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Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 293	Posted - 2014.05.28 18:30:00 - [31] - Quote tla suoivbo wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: We use an alt corp with starter fit with 100% tax with a single 6 man team, you can harvest 150k times 6 very quick by suicide with a nade ! When two teams are syncing trust me it goes very fast ! jump out of the MCC, it's cheaper and better. Yeah but skirmish is longer, more clones and such. There is no MCC on ambushes, and when you do it for ISK its faster at 50 clones. 50 / 6 = 8 respawn kill approx per member, which is pretty fast trust me, I got a diploma in suicide in that game lol, and it also fucks up their tracking data :)
ERMAGERD IM DEAD Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.05.28 18:53:00 - [32] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: We use an alt corp with starter fit with 100% tax with a single 6 man team, you can harvest 150k times 6 very quick by suicide with a nade ! When two teams are syncing trust me it goes very fast ! I've done this. 6 or 7 people on alts using starter fits at 100% tax rate. We actually give it a go instead of suiciding, I'll have to try that!
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 293	Posted - 2014.05.28 19:11:00 - [33] - Quote ERMAGERD IM DEAD wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: We use an alt corp with starter fit with 100% tax with a single 6 man team, you can harvest 150k times 6 very quick by suicide with a nade ! When two teams are syncing trust me it goes very fast ! I've done this. 6 or 7 people on alts using starter fits at 100% tax rate. We actually give it a go instead of suiciding, I'll have to try that! Do it on asian servers, if they're still available, it pisses people less !
ERMAGERD IM DEAD Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.05.29 12:43:00 - [34] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: ERMAGERD IM DEAD wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: We use an alt corp with starter fit with 100% tax with a single 6 man team, you can harvest 150k times 6 very quick by suicide with a nade ! When two teams are syncing trust me it goes very fast ! I've done this. 6 or 7 people on alts using starter fits at 100% tax rate. We actually give it a go instead of suiciding, I'll have to try that! Do it on asian servers, if they're still available, it pisses people less ! Tried last night, couldn't bring myself to do it. Ended up grinding for ISK runnin bushes.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 297	Posted - 2014.05.29 14:04:00 - [35] - Quote ERMAGERD IM DEAD wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: ERMAGERD IM DEAD wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: We use an alt corp with starter fit with 100% tax with a single 6 man team, you can harvest 150k times 6 very quick by suicide with a nade ! When two teams are syncing trust me it goes very fast ! I've done this. 6 or 7 people on alts using starter fits at 100% tax rate. We actually give it a go instead of suiciding, I'll have to try that! Do it on asian servers, if they're still available, it pisses people less ! Tried last night, couldn't bring myself to do it. Ended up grinding for ISK runnin bushes. Create another account and route the cash afterward, but yes its tedious and boring...
ERMAGERD IM DEAD Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.05.29 16:25:00 - [36] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: ERMAGERD IM DEAD wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: ERMAGERD IM DEAD wrote: Gelhad Thremyr wrote: We use an alt corp with starter fit with 100% tax with a single 6 man team, you can harvest 150k times 6 very quick by suicide with a nade ! When two teams are syncing trust me it goes very fast ! I've done this. 6 or 7 people on alts using starter fits at 100% tax rate. We actually give it a go instead of suiciding, I'll have to try that! Do it on asian servers, if they're still available, it pisses people less ! Tried last night, couldn't bring myself to do it. Ended up grinding for ISK runnin bushes. Create another account and route the cash afterward, but yes its tedious and boring... I already have an account for this purpose and. That's what I tried it on. Made a little over a mil in no time at all.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3106	Posted - 2014.05.30 03:33:00 - [37] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Raise the tax to 15% and get your members to suck a little bit less and get payouts of 200k+ and you can get a clone pack every other day. Also Back in my day if you wanted your Corp to join PC you had to collect donations from your Corp because there was no tax system and we did just fine. Yup. I remember when I used to regularly donate to my corp to help us run PC. If your members want to get clone packs, they can certainly do it. People just always want the easy way out. Everyone wants to buy a clone pack every other day and not have to pay for it. Ghost.....PREACH man.. It's either people forgot or wasn't around.....or really want handouts. Back when pc started, there was no corp tax and noone had districts and every clone pack cost $80M ISK! Corp members grind in pubs and donated to the corp. That's what we had to do if we were serious about competing. I mean, everyone is running std gear, right? What is the problem? It used to cost $240M ISK to take a hub! Dudes need to work and put that grind in like early pc corps did. It's more rewarding if anything. You can't deny the facts. If PC mechanics provided enough satisfaction to continue the grind mentioned above, why was participation in PC so poor? Your statement sounds like an owner of a failing family restaurant that thinks it's the public's fault for not appreciating the great taste of the food. Who's participation in pc was poor? Are you referring to the dust playerbase? Because pc mechanics had little or nothing to do with the lack of dust playerbase participation. Only reason why more corps or every corp wasn't participating in pc is because they couldn't compete.....point, blank, period! Anyone saying otherwise is just in total denial. Removed all hope with this post
Benjamin Ciscko The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2302	Posted - 2014.05.30 03:52:00 - [38] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Raise the tax to 15% and get your members to suck a little bit less and get payouts of 200k+ and you can get a clone pack every other day. Also Back in my day if you wanted your Corp to join PC you had to collect donations from your Corp because there was no tax system and we did just fine. Yup. I remember when I used to regularly donate to my corp to help us run PC. If your members want to get clone packs, they can certainly do it. People just always want the easy way out. Everyone wants to buy a clone pack every other day and not have to pay for it. Ghost.....PREACH man.. It's either people forgot or wasn't around.....or really want handouts. Back when pc started, there was no corp tax and noone had districts and every clone pack cost $80M ISK! Corp members grind in pubs and donated to the corp. That's what we had to do if we were serious about competing. I mean, everyone is running std gear, right? What is the problem? It used to cost $240M ISK to take a hub! Dudes need to work and put that grind in like early pc corps did. It's more rewarding if anything. You can't deny the facts. If PC mechanics provided enough satisfaction to continue the grind mentioned above, why was participation in PC so poor? Your statement sounds like an owner of a failing family restaurant that thinks it's the public's fault for not appreciating the great taste of the food. Who's participation in pc was poor? Are you referring to the dust playerbase? Because pc mechanics had little or nothing to do with the lack of dust playerbase participation. Only reason why more corps or every corp wasn't participating in pc is because they couldn't compete.....point, blank, period! Anyone saying otherwise is just in total denial. I wish I could give you more likes, you got it spot on sure their are some corps that benefitted from this but it is only a handful the main problem is you could give a corp 1000 clones in a clone pack and they would still lose repeatedly. Tanker/Logi
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3107	Posted - 2014.05.30 04:38:00 - [39] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I wish I could give you more likes, you got it spot on sure their are some corps that benefitted from this but it is only a handful the main problem is you could give a corp 1000 clones in a clone pack and they would still lose repeatedly.[/quote] And those corps are aware of that...which is why they never bothered to compete. Some corps land grabbed in the beginning, only to lose their districts and never return. But if you notice, every corp wanted their own piece of PFC because they wouldn't be at risk for losing their district. You'll also notice a lot of corps holding land now....now that the more competitive corps are mostly gone. Removed all hope with this post
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3991	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:37:00 - [40] - Quote Does it really matter? You believe that 95% of the Dust playerbase didn't participate in PC because they were all weak vaginaz. I believe that this is very unlikely if you consider the sheer numbers and human nature. Either way participation from corps was not good. To increase participation you have to increase incentives or make the standing incentives easier to achieve. I had previously believed that these changes would just lead to strong teams going blood thirsty. There seems to be a lot of diversity and participation in PC right now so who knows. If it starts getting top heavy again then I believe they should lower clone pack costs to get people off the sidelines. Almost Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 9008	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:44:00 - [41] - Quote Congratulations Thor. You should probably update your signature. HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior Why Do Slayers Get All The Credit? :( -HAND
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4001	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:45:00 - [42] - Quote There are some pretty simple minded responses in this thread. It's cute that people think they are super human video game gods. If Dust had a playerbase that had been team deploying alongside PC in a low risk game mode for the last year there would be a lot more competition, pubs would be better, and the playerbase could be thriving. Some of you guys should read Freakonomics and some Malcolm Gladwell. You need to look at some cause and effect instead of just assuming everyone else is subhuman. Level 4 Forum Warrior PSN: wbrom42
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 305	Posted - 2014.06.01 15:26:00 - [43] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: There are some pretty simple minded responses in this thread. It's cute that people think they are super human video game gods. If Dust had a playerbase that had been team deploying alongside PC in a low risk game mode for the last year there would be a lot more competition, pubs would be better, and the playerbase could be thriving. Some of you guys should read Freakonomics and some Malcolm Gladwell. You need to look at some cause and effect instead of just assuming everyone else is subhuman. Try explaining that to 16 years old, its pretty much whats always been rampant here and they use modded controller to win more, so in environment of thinking, dont loose your time trying to explain basic game design to these poor souls that think they seen it all when we idiotic degenerate carebare have passed through the last 6 console generations and played over 200 games. You know nothing john snow ! Lol
Heimdallr69 2466	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:15:00 - [44] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Does it really matter? You believe that 95% of the Dust playerbase didn't participate in PC because they were all weak vaginaz. I believe that this is very unlikely if you consider the sheer numbers and human nature. Either way participation from corps was not good. To increase participation you have to increase incentives or make the standing incentives easier to achieve. I had previously believed that these changes would just lead to strong teams going blood thirsty. There seems to be a lot of diversity and participation in PC right now so who knows. If it starts getting top heavy again then I believe they should lower clone pack costs to get people off the sidelines. I don't think that was his point.. Look at STB they've always been in PC and they're not very good.. They have isk, these other corps don't have the isk to be throwing around just to lose in PC anyways. Or that's how I see it. Also there are corps that'd use ringers so that's even more isk in the toilet. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
gfdfggffgfdf Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.06.01 18:53:00 - [45] - Quote lol PC. For the longest time, it was broken due to exploits and rubberbanding. This includes uplink spam, melee glitching, and more. Also, ppl drop OBs to pad their stats just to look good, chest beat, and brag on the forums with pics. It's supposed to be the epitome of competitive squad play for this game, but up until recently, the lag was so horrid that most of that didnt matter. It was negated. With that, there was no way to truely demonstrate your level of skill against each other as ur fighting against lag and not skill or teamwork. The only point to owning districts in this game was to save up a **** ton of ISK to move on to Legion. Now that passive ISK from PC is gone theres really no point to owning more than a few and enjoying the fights. Cant guarantee that they'll all be good ones. My advice is to move on to other games cause even CCP said at FF that this game wasnt very good. Maybe it'll be better in Legion, but now its pointless.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3114	Posted - 2014.06.01 19:23:00 - [46] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Does it really matter? You believe that 95% of the Dust playerbase didn't participate in PC because they were all weak vaginaz. I believe that this is very unlikely if you consider the sheer numbers and human nature. Either way participation from corps was not good. To increase participation you have to increase incentives or make the standing incentives easier to achieve. I had previously believed that these changes would just lead to strong teams going blood thirsty. There seems to be a lot of diversity and participation in PC right now so who knows. If it starts getting top heavy again then I believe they should lower clone pack costs to get people off the sidelines. They lowered clone packs to $36M and there still weren't attacks sent out. Human nature, by most fps shooters, aren't competitive...it's why most people to flock to the best corps that their talent can take them instead of growing and building up in ones they were a part of. There is no greater incentive than generating ISK..and pc has always been about generating ISK. Still...noone attacked. Why is it that after all of this time....you see these pub stomping corps moving into pc all of a sudden? Nothing has changed other than most of the competition leaving the game. Removed all hope with this post


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