapon of choice(should be a CR if suit resources are your problem), & what ever else suits your play style. But when you can dance right in the middle of a squad of "stupid" reds, falcon punching your way to victory Lol

It's all worth it.

i have 32 million skillpoints and I for fact can tell you that the minmitar scout was not meant of ewar.

Simply put, you can be amazing with a minmitar scout but you will always get r8ped by a good caldari or gallante scout. Also, running around with 200 ehp is the stupidest idea especailly when you are running a 150k isk suit.

Don't knock it until you try it. KinKats & Cmp Extenders(the only ones worth a damn) do not mix well on a min scout, there's no way around it. & sure the Gal & Cal are better in their respective Ewar Bonuses, but the Minja can have better precision than the Gal with nearly the same range of a Cal. Combined with speed & stealth, this can be a very dangerous suit. Yes the Gal & Cal scouts make better slayers. But the Min scout is the proverbial fly in the soup. Stealth, Flank, Hack, repeat. Besides, can you show me a valid melee fit with any other scout?

BTW, I play for fun, suit cost is irrelevant.

Are you new to this game? 10 bucks that I can woop ur but any day in my caldari STD scout while you use proto minmitar.

My 42 Million skill points say no. But your the one complaining not me Lol

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DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 324	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:02:00 - [31] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: My only suggestion is to stop putting HP mods on your fits, speed & Ewar are our strengths. Going Min scout is a 'all or nothing' proposition. You simply won't be able to take advantage of the suit until you have ALL related skills maxed out. That includes all core skills(shields, armor, electronics, etc..), Ewar skills(dampening, precision, etc..), Biotics(KinKats, etc..), don't forget Hacking, Nova Knives, Uplinks, Weapon of choice(should be a CR if suit resources are your problem), & what ever else suits your play style. But when you can dance right in the middle of a squad of "stupid" reds, falcon punching your way to victory It's all worth it. i have 32 million skillpoints and I for fact can tell you that the minmitar scout was not meant of ewar. Simply put, you can be amazing with a minmitar scout but you will always get r8ped by a good caldari or gallante scout. Also, running around with 200 ehp is the stupidest idea especailly when you are running a 150k isk suit. Don't knock it until you try it. KinKats & Cmp Extenders(the only ones worth a damn) do not mix well on a min scout, there's no way around it. & sure the Gal & Cal are better in their respective Ewar Bonuses, but the Minja can have better precision than the Gal with nearly the same range of a Cal. Combined with speed & stealth, this can be a very dangerous suit. Yes the Gal & Cal scouts make better slayers. But the Min scout is the proverbial fly in the soup. Stealth, Flank, Hack, repeat. Besides, can you show me a valid melee fit with any other scout? BTW, I play for fun, suit cost is irrelevant. Are you new to this game? 10 bucks that I can woop ur but any day in my caldari STD scout while you use proto minmitar. My 42 Million skill points say no. But your the one complaining not me
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 24	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:09:00 - [32] - Quote Where is Mr. Mustard? I bet he'd have a few words to say, that is one guy that can rock a Minmatar scout and insta kill ANY suit with his knives. He can work with what he's given, and is one of the best(well, really THE BEST) with nova knives as a Minmatar scout. And this was before cloak came out too.
The Infected One The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 1341	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:10:00 - [33] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: My only suggestion is to stop putting HP mods on your fits, speed & Ewar are our strengths. Going Min scout is a 'all or nothing' proposition. You simply won't be able to take advantage of the suit until you have ALL related skills maxed out. That includes all core skills(shields, armor, electronics, etc..), Ewar skills(dampening, precision, etc..), Biotics(KinKats, etc..), don't forget Hacking, Nova Knives, Uplinks, Weapon of choice(should be a CR if suit resources are your problem), & what ever else suits your play style. But when you can dance right in the middle of a squad of "stupid" reds, falcon punching your way to victory It's all worth it. i have 32 million skillpoints and I for fact can tell you that the minmitar scout was not meant of ewar. Simply put, you can be amazing with a minmitar scout but you will always get r8ped by a good caldari or gallante scout. Also, running around with 200 ehp is the stupidest idea especailly when you are running a 150k isk suit. Don't knock it until you try it. KinKats & Cmp Extenders(the only ones worth a damn) do not mix well on a min scout, there's no way around it. & sure the Gal & Cal are better in their respective Ewar Bonuses, but the Minja can have better precision than the Gal with nearly the same range of a Cal. Combined with speed & stealth, this can be a very dangerous suit. Yes the Gal & Cal scouts make better slayers. But the Min scout is the proverbial fly in the soup. Stealth, Flank, Hack, repeat. Besides, can you show me a valid melee fit with any other scout? BTW, I play for fun, suit cost is irrelevant. Are you new to this game? 10 bucks that I can woop ur but any day in my caldari STD scout while you use proto minmitar. That's because you are using a "Scout hunter" suit to hunt a scout. The min scout isn't for taking out other scouts. It's for ninja hacking objectives, and flanking around heavies and knifing them in the back. So that the rest of your squad can rush in and sweep through with less resistance. Cal scouts can pose a problem, but with my min scout with knives, and a scrambler pistol, I drop cal scouts just as fast as I drop heavies with knives. The only thing that the cal scout has on me is the passive scans, but that only helps them in their attempt to get the drop on me. I have the speed to get around them 80% of the time, and when said cal scout isn't cloaked (after the hot fix it won't matter either way) I can pick them up on my passive scans and kill them just as well as they can kill me. I've gone 30+ kills with <5 deaths just running knives. They could buff the min scouts base hacking speed, and give it a different bonus in addition to knives, the PG would be nice to have an extra 10 or so, but it's not a useless suit. It's just more niche role than the cal or gal scout, and it's not a light assault like the Amarr "scout". I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? --. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 962	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:18:00 - [34] - Quote DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: My only suggestion is to stop putting HP mods on your fits, speed & Ewar are our strengths. Going Min scout is a 'all or nothing' proposition. You simply won't be able to take advantage of the suit until you have ALL related skills maxed out. That includes all core skills(shields, armor, electronics, etc..), Ewar skills(dampening, precision, etc..), Biotics(KinKats, etc..), don't forget Hacking, Nova Knives, Uplinks, Weapon of choice(should be a CR if suit resources are your problem), & what ever else suits your play style. But when you can dance right in the middle of a squad of "stupid" reds, falcon punching your way to victory It's all worth it. i have 32 million skillpoints and I for fact can tell you that the minmitar scout was not meant of ewar. Simply put, you can be amazing with a minmitar scout but you will always get r8ped by a good caldari or gallante scout. Also, running around with 200 ehp is the stupidest idea especailly when you are running a 150k isk suit. Don't knock it until you try it. KinKats & Cmp Extenders(the only ones worth a damn) do not mix well on a min scout, there's no way around it. & sure the Gal & Cal are better in their respective Ewar Bonuses, but the Minja can have better precision than the Gal with nearly the same range of a Cal. Combined with speed & stealth, this can be a very dangerous suit. Yes the Gal & Cal scouts make better slayers. But the Min scout is the proverbial fly in the soup. Stealth, Flank, Hack, repeat. Besides, can you show me a valid melee fit with any other scout? BTW, I play for fun, suit cost is irrelevant. Are you new to this game? 10 bucks that I can woop ur but any day in my caldari STD scout while you use proto minmitar. My 42 Million skill points say no. But your the one complaining not me I can also sit here and say i have 45 million sp sir.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 962	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:21:00 - [35] - Quote DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: My only suggestion is to stop putting HP mods on your fits, speed & Ewar are our strengths. Going Min scout is a 'all or nothing' proposition. You simply won't be able to take advantage of the suit until you have ALL related skills maxed out. That includes all core skills(shields, armor, electronics, etc..), Ewar skills(dampening, precision, etc..), Biotics(KinKats, etc..), don't forget Hacking, Nova Knives, Uplinks, Weapon of choice(should be a CR if suit resources are your problem), & what ever else suits your play style. But when you can dance right in the middle of a squad of "stupid" reds, falcon punching your way to victory It's all worth it. i have 32 million skillpoints and I for fact can tell you that the minmitar scout was not meant of ewar. Simply put, you can be amazing with a minmitar scout but you will always get r8ped by a good caldari or gallante scout. Also, running around with 200 ehp is the stupidest idea especailly when you are running a 150k isk suit. Don't knock it until you try it. KinKats & Cmp Extenders(the only ones worth a damn) do not mix well on a min scout, there's no way around it. & sure the Gal & Cal are better in their respective Ewar Bonuses, but the Minja can have better precision than the Gal with nearly the same range of a Cal. Combined with speed & stealth, this can be a very dangerous suit. Yes the Gal & Cal scouts make better slayers. But the Min scout is the proverbial fly in the soup. Stealth, Flank, Hack, repeat. Besides, can you show me a valid melee fit with any other scout? BTW, I play for fun, suit cost is irrelevant. Are you new to this game? 10 bucks that I can woop ur but any day in my caldari STD scout while you use proto minmitar. My 42 Million skill points say no. But your the one complaining not me you were created on November 10th 2013, no way you have 42 million sp unless you play for 10 hours a day with boosters on.
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 324	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:30:00 - [36] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: I can also sit here and say i have 45 million sp sir. You sure could, but you said 32 SP & I believe you because I have no reason not to. & don't really care 1 way or the other. & who cares, don't take my advice. But your the one who posted in the forums. Feedback is only natural, don't you think?
MINA Longstrike 807	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:33:00 - [37] - Quote I don't see how the min scout is the 'worst' of all the scouts, It might have some issues with powergrid at bsc and adv tiers but I quite honestly find it to be a perfectly fine suit. My min scout MK.0 uses Highs 3x complex shield extenders (Hp, plain and simple. Damage mods aren't worth it nor are other items really) Lows 1x basic reactive plate (it provides just a little bit of extra HP, and it reps up what little bit of armor I have. I cannot justify a plate or a repper here) 2x complex dampeners (makes you invisible to most things unless it's a gallogi with proto focused scans, or a cal scout with 3-4x precision amps) Equip 1x Adv Cloak (utility) 1x Remotes or nanite injector or proto flux repair tool (dependis on what I need and what my squad is running with, remotes are the general utility choice, I cannot stand people who fling them like Frisbees though) Weapons 1x Adv assault combat rifle (decent damage, low fitting requirements) 1x Proto Nova knives (wonderful damage) 1x Std grenades (I could fit advanced if I really wanted to) It hacks fast, it has a decent amount of HP, it kills fast at range with the assault combat rifle and if I can't kill them with that I'm stealthy enough to flank around and stab them for a ton of damage with knives, if I run into tanks I can cloak up and remote them without them knowing unless they have squadmates looking right at me. In general the minmatar scout just does everything fast. If you want to run a shotgun toss a SMG on as a sidearm. While it might be underpowered for situations like PC, I really enjoy the Min scout and its current niche of 'does everything FAST'. I believe it's been discussed that they're probably going to jump the base hacking speed of 1.10 (before the suits hacking speed bonus) up to 1.25, which with the hacking skill at level 5 would let you flip points in 3-4 seconds? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 324	Posted - 2014.05.31 03:34:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: you were created on November 10th 2013, no way you have 42 million sp unless you play for 10 hours a day with boosters on. I'm a closed beta vet, & I don't need to prove anything to you. I have 42 million SP, & there are many who have much more. I have been playing Dust514 for 2 years. BTW, the date your refering to is when I joined my current Corp. But I'm sure we have all realize, just how much you know.
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5050	Posted - 2014.05.31 04:30:00 - [39] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: DTOracle wrote: My 42 Million skill points say no. But your the one complaining not me I can also sit here and say i have 45 million sp sir. SP is Irrelevant past around 25 Mil. By then you should have your main fit fully specced. Also, DTOracle is a LONG time scout. Here is the proof. Also, don't be so averse to different playstyles. He's right, Kincats and Shield Extenders do NOT mix well on the Min Scout. With 81 PG, we can't run them. Come next build, we will HAVE to run a Proto Cloak to dodge scans. With that, this is the best min-maxed suit a Min Scout can run if he wants HP and Speed. You can't even Run the 3rd shield due to PG constraints, so I went with a damage mod instead. Note that this suit MAXES PG. This means you are REQUIRED to have fitting optimization V on the Combat rifle for this fit to work. I do run a fit similar to this for PC right now, but this fit doesn't work for everyone. With around 360 total HP, you HAVE to have gun game to make this work. It allows for no mistakes. He is simply trying to find other ways to make the scout work for him. No need to be an ass and try to show him up with your Uber L33T basic scout skills. Calm down. Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
Grimmiers 571	Posted - 2014.05.31 04:50:00 - [40] - Quote A cloaked min scout rek'd me with melee damage mods recently. Damn thing 2 shotted me and I never had enough time to turn around and there was also a nova knifer running around. If anything is going to be buffed it might be the hack speed which is probably the suits most useful feature. When I set up the minmatar scout I like to use 2 sidearms to save cpu/pgu which works well on a scout. Also if you go for high alpha weapons and utilize your speed you won't need high ehp to survive.

Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 101	Posted - 2014.05.31 04:58:00 - [41] - Quote Min Scout isn't that bad, it just isn't as good as gal/cal scout or heavies. Nova knife damage bonus is worthless and should be changed to something else. Auto aim should be tuned down.
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1044	Posted - 2014.05.31 05:21:00 - [42] - Quote you dont always need a cloak with a scout... have you already forgotten when pyrex use to use the min scout In Rust We Trust Vherokior Warrior My Honor is for the Republic
Vitharr Foebane Heaven's Lost Property 1259	Posted - 2014.05.31 05:26:00 - [43] - Quote Demon Buddah wrote: It's not imposssible to use the Minmitar scout, I do it all the time. The Minmitar scout is definitely the worst of all the scouts. You can't fit everything like you can a Caldari or a Gallente scout. Minmitar buff please :3 Have you seen the Amarr "scout" Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
The Infected One The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 1341	Posted - 2014.05.31 06:12:00 - [44] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: Min Scout isn't that bad, it just isn't as good as gal/cal scout or heavies. Nova knife damage bonus is worthless and should be changed to something else. Auto aim should be tuned down. Perhaps you are just horrible with knives. With knives prof V and min scout V I can 1 shot a tanked gal sentinel suit with a full charge, if its FULLY tanked, its 1 full charge shot and a quick melee since its faster than a 2nd strike with knives. How is that useless? Cutting through groups of heavies from behind when they are too busy focusing on the rest of my team coming through the front door. You cannot do that on any other scout suit. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? --. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
OZAROW Heaven's Lost Property 1419	Posted - 2014.05.31 09:39:00 - [45] - Quote I've wrote around a 100 posts on this since uprising and even been banned twice for trying, the suits brutally bad I have the other 3 at proto and only went adv min scout for hacking in pc with Lp store protos. SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 968	Posted - 2014.05.31 13:40:00 - [46] - Quote DTOracle wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: you were created on November 10th 2013, no way you have 42 million sp unless you play for 10 hours a day with boosters on. I'm a closed beta vet, & I don't need to prove anything to you. I have 42 million SP, & there are many who have much more. I have been playing Dust514 for 2 years. BTW, the date your refering to is when I joined my current Corp. But I'm sure we have all realize, just how much you know. my mistake, Eko sol was made then.
poison Diego Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 395	Posted - 2014.05.31 13:50:00 - [47] - Quote The suits need more CPU and PG. no offence to you guys who hate tanked scouts but you should be able to fit 3 cpx shield, dampners, hack module and proto weapon on a proto scout scout if you have pg and cpu maxed but u cant with the minmatar scout. it has WAY to low cpu and pg. Nothing else I would ask, the minmatar bonus is ****** enough that the fitting poops on us to.
poison Diego Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 395	Posted - 2014.05.31 13:53:00 - [48] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: Min Scout isn't that bad, it just isn't as good as gal/cal scout or heavies. Nova knife damage bonus is worthless and should be changed to something else. Auto aim should be tuned down. Sit the flap down, the nova damage is the only thing that makes the suit worth it!!
poison Diego Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 395	Posted - 2014.05.31 13:57:00 - [49] - Quote The hacking bonus is worthless when the gallente scout can hack at the same speed and still have dampening, its bullcrap, still all you guys think that the minmatar scout is the best speed hacker in PC. The truth is that u can allways find a better gallente speed hacker.
Sir Dukey SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 969	Posted - 2014.05.31 15:55:00 - [50] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: you dont always need a cloak with a scout... have you already forgotten when pyrex use to use the min scout there was less aim assist then and you didn't slow down when you were getting shot by bullets.

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4782	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:37:00 - [51] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: I don't know how to buff it but buff it some how... This game is literally unplayable in a minmitar scout, with low HP and deprived CPU and PG, I can't freking fit anything on it.. I have level 4 in minmitar scout and when I put a ADV cloak, I have to fit an enhanced CPU and a enhanced PG to fit it. Also, nova knives are trash except for proto. Did I forget to mention the fact that Kin Cats so much PG? Also, it's annyoing getting murderd like amarr scout because amarr and minmitar have no ewar capabilities. Get good. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Jaceon Pale-eye DUST University Ivy League 56	Posted - 2014.05.31 18:31:00 - [52] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: The scout suit I use the most though is Scout M-I High Slot: 2x Basic Shield Extender Light Weapon: Combat Rifle Sidearm: ZN-28 Nova Knives Grenade: flux grenade Equipment: Remote Explosives, Cloak Field Low Slots: 2x Complex Profile Dampeners Shield extender? What is this, I don't even To be fair, that's because when I logged in to find 4.9M unallocated SP after several months of having forgotten about this game when I first made the character, I saw Electronics and ran it up to 5.... but it was 3am and I did not see the Engineering skill right below it. So I have Engineering at 2... Min Scout 3. I'm finding that I make a new scout fit at least every two or three days, for different situations. For instance, my shotgun fit has two shield extenders and a Enh damage mod (adv shotgun, std magsec, ADV cloak, flux, std REs, Enh damp and I think a PG mod. My bread and butter fits are: Sidearm damage mod 2x Precision Enhancer Either 2x Damp or Damp + Range Amp Adv CR ZN's Flux Adv Cloak Stable Uplink And Same highs Same lows ZN's Std Magsec Locus Adv Cloak Std REs I'll go with the first suit to the enemy home point (in pubs or FW), put a discreet link somewhere nearby in the wasteland, with their CRU in between if possible (so when I die, I can re-hack the CRU on my way back to the point). After I die, I'll come back with the RE fit. Nobody uses my random-looking uplink all the way over there, so it usually lasts the whole match. Hack point, place remotes, kill whoever comes to take it back if they come by ones or twos. If they come stronger than that, I fade back and keep an eye on things or just go hack another point, then get myself killed and return through my own uplink later (taking the CRU on the way by). After I get another hack off, the heat's usually died down at their home point and it becomes mine again. Then rehack the point, place remotes. It's funny how rare it is for people to flux. I've noticed that REs places against light textures tend to get shot, ones placed on darker textures are entirely missed. When I do well, I've gotten 1300+ WP from just hacks and 4 or 5 kills with the knives, without anyone using my links to give me free WP, even if my KDR is somewhat negative at the end of it. when I do poorly... I had 125 WP one match -- hacking my home point, a team spawn, and a K/D of 0/13. With the exception of my CRG Shotgun fit, which I haven't used in a couple of weeks, I don't have any HP mods on my suits. Because of PG. I feel I get more bang for the buck out of 2x precision enhancer rather than 1 Basic shield extender and 1 PE... 22 hit points isn't gonna save me from that HMG or that shotgun or that CR or that anything else... so I finally said '**** it. I just have to be sneakier.' Winmatar.
Jaceon Pale-eye DUST University Ivy League 56	Posted - 2014.05.31 18:35:00 - [53] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: Min Scout isn't that bad, it just isn't as good as gal/cal scout or heavies. Nova knife damage bonus is worthless and should be changed to something else. Auto aim should be tuned down. If they take my NK damage bonus, I'll hunt you down and kill you to death and penetrate your eye holes with my *****, m8. (in game)
OZAROW Heaven's Lost Property 1419	Posted - 2014.05.31 19:18:00 - [54] - Quote poison Diego wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: Min Scout isn't that bad, it just isn't as good as gal/cal scout or heavies. Nova knife damage bonus is worthless and should be changed to something else. Auto aim should be tuned down. Sit the flap down, the nova damage is the only thing that makes the suit worth it!! And with everyone running scout shotgun, NK is a bit more risky to use, I don't know how many times they turned last seconed only to have a sg and get that lucky kill before I stab them in the face. SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5061	Posted - 2014.05.31 21:45:00 - [55] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: you dont always need a cloak with a scout... have you already forgotten when pyrex use to use the min scout Your point? Pyrex is not a good player. I don't know why the forums treat him as some sort of god. Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 458	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:00:00 - [56] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: Where is Mr. Mustard? I bet he'd have a few words to say, that is one guy that can rock a Minmatar scout and insta kill ANY suit with his knives. He can work with what he's given, and is one of the best(well, really THE BEST) with nova knives as a Minmatar scout. And this was before cloak came out too. Suit needs more PG every fit I have a PG upgrade and still don't fill all the slots


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