Our new tanker overlords say no. AV is fine, you are just bad at Dust.

You need moar teamwork and preferably to git gud and/or HTFU as well.

As long as there are no proto tanks....
BTW, i'm not having so many problems if we are 2 AVers.

I think this is correct. The clowns that make the decisions don't play with the masses, so it will never be fixed. As soon as three tanks are on the ground I'm in the hills sniping. I won't pad a tankers stats.

Good, I could use a few easy kills in my rail tank. Stationary tunnel-vision targets are the best.

I personally believe the acceleration bonus from the nitrous mod, especially to armor tanks, is either bugged or broken. They literally go to 125% speed instantly from a stop then can do the same in the other direction. Granted their turn speed is terrible, but that's a small price to pay.

It still boggles my mind why CCP though an armor tank should be faster than a shield tank in any case.

PLC'ed an A-102 Maddy yesterday... not sure if to be stupefied or amazed.

I think this is correct. The clowns that make the decisions don't play with the masses, so it will never be fixed. As soon as three tanks are on the ground I'm in the hills sniping. I won't pad a tankers stats.

Our new tanker overlords say no. AV is fine, you are just bad at Dust.

You need moar teamwork and preferably to git gud and/or HTFU as well.

Was in a match yesterday....

Many many enemy tanks in this Domination match we joined. I was in a squad with my corp so many of us pulled out AV of all types.

Suffice to say we killed a few tanks (What must have been militia or badly fit), yet some remained. Specifically sniper gunlogis and uber tanked Madrugars, speeding everywhere.

I pulled out an officer forge - (You know because I thought the reward would be worth the risk... HA) and one of my squad mates next to me pulled out his proto swarms.

All 6 of my Gastuns rounds hit the Madrugar, and at least 2 volleys of the proto swarms also hit during the engagement. The tank casually speed boosted away with a small amount of HP left. When he came back, about 30 seconds later.... fully healed, fully ready to **** on us all again.

My question is - Is it right that a STD level tank doesn't even have to be too afraid of a proto swarmer and OFFICER LEVEL FORGES?

The answer has got to be no...... You pull out any other officer weapon and its power is felt by the enemy straight away. Thales, Balac's etc....

I ended up using the proto breach forge as it seemed that while it did less DPS, the increased volley damage was way more effective than the Gastuns forge.

On a side note I also see that nothing is being done to the speed / acceleration of tanks.... the acceleration needs to be lower for sure.

PLC'ed an A-102 Maddy to death yesterday... not sure if to be stupefied or amazed.

As for tanking an officer forge gun

A single shot yes be 'tankable'; but a whole magazine dump should get it close to dead or fearing for its life. Well the first shot as well but these new tank pilots have no sense of paranoia.

Was in a match yesterday....

Many many enemy tanks in this Domination match we joined. I was in a squad with my corp so many of us pulled out AV of all types.

Suffice to say we killed a few tanks (What must have been militia or badly fit), yet some remained. Specifically sniper gunlogis and uber tanked Madrugars, speeding everywhere.

I pulled out an officer forge - (You know because I thought the reward would be worth the risk... HA) and one of my squad mates next to me pulled out his proto swarms.

All 6 of my Gastuns rounds hit the Madrugar, and at least 2 volleys of the proto swarms also hit during the engagement. The tank casually speed boosted away with a small amount of HP left. When he came back, about 30 seconds later.... fully healed, fully ready to **** on us all again.

My question is - Is it right that a STD level tank doesn't even have to be too afraid of a proto swarmer and OFFICER LEVEL FORGES?

The answer has got to be no...... You pull out any other officer weapon and its power is felt by the enemy straight away. Thales, Balac's etc....

I ended up using the proto breach forge as it seemed that while it did less DPS, the increased volley damage was way more effective than the Gastuns forge.

On a side note I also see that nothing is being done to the speed / acceleration of tanks.... the acceleration needs to be lower for sure.

30 seconds, try 5 seconds and he should be good.

My question here though, how much of an impact did those tanks still standing, make on the field with AV hounding them? In all honesty, while you may complain about being unable to kill said tanks, I know from personal experience (IE last night) that heavy AV WILL neutralize a tanks effectiveness.

And it really doesn't take all that much to do it, a couple of forge guns with swarms mixed in makes it very difficult to engage and remain engaged for any tank. I'm at a loss, honestly at what your complaint is. That the tank didn't die simply because you expect it to by using officer gear.

Sorry fella, but that "standard" tank doesn't define the tank. It's what you put on it that makes it std, adv, or proto.

Nuff said.

There's been a lot of lag lately idk if that was the problem but idk any tank that can tank an officer forge and proto swarms.. Unless you're missing and only getting splash damage?

I suppose that is a possibility however as far as I could tell, my forge shots were striking the side of the tank for full damage and I am 99% sure the swarms were all hitting as well.

I know that the forges have had some issues recently but I dont ~think~ this was one of those times.

This is what happens with tiericide

How is 30 seconds, or even 5 seconds as you aptly put it, neutralising a tank? No the tank continued to drive around and gun down blues left and right.

I will admit he obviously had a nice fit and he did somewhat try to avoid our fire, but he did nothing at all special. While at this same time, for me to even begin to damage the tank I had to dodge 5 other tanks, 3 up close gunning everyone down with blasters and 2 sniper tanks, while on top of that fighting through enemy infantry with only a sidearm / odd forge snipe.

My point is that currently tanks are too easily recovered after heavy engagements. Granted I am fine with not being able to kill every tank I see, even If I do have damage mods and officer forges out. However that fact that he is bearly slowed down, or just has to hide for 10 seconds behind cover to be back to full fighting strength is just absurd.

We all know it, the buff to passive armour reps was just too much. Any shield tank that dares stray into range does not have that same benefit as if he survived in a gunloggis say, its a lot longer before he returns.

So to recap, if the enemy has 6 good tankers, or even just a few good tanks with scrub tank support, it takes a lot more infantry on our side to deal with both the enemy tanks that slaughter any NON AV AND we still have to deal with the enemy infantry somehow.

I have been a tanker a long time and I too am guilty of running crazy rep tanks in the past but enough is enough. We need actual balance and good engaging gameplay. Not blaster turrets that hit hard at 120-200 meters out on tanks that go as fast as an LAV with the ability to recover full health in seconds.

I suppose that is a possibility however as far as I could tell, my forge shots were striking the side of the tank for full damage and I am 99% sure the swarms were all hitting as well.

I know that the forges have had some issues recently but I dont ~think~ this was one of those times.

Our new tanker overlords say no. AV is fine, you are just bad at Dust.

You need moar teamwork and preferably to git gud and/or HTFU as well.

PLC'ed an A-102 Maddy to death yesterday... not sure if to be stupefied or amazed.

As for tanking an officer forge gun

A single shot yes be 'tankable'; but a whole magazine dump should get it close to dead or fearing for its life. Well the first shot as well but these new tank pilots have no sense of paranoia.

Pfft lol, one time myself and two proto forgers with 4-5 level proficiency in forge guns with Ishikone Assault and Gastun's forge guns couldn't even scare off a Madrugar because his passive armor regen and active armor regen were repairing faster than our damage output... Three excellent forge gunners couldn't even scare off a Madrugar... Until he ran out of his active armor regen obviously, but still that is a load of ****...

I dunno if it was our forge guns glitching, the tank glitching or if the guy found out how to overstack on repair mods, but three forgers hitting with every shot on a single tank and we couldn't get him to back off until his repair mods ran out of charge to stack with his heavy repair...