DUST Search - One proto, then milita the rest of the round?

ZDub 303 wrote:

Spamming proto 24/7 does require that you have a buffer for the bad days. It was really easy to afford proto when you went to Uprising with 300-400 million from Chromosome.

Chromosome salvage refund probably ruined any chance at this game had at succeeding on the PS3 tbqh...

I went from 46 million ISK to 312 million isk iirc. My buddy when from 70 mil to 446 mil.

With that kind of money its not hard to maintain prototype gear indefinitely. Always run pubs with a full squad of good players and your average deaths generally stay pretty low. Especially if you have a logi willing to run a needle.

Then PC used to pay out huge (actively) in 1.2-1.4) made another 300-400 million doing that, recieving absolutely nothing in terms of paychecks. I eventually had to use a transfer service and moving ~60% of my isk to EVE side before money started to matter. Even then I was left with 175 million or so (where im at currently) all without receiving much at all in terms of passive paychecks.

I don't think that would have been possible though without that chromosome salvage refund... absolutely insane. You used to recieve marauder tanks as salvage back then, fairly often i might add. They gave us like 1.2 million isk each for those iirc. I had like 120 of them when Uprising patched lol.

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HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 118	Posted - 2014.05.29 22:45:00 - [1] - Quote I don't understand this mentality. You aren't supposed to be able to run proto all the time ( only top 10% and paid corpmembers, probly the same guys, can ). One of my fits cost 250k ... never use it except to troll 1-2 a week ( usually while being stomped by officer gear in pubs ) basic is way better than milita and costs about the same while giving you a much better setup. Payout is higher. I run adv gear almost exclusively unless I'm going against a vehicle team then I bust out my proto forge/swarm to scare them off them back to adv gear. While giving away millions I've still saved a couple hundred million. But if I went proto nonstop I would burn though it in a couple months I bet. Lonewolf till I die
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4011	Posted - 2014.05.29 22:50:00 - [2] - Quote I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... Do you even Plasma Cannon Bro?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10355	Posted - 2014.05.29 22:54:00 - [3] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... With X Billion ISK how could you not? "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 118	Posted - 2014.05.29 22:56:00 - [4] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... Can't be done at a profit. 2-3 deaths and you go neg isk wise, unsustainable. Blah blah blah your a god right? Play solo in adv gear for a week and tell me your stats improve. Lonewolf till I die
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10355	Posted - 2014.05.29 22:58:00 - [5] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... Can't be done at a profit. 2-3 deaths and you go neg isk wise, unsustainable. Blah blah blah your a god right? Play solo in adv gear for a week and tell me your stats improve. No he's just very good with his assets. Viktor certainly isn't God. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 118	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:00:00 - [6] - Quote Maybe if corps actually had to fight instead of paying not to be attacked, or paying someone to fight for them.... B!tch moves on each. Lonewolf till I die
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4011	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:01:00 - [7] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Maybe if corps actually had to fight instead of paying not to be attacked, or paying someone to fight for them.... B!tch moves on each. PC is for chumps Do you even Plasma Cannon Bro?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4011	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:02:00 - [8] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... Can't be done at a profit. 2-3 deaths and you go neg isk wise, unsustainable. Blah blah blah your a god right? Play solo in adv gear for a week and tell me your stats improve. Who cares about ISK, Who cares about stats. It's just a game.... Do you even Plasma Cannon Bro?
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 687	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:02:00 - [9] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... This. I run proto exclusively. The matches I die 3-5 times are made up for in the matches I don't die at all. Being able to run proto 24/7 is more reliant on your abilities in this game than the amount of ISK you have. I started running proto only at the 50m ISK mark. I now have a few hundred million. Saying you can't run proto 24/7 is basically admitting the fact that you really aren't all that good at this game.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 698	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:02:00 - [10] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: PC is for chumps So... you're a chump? "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.

Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 698	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:05:00 - [11] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... This. I run proto exclusively. The matches I die 3-5 times are made up for in the matches I don't die at all. Being able to run proto 24/7 is more reliant on your abilities in this game than the amount of ISK you have. I started running proto only at the 50m ISK mark. I now have a few hundred million. Saying you can't run proto 24/7 is basically admitting the fact that you really aren't all that good at this game. Yeah... no. You're BS if you say you run proto 24/7 and you have made over 50 mil. Unless you're redline sniper scum. 230k a suit, and you die... 5 times a match. C'mon bro, do the math. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 118	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:16:00 - [12] - Quote Unless your a sniper....here's a tip nobody likes snipers, but snipers. Ohk on a logi that isn't tanked. Never heard someone get killed by a sniper and say "man that guy was good". More like looking at the distance and saying "redline f@g" Lonewolf till I die
Michael Arck 4565	Posted - 2014.05.29 23:48:00 - [13] - Quote Your thread topics along with your name, always cracks me up. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1936	Posted - 2014.05.30 00:02:00 - [14] - Quote I love the mentality that people will have to show they "have more skill than you" "I don't use Prototype gear. I feel that people that use it are using a crutch. I use no such thing." "I run exclusively Prototype gear. I can do so because I do not die. It is a matter of my skill that I can do so." Me, I like my Tank so I use it. Have used it since about 1.2. Same with my Basic Raven suit. 2 Complex Shield Extenders, 2 Basic Plates, Basic (sometimes Advanced Assault) Rail Rifle, Compact Nanohive to heal myself. I have never actually gotten to a Prototype suit. I just never cared for it. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7617	Posted - 2014.05.30 00:13:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Viktor certainly isn't God. I am. New [self proclaimed] CEO of Fatal Absolution 31+ mil SP Scout/Heavy/Logi/ADS pilot for hire (free) in PC
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 118	Posted - 2014.05.30 00:54:00 - [16] - Quote Got yelled at for being invisible today ...mbasic caldari,basic cloak no damp. I'm a scrub. Lonewolf till I die
End Is Here Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.05.30 01:50:00 - [17] - Quote The farmers ruined dust............. BILLIONS in dirty money all over dust. All bills are marked! Can't wait for the audit........QQ
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1312	Posted - 2014.05.30 04:26:00 - [18] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... This. I run proto exclusively. The matches I die 3-5 times are made up for in the matches I don't die at all. Being able to run proto 24/7 is more reliant on your abilities in this game than the amount of ISK you have. I started running proto only at the 50m ISK mark. I now have a few hundred million. Saying you can't run proto 24/7 is basically admitting the fact that you really aren't all that good at this game. I'm decent on the ground. I expect to die a few times for the team. My role is basically that of a grunt, decent with a rail rifle and tactics. I can't run proto 24/7 because I'm a pilot, and that costs. My dropship has proto mods and guns tho, because I need every second of advantage that I can get. Even if your a good pilot its still costly. So many things can go wrong and end in your death. If your only paying for milita mods the cassis is still over 400k so your out a couple games. I have to run on the ground a lot to fly. I don't have amazing skills in my ground game but I have enough to get by and some cheap suits. Can't really afford to run proto on a pilots salary
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 75	Posted - 2014.05.30 14:57:00 - [19] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: m twiggz wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... This. I run proto exclusively. The matches I die 3-5 times are made up for in the matches I don't die at all. Being able to run proto 24/7 is more reliant on your abilities in this game than the amount of ISK you have. I started running proto only at the 50m ISK mark. I now have a few hundred million. Saying you can't run proto 24/7 is basically admitting the fact that you really aren't all that good at this game. I'm decent on the ground. I expect to die a few times for the team. My role is basically that of a grunt, decent with a rail rifle and tactics. I can't run proto 24/7 because I'm a pilot, and that costs. My dropship has proto mods and guns tho, because I need every second of advantage that I can get. Even if your a good pilot its still costly. So many things can go wrong and end in your death. If your only paying for milita mods the cassis is still over 400k so your out a couple games. I have to run on the ground a lot to fly. I don't have amazing skills in my ground game but I have enough to get by and some cheap suits. Can't really afford to run proto on a pilots salary The fact is not everyone who says they are running proto 24/7 has everything proto. Likewise, even if you are running it 24/7 and loosing more than you make it's still sometime before you loose it all. Math even withstanding I've been at a loss on a weekly basis but still having 40million isk. Loosing roughly 200k a match means I'll eventually run out but it's also realistically saying I might outlast CCP and Dust before I run out of it so there's another incentive to burning it all.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3452	Posted - 2014.05.30 14:58:00 - [20] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... You must not have enough isk then. Eve Legion FTW!

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 8949	Posted - 2014.05.30 14:59:00 - [21] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Maybe if corps actually had to fight instead of paying not to be attacked, or paying someone to fight for them.... B!tch moves on each. You must not be keeping up with current events. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3452	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:02:00 - [22] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: I love the mentality that people will have to show they "have more skill than you" "I don't use Prototype gear. I feel that people that use it are using a crutch. I use no such thing." "I run exclusively Prototype gear. I can do so because I do not die. It is a matter of my skill that I can do so." Me, I like my Tank so I use it. Have used it since about 1.2. Same with my Basic Raven suit. 2 Complex Shield Extenders, 2 Basic Plates, Basic (sometimes Advanced Assault) Rail Rifle, Compact Nanohive to heal myself. I have never actually gotten to a Prototype suit. I just never cared for it. People run it because it makes things easier, not everyone can be bothered to be an militia try hard hero lol. I run a proto logi with proto equipment and a toxin ar (std ar). Eve Legion FTW!
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3452	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:04:00 - [23] - Quote m twiggz wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: I don't understand the mentality of not running proto 24/7..... This. I run proto exclusively. The matches I die 3-5 times are made up for in the matches I don't die at all. Being able to run proto 24/7 is more reliant on your abilities in this game than the amount of ISK you have. I started running proto only at the 50m ISK mark. I now have a few hundred million. Saying you can't run proto 24/7 is basically admitting the fact that you really aren't all that good at this game. Agreed. In the long run I make profit spamming proto. Eve Legion FTW!
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2989	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:11:00 - [24] - Quote Spamming proto 24/7 does require that you have a buffer for the bad days. It was really easy to afford proto when you went to Uprising with 300-400 million from Chromosome. Chromosome salvage refund probably ruined any chance at this game had at succeeding on the PS3 tbqh... I went from 46 million ISK to 312 million isk iirc. My buddy when from 70 mil to 446 mil. With that kind of money its not hard to maintain prototype gear indefinitely. Always run pubs with a full squad of good players and your average deaths generally stay pretty low. Especially if you have a logi willing to run a needle. Then PC used to pay out huge (actively) in 1.2-1.4) made another 300-400 million doing that, recieving absolutely nothing in terms of paychecks. I eventually had to use a transfer service and moving ~60% of my isk to EVE side before money started to matter. Even then I was left with 175 million or so (where im at currently) all without receiving much at all in terms of passive paychecks. I don't think that would have been possible though without that chromosome salvage refund... absolutely insane. You used to recieve marauder tanks as salvage back then, fairly often i might add. They gave us like 1.2 million isk each for those iirc. I had like 120 of them when Uprising patched lol.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 782	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:26:00 - [25] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Spamming proto 24/7 does require that you have a buffer for the bad days. It was really easy to afford proto when you went to Uprising with 300-400 million from Chromosome. Chromosome salvage refund probably ruined any chance at this game had at succeeding on the PS3 tbqh... I went from 46 million ISK to 312 million isk iirc. My buddy when from 70 mil to 446 mil. With that kind of money its not hard to maintain prototype gear indefinitely. Always run pubs with a full squad of good players and your average deaths generally stay pretty low. Especially if you have a logi willing to run a needle. Then PC used to pay out huge (actively) in 1.2-1.4) made another 300-400 million doing that, recieving absolutely nothing in terms of paychecks. I eventually had to use a transfer service and moving ~60% of my isk to EVE side before money started to matter. Even then I was left with 175 million or so (where im at currently) all without receiving much at all in terms of passive paychecks. I don't think that would have been possible though without that chromosome salvage refund... absolutely insane. You used to recieve marauder tanks as salvage back then, fairly often i might add. They gave us like 1.2 million isk each for those iirc. I had like 120 of them when Uprising patched lol. Well said. Basically guys - this game could have been a lot better but CCP just tend to do the strangest things....and that is putting it nicely.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 342	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:29:00 - [26] - Quote I run proto when I feel like it for the 4th equipment slot. The more roles I can fill at once, the beter for the team. Wish I could get a 5th equipment slot.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 433	Posted - 2014.05.30 17:54:00 - [27] - Quote I run proto all the time of course, hope to be able to run trough my suits before 9 september. way settle for less.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3456	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:08:00 - [28] - Quote What I hate are scrubbers who face me and crew in mlt but bring out their proto when they are with us vs newbs. If I could tk them in pubs then I would, I'd help the newbs bash them lol. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3456	Posted - 2014.05.30 20:21:00 - [29] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: I run proto when I feel like it for the 4th equipment slot. The more roles I can fill at once, the beter for the team. Wish I could get a 5th equipment slot. I'd trade my grenade slot for an equipment slot. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 143	Posted - 2014.05.31 00:01:00 - [30] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: What I hate are scrubbers who face me and crew in mlt but bring out their proto when they are with us vs newbs. If I could tk them in pubs then I would, I'd help the newbs bash them lol. Problem is, its teams of experienced proto vs. newbs destroying NPE. You can't tell who's good or " scrubs ". I'm consistently at the the top of the leaderboard with positive k/d, running mostly logi, (now not when I was a new, even got res camped 30+ times in a single round my first week, thanks troll ). when this game dies don't blame CCP, blame q-syncing, proto stomping corps. We need a mode where it's impossible, tho all the "good" players would just leave round when it's not fun for them. Lonewolf till I die

THUNDERGROOVE The Last of DusT. 883	Posted - 2014.05.31 04:39:00 - [31] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Maybe if corps actually had to fight instead of paying not to be attacked, or paying someone to fight for them.... B!tch moves on each. Attack us then. >Team quota reached Darnit I have to wait for one of the blueberry shit LAVs to get blown up:(
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3459	Posted - 2014.05.31 11:21:00 - [32] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: What I hate are scrubbers who face me and crew in mlt but bring out their proto when they are with us vs newbs. If I could tk them in pubs then I would, I'd help the newbs bash them lol. Problem is, its teams of experienced proto vs. newbs destroying NPE. You can't tell who's good or " scrubs ". I'm consistently at the the top of the leaderboard with positive k/d, running mostly logi, (now not when I was a new, even got res camped 30+ times in a single round my first week, thanks troll ). when this game dies don't blame CCP, blame q-syncing, proto stomping corps. We need a mode where it's impossible, tho all the "good" players would just leave round when it's not fun for them. I'm sorry but no. Its all on CCP. You can't honestly expect someone to spend a few months to get proto and stuff but never use it just for a bunch of randoms. And bad players are bad no matter what, if you really think proto is that amazing then you must be bad. You also stated that you got res camped 30+, really mate.............you allowed that 30 times. You are aware that in any game, allowing yourself to get res camped that many times is just awful, worst iv heard yet actually since 1996 besides stat padders lol. If you stop moving You die Dance with me


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