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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.27 18:49:00 -
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It's not that it isn't possible. It is that it's unlikely for people to grind like that at this stage of the game.
The more likely scenario would be the players being asked to grind in cheap gear over the weekend leaving to join a corporation that has ISK and participates in PC.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.28 03:19:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Raise the tax to 15% and get your members to suck a little bit less and get payouts of 200k+ and you can get a clone pack every other day.
Also Back in my day if you wanted your Corp to join PC you had to collect donations from your Corp because there was no tax system and we did just fine. Yup. I remember when I used to regularly donate to my corp to help us run PC. If your members want to get clone packs, they can certainly do it. People just always want the easy way out. Everyone wants to buy a clone pack every other day and not have to pay for it. Ghost.....PREACH man.. It's either people forgot or wasn't around.....or really want handouts. Back when pc started, there was no corp tax and noone had districts and every clone pack cost $80M ISK! Corp members grind in pubs and donated to the corp. That's what we had to do if we were serious about competing. I mean, everyone is running std gear, right? What is the problem? It used to cost $240M ISK to take a hub! Dudes need to work and put that grind in like early pc corps did. It's more rewarding if anything.
You can't deny the facts. If PC mechanics provided enough satisfaction to continue the grind mentioned above, why was participation in PC so poor? Your statement sounds like an owner of a family restaurant that thinks it's the public's fault for not appreciating the great taste of the food.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.28 16:32:00 -
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Gelhad Thremyr wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Raise the tax to 15% and get your members to suck a little bit less and get payouts of 200k+ and you can get a clone pack every other day.
Also Back in my day if you wanted your Corp to join PC you had to collect donations from your Corp because there was no tax system and we did just fine. Yup. I remember when I used to regularly donate to my corp to help us run PC. If your members want to get clone packs, they can certainly do it. People just always want the easy way out. Everyone wants to buy a clone pack every other day and not have to pay for it. Ghost.....PREACH man.. It's either people forgot or wasn't around.....or really want handouts. Back when pc started, there was no corp tax and noone had districts and every clone pack cost $80M ISK! Corp members grind in pubs and donated to the corp. That's what we had to do if we were serious about competing. I mean, everyone is running std gear, right? What is the problem? It used to cost $240M ISK to take a hub! Dudes need to work and put that grind in like early pc corps did. It's more rewarding if anything. You can't deny the facts. If PC mechanics provided enough satisfaction to continue the grind mentioned above, why was participation in PC so poor? Your statement sounds like an owner of a failing family restaurant that thinks it's the public's fault for not appreciating the great taste of the food. Totally agree that overall owning a district brings j a c k f u c k. Im getting to a point where im leasure playing this game !
And that is where most people are if they haven't totally given up. I don't understand why people are wanting PC to be some uber serious longterm gamemode. Tweak all the numbers so that its a place that you don't have to put up with blueberries on your team. They can give us corp battles by working with what we have in PC.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:37:00 -
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Does it really matter? You believe that 95% of the Dust playerbase didn't participate in PC because they were all weak vaginaz. I believe that this is very unlikely if you consider the sheer numbers and human nature. Either way participation from corps was not good.
To increase participation you have to increase incentives or make the standing incentives easier to achieve. I had previously believed that these changes would just lead to strong teams going blood thirsty. There seems to be a lot of diversity and participation in PC right now so who knows. If it starts getting top heavy again then I believe they should lower clone pack costs to get people off the sidelines.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:45:00 -
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There are some pretty simple minded responses in this thread.
It's cute that people think they are super human video game gods. If Dust had a playerbase that had been team deploying alongside PC in a low risk game mode for the last year there would be a lot more competition, pubs would be better, and the playerbase could be thriving.
Some of you guys should read Freakonomics and some Malcolm Gladwell. You need to look at some cause and effect instead of just assuming everyone else is subhuman.
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