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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.05.27 21:44:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Raise the tax to 15% and get your members to suck a little bit less and get payouts of 200k+ and you can get a clone pack every other day.
Also Back in my day if you wanted your Corp to join PC you had to collect donations from your Corp because there was no tax system and we did just fine. Yup. I remember when I used to regularly donate to my corp to help us run PC. If your members want to get clone packs, they can certainly do it. People just always want the easy way out. Everyone wants to buy a clone pack every other day and not have to pay for it.
Ghost.....PREACH man..
It's either people forgot or wasn't around.....or really want handouts. Back when pc started, there was no corp tax and noone had districts and every clone pack cost $80M ISK! Corp members grind in pubs and donated to the corp. That's what we had to do if we were serious about competing. I mean, everyone is running std gear, right? What is the problem?
It used to cost $240M ISK to take a hub! Dudes need to work and put that grind in like early pc corps did. It's more rewarding if anything.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.05.30 03:33:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Raise the tax to 15% and get your members to suck a little bit less and get payouts of 200k+ and you can get a clone pack every other day.
Also Back in my day if you wanted your Corp to join PC you had to collect donations from your Corp because there was no tax system and we did just fine. Yup. I remember when I used to regularly donate to my corp to help us run PC. If your members want to get clone packs, they can certainly do it. People just always want the easy way out. Everyone wants to buy a clone pack every other day and not have to pay for it. Ghost.....PREACH man.. It's either people forgot or wasn't around.....or really want handouts. Back when pc started, there was no corp tax and noone had districts and every clone pack cost $80M ISK! Corp members grind in pubs and donated to the corp. That's what we had to do if we were serious about competing. I mean, everyone is running std gear, right? What is the problem? It used to cost $240M ISK to take a hub! Dudes need to work and put that grind in like early pc corps did. It's more rewarding if anything. You can't deny the facts. If PC mechanics provided enough satisfaction to continue the grind mentioned above, why was participation in PC so poor? Your statement sounds like an owner of a failing family restaurant that thinks it's the public's fault for not appreciating the great taste of the food.
Who's participation in pc was poor? Are you referring to the dust playerbase? Because pc mechanics had little or nothing to do with the lack of dust playerbase participation. Only reason why more corps or every corp wasn't participating in pc is because they couldn't compete.....point, blank, period! Anyone saying otherwise is just in total denial.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.05.30 04:38:00 -
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I wish I could give you more likes, you got it spot on sure their are some corps that benefitted from this but it is only a handful the main problem is you could give a corp 1000 clones in a clone pack and they would still lose repeatedly.[/quote]
And those corps are aware of that...which is why they never bothered to compete. Some corps land grabbed in the beginning, only to lose their districts and never return.
But if you notice, every corp wanted their own piece of PFC because they wouldn't be at risk for losing their district. You'll also notice a lot of corps holding land now....now that the more competitive corps are mostly gone.
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Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:23:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Does it really matter? You believe that 95% of the Dust playerbase didn't participate in PC because they were all weak vaginaz. I believe that this is very unlikely if you consider the sheer numbers and human nature. Either way participation from corps was not good.
To increase participation you have to increase incentives or make the standing incentives easier to achieve. I had previously believed that these changes would just lead to strong teams going blood thirsty. There seems to be a lot of diversity and participation in PC right now so who knows. If it starts getting top heavy again then I believe they should lower clone pack costs to get people off the sidelines.
They lowered clone packs to $36M and there still weren't attacks sent out. Human nature, by most fps shooters, aren't competitive...it's why most people to flock to the best corps that their talent can take them instead of growing and building up in ones they were a part of.
There is no greater incentive than generating ISK..and pc has always been about generating ISK. Still...noone attacked. Why is it that after all of this time....you see these pub stomping corps moving into pc all of a sudden? Nothing has changed other than most of the competition leaving the game.
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