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FIRST TESTDUMMY Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 128	Posted - 2014.05.27 14:58:00 - [1] - Quote Why do they always go all out in matches? Due to where I live, I'm always on during the peak hours of many Japanese corps' playing times. I'm consistently pitted against organized squads of S.A.I.U.K.I, Lord British, Nyain San, Eve Corporation, etc., and all of my experiences facing off with any of them are the same. It's as if these guys know no restraint. Right from the get-go, they're zerg rushing objectives in all-out proto, derpships, and tanks. They never let up or give their opponents any chances to push in. I played a Domination match last night on the bridge map, and my team was immediately redlined by the time we hacked our side's CRU. It was insane. What made it even more jaw-dropping was that my team could not even fight back from the redline. Any blue attempting to snipe was Thales'ed in the face. Any tank or derpship called in was destroyed even before touching the ground. Any blueberry attempting to make it down the hill was met with concentrated fire. I experience these type of matches frequently and it amazes me how these players seem to always put in 110%. What's great is when two or more of these Japanese corps face off against each other in a match. They make for one hell of a show.
Meee One BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 792	Posted - 2014.05.27 15:07:00 - [2] - Quote FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: Why do they always go all out in matches? Due to where I live, I'm always on during the peak hours of many Japanese corps' playing times. I'm consistently pitted against organized squads of S.A.I.U.K.I, Lord British, Nyain San, Eve Corporation, etc., and all of my experiences facing off with any of them are the same. It's as if these guys know no restraint. Right from the get-go, they're zerg rushing objectives in all-out proto, derpships, and tanks. They never let up or give their opponents any chances to push in. I played a Domination match last night on the bridge map, and my team was immediately redlined by the time we hacked our side's CRU. It was insane. What made it even more jaw-dropping was that my team could not even fight back from the redline. Any blue attempting to snipe was Thales'ed in the face. Any tank or derpship called in was destroyed even before touching the ground. Any blueberry attempting to make it down the hill was met with concentrated fire. I experience these type of matches frequently and it amazes me how these players seem to always put in 110%. What's great is when two or more of these Japanese corps face off against each other in a match. They make for one hell of a show. I never knew Great Britain was in Japan. Mind = Blown
Powerh8er Heaven's Lost Property 424	Posted - 2014.05.27 15:13:00 - [3] - Quote "Come on guys, we gotta win this pubmatch at all costs!" - unknown tryhard.
TheDarthMa94 The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 310	Posted - 2014.05.27 15:38:00 - [4] - Quote The question is, "Why wouldn't they?" They work their way to that point, so why not use all those ISK and proto suits in a match. Director of NAO "People are always telling me how lucky I am. But the truth is, everything I touch turns to shit"
Meee One BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 792	Posted - 2014.05.27 15:58:00 - [5] - Quote TheDarthMa94 wrote: The question is, "Why wouldn't they?" They work their way to that point, so why not use all those ISK and proto suits in a match.
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 941	Posted - 2014.05.27 16:12:00 - [6] - Quote Meee One wrote: FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: Why do they always go all out in matches? Due to where I live, I'm always on during the peak hours of many Japanese corps' playing times. I'm consistently pitted against organized squads of S.A.I.U.K.I, Lord British, Nyain San, Eve Corporation, etc., and all of my experiences facing off with any of them are the same. It's as if these guys know no restraint. Right from the get-go, they're zerg rushing objectives in all-out proto, derpships, and tanks. They never let up or give their opponents any chances to push in. I played a Domination match last night on the bridge map, and my team was immediately redlined by the time we hacked our side's CRU. It was insane. What made it even more jaw-dropping was that my team could not even fight back from the redline. Any blue attempting to snipe was Thales'ed in the face. Any tank or derpship called in was destroyed even before touching the ground. Any blueberry attempting to make it down the hill was met with concentrated fire. I experience these type of matches frequently and it amazes me how these players seem to always put in 110%. What's great is when two or more of these Japanese corps face off against each other in a match. They make for one hell of a show. I never knew Great Britain was in Japan. Mind = Blown Lord British is Japanese. Mind = Blown. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous CCP Logibro is not forum, Mike Ruan is forum! I once owned half of a district.
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 510	Posted - 2014.05.27 16:18:00 - [7] - Quote The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 745	Posted - 2014.05.27 16:25:00 - [8] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. Hmmm the Marines have a hell of a shock and awe strategy.. not sure your statement is 100% accurate. I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Vapor Forseti Nyain Chan 503	Posted - 2014.05.27 16:32:00 - [9] - Quote Every time I squad with Nyains, it's almost always quiet. Only time when the silence is broken is when you can hear someone's 4 year old daughter complaining about x and y doing something to zed - there's almost no communication between us whatsoever. Just place a defend order and go wild. And about going "all out", what are you supposed to do? Hold back? >CCP Saberwing: NERF EVERYTHING!!!
Ahkhomi Cypher Team Bad Decisions 61	Posted - 2014.05.27 17:30:00 - [10] - Quote If this was Madden and i had a chance to put 70 on you AND lock you out I'd do it. Tired of gettin styled on? Well stop me from styling on you. runs ball for the 36546th time with McCoy

Izlare Lenix Last VenDetta. 613	Posted - 2014.05.27 18:22:00 - [11] - Quote Losing a pub match would bring dishonor to their families thus they would have to commit hari-kari. This is why Japanese players almost always use the bitchiest tactics full of tank spam and OP FOTM. This is also why these corps proto stomp ambush 24/7 against entire teams of noobs. There is literally nothing noobs can do against a full squad of proto stompers in ambush. Thus to always guarantee a victory these Japanese corps will continue to steamrool noobs in ambush while padding their stats and protecting their families honor. Thus will continue until the Dust servers are finally unplugged. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 943	Posted - 2014.05.27 19:13:00 - [12] - Quote Tis about the sacrifice for the group. Public Relations - tick tick BOOM. PSN: CallOfTheDark
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 774	Posted - 2014.05.27 19:15:00 - [13] - Quote What, do you expect them to group up together like that and then do nothing all match? The real issue is actual balanced matches... they happen every so often and they show how this game should / could have been. As much as its annoying man, its just how it is and honestly it wont change in DUST514 that's for sure. If your solo and you want to be a cheap ass.... Make a totally militia fit with a militia forge gun and practice your forge sniping. Swatting protos with a fit that costs like a few k isk at max, is truly gratifying. Then, if you get bored of that... bust out the old Gastuns Forge gun. THEN you will have some fun for sure. The second you start getting kills with it, the whole enemy team starts trying to bum rush you! (And why wouldn't they, officer weapon kill!) That can be great fun.
Jacques Cayton II Pradox One Proficiency V. 801	Posted - 2014.05.27 20:54:00 - [14] - Quote I crush all japs under my boots just like my pap did in WWII. Murica!!!!! We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1677	Posted - 2014.05.27 20:59:00 - [15] - Quote I have always wondered that too. I mean shouldn't these mother ***** be in school, designing my electronics, or ***** a life sized anime love pillow anyway? Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
waistr DEAD-MEN-WALKING 187	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:00:00 - [16] - Quote You are getting off easy All their good player quit...... supposedly
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 760	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:11:00 - [17] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Losing a pub match would bring dishonor to their families thus they would have to commit hari-kari. This is why Japanese players almost always use the bitchiest tactics full of tank spam and OP FOTM. This is also why these corps proto stomp ambush 24/7 against entire teams of noobs. There is literally nothing noobs can do against a full squad of proto stompers in ambush. Thus to always guarantee a victory these Japanese corps will continue to steamrool noobs in ambush while padding their stats and protecting their families honor. Thus will continue until the Dust servers are finally unplugged. The butthurt is strong in this one... I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 390	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:33:00 - [18] - Quote FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: Why do they always go all out in matches? Due to where I live, I'm always on during the peak hours of many Japanese corps' playing times. I'm consistently pitted against organized squads of S.A.I.U.K.I, Lord British, Nyain San, Eve Corporation, etc., and all of my experiences facing off with any of them are the same. It's as if these guys know no restraint. Right from the get-go, they're zerg rushing objectives in all-out proto, derpships, and tanks. They never let up or give their opponents any chances to push in. I played a Domination match last night on the bridge map, and my team was immediately redlined by the time we hacked our side's CRU. It was insane. What made it even more jaw-dropping was that my team could not even fight back from the redline. Any blue attempting to snipe was Thales'ed in the face. Any tank or derpship called in was destroyed even before touching the ground. Any blueberry attempting to make it down the hill was met with concentrated fire. I experience these type of matches frequently and it amazes me how these players seem to always put in 110%. What's great is when two or more of these Japanese corps face off against each other in a match. They make for one hell of a show. I'll tell you this. I run PROTO for any match that has objectives. I run MLT or super cheap variants (i.e. maybe swap out a weapon) in Ambush and grind the heck out of it for isk. IMO, 70% of peoples pub matches played should be ambush with MLT gear. I'm terrible at FPS but I got much better playing cheap gear even when I could have went proto. Nothing pushes your skills upwards like ambush grinding with low level stuff. As for those guys stomping. It happens. Even though I run proto I normally camp an objective and wait for people to come to me. It is a trap. Anyway, keep trying. Focus on ambush with MLT stuff and get better with that and then you'll find that you can stomp them back even with lesser gear. PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 111	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:42:00 - [19] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. "Americans pushovers"? Speak for yourself, ****. We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."* -Robert E. Lee
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 340	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:44:00 - [20] - Quote waistr wrote: You are getting off easy All their good player quit...... supposedly They had a good player? I could never tell through all the lagging and glitching.

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 793	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:47:00 - [21] - Quote TheDarthMa94 wrote: The question is, "Why wouldn't they?" They work their way to that point, so why not use all those ISK and proto suits in a match. Work? What work? http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust, theme
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 198	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:58:00 - [22] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. "Americans pushovers"? Speak for yourself, ***. We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time. Well if U call the use of a couple of Atomic Bombs a legit win, then they have every right to do as they please DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!**
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 111	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:05:00 - [23] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. "Americans pushovers"? Speak for yourself, ****. We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time. Well if U call the use of a couple of Atomic Bombs a legit to win, then they have every right to do as they please "Legit to win"? It was war! After what they did they are lucky we didn't drop more and lynch the Emperor. In dropping those bombs, several million lives were saved on both sides. Learn your history. And you make these comments the day after our Memorial Day holiday? Be glad I'm not standing in front of you. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."* -Robert E. Lee
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 198	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:27:00 - [24] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. "Americans pushovers"? Speak for yourself, ***. We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time. Well if U call the use of a couple of Atomic Bombs a legit to win, then they have every right to do as they please "Legit to win"? It was war! After what they did they are lucky we didn't drop more and lynch the Emperor. In dropping those bombs, several million lives were saved on both sides. Learn your history. And you make these comments the day after our Memorial Day holiday? Be glad I'm not standing in front of you. When Pearl Harbour was attacked 2,403 Americans were killed. When Japan was attacked by U.S Atomic Bombs : killed 90,000GÇô166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000GÇô80,000 in Nagasaki; roughly half of the deaths in each city occurred on the first day. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness. In both cities, most of the dead were civilians There is a VERY BIG DIFFERENCE in lives lost. "Be glad I'm not standing in front of you" You're right I already got free head today. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!**
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 113	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:40:00 - [25] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. "Americans pushovers"? Speak for yourself, ***. We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time. Well if U call the use of a couple of Atomic Bombs a legit to win, then they have every right to do as they please "Legit to win"? It was war! After what they did they are lucky we didn't drop more and lynch the Emperor. In dropping those bombs, several million lives were saved on both sides. Learn your history. And you make these comments the day after our Memorial Day holiday? Be glad I'm not standing in front of you. When Pearl Harbour was attacked 2,403 Americans were killed. When Japan was attacked by U.S Atomic Bombs : killed 90,000GÇô166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000GÇô80,000 in Nagasaki; roughly half of the deaths in each city occurred on the first day. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness. In both cities, most of the dead were civilians** There is a VERY BIG DIFFERENCE in lives lost. "Be glad I'm not standing in front of you" You're right I already got free head today. By the way you spelled "Harbour" I am guessing you are either European or Canadian which tells me most of what our readers need to know. The way you win a war is by making your opponent no longer able to bear the losses. You kill them until they surrender. This is what is known as total war. Should the US have not tried to win? Go easy? We were fighting for our lives. As a Canadian or Euro your comments are on par. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10309	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:45:00 - [26] - Quote Lol won a war...... Considering the British and Common Wealth Forces (inclusive of Australia and New Zealand), French, and smaller occupied Nations spent several years already at war across Europe, Africa, and in Asia.... is suppose credit where credit is due is required. The America Army came late in the war, fresh, with well developed technology from a war machine that had not suffered under the Blitz. At full strength another world power joining the allies was logically going to push the balance of power over the edge and Germany committed its strength across too many fronts. Acting like it was some benevolent action is fallacy. Additionally saying ignorant statements like "America won the war" is down right disrespectful to all those of the other nationalities who gave their lives so that other nations had the peace they did for so long. Claiming one particular nation was any more crucial than the others is ignorant. Whose ships plied the North Atlantic, whose fighter pilots fought in the Battle of Britain, whose soldiers took Monte Cassino, El Alamein, Cairo? Having been to the grave-sites all along the Normandy Coastline, Arlington Cemetery, the cemeteries in New Zealand where our fallen lie it is clear to see everyone paid a price for their contribution to the war and it is only because of those contributions of those people that we can be hear today. Markdown:
waistr DEAD-MEN-WALKING 187	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:46:00 - [27] - Quote Ill give you a constructive suggestion that may help change your server region Oceania.... not a lot of people playing, matches are not always full, but lots of isk to be made Europe... still some proto stomping but matches are usually balanced and competitive. Asia...stay away America.. proto stomping Latinos, but they are beatable, love their tanks automatic.... not recommended scotty will usually fit you in against full squads, you takes your chances and pays your dues what ever you choose if that isn't working try changing servers it all you can do
SAIRAX SIS Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:49:00 - [28] - Quote GG lol have a nice day :)
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 113	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:52:00 - [29] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lol won a war...... Considering the British and Common Wealth Forces (inclusive of Australia and New Zealand), French, and smaller occupied Nations spent several years already at war across Europe, Africa, and in Asia.... is suppose credit where credit is due is required. The America Army came late in the war, fresh, with well developed technology from a war machine that had not suffered under the Blitz. At full strength another world power joining the allies was logically going to push the balance of power over the edge and Germany committed its strength across too many fronts. Acting like it was some benevolent action is fallacy. Additionally saying ignorant statements like "America won the war" is down right disrespectful to all those of the other nationalities who gave their lives so that other nations had the peace they did for so long. Claiming one particular nation was any more crucial than the others is ignorant. Whose ships plied the North Atlantic, whose fighter pilots fought in the Battle of Britain, whose soldiers took Monte Cassino, El Alamein, Cairo? Having been to the grave-sites all along the Normandy Coastline, Arlington Cemetery, the cemeteries in New Zealand where our fallen lie it is clear to see everyone paid a price for their contribution to the war and it is only because of those contributions of those people that we can be hear today. If you want to have a discussion about the European Theatre in WW2 we certainly can. I am speaking of the war in the Pacific as the spirit of this thread suggests. You are reaching and I'm not sure why. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Jacques Cayton II Pradox One Proficiency V. 802	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:52:00 - [30] - Quote Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals

Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1305	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:52:00 - [31] - Quote That's awesome! They are very disciplined and focused! I do think its more fun with a std suit and interesting fights but good to know they are giving it their all. I would love to see them go head to head!
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1305	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:03:00 - [32] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: I have always wondered that too. I mean shouldn't these mother ***** be in school, designing my electronics, or *** a life sized anime love pillow anyway? Are you murrican? Shouldn't you be in the army, fracking the ground, or be so ***** obese that you have to use a chair to move around? I am really ashamed to call my self an american.
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 113	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:07:00 - [33] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: I have always wondered that too. I mean shouldn't these mother ***** be in school, designing my electronics, or *** a life sized anime love pillow anyway? Are you murrican? Shouldn't you be in the army, fracking the ground, or be so ***** obese that you have to use a chair to move around? I am really ashamed to call my self an american. That is your right. American's are far from perfect. But I am proud to be an American. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 424	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:11:00 - [34] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. Hmmm the Marines have a hell of a shock and awe strategy.. not sure your statement is 100% accurate. Tip of the spear baby. That's what we do best. Hoorah Support Balancing scouts
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10310	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:14:00 - [35] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. Markdown:
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 113	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:22:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I usually respect your posts but not this thread. You may not be trying to insult any member of US armed forces but I can assure you that you indeed are doing just that. And since when is trying to survive and win a conflict about "engaging another entity with the same technological level as they." That is, and I am being polite, an ignorant statement. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
Zirzo Valcyn Gunners Acadamy 527	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:26:00 - [37] - Quote complaining about races over the internet, sounds legit u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10311	Posted - 2014.05.27 23:34:00 - [38] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I usually respect your posts but not this thread. You may not be trying to insult any member of US armed forces but I can assure you that you indeed are doing just that. And since when is trying to survive and win a conflict about "engaging another entity with the same technological level as they." That is, and I am being polite, an ignorant statement. For the most part however it is true. However I will stand corrected in terms of modern history if you can cite and example. Since WW2 America has been at the forefront of the development of military technology....its budget for such things is astronomical. But since the Second World War..... America has primarily seen conflict in Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq. In this time the efforts have mainly been considered Police Actions, Peacekeeping, and Region Stabilising. I am only saying the technologically countries like Russia, China, European Nations, and America have been unmatched able to mobilise massive amount of man power, vehicle assets, etc. What enemy in these modern conflicts have been able to match that level of technology? Few if any. I do not see how I am insulting any members of the military other than stating a view. All soldiers are brave, braver than I think I could be doing what they do, and what they do more often than not is a combinations of what they feel is right....but that's not for me to comment on. All I can comment on is what the outer appearance of these things express to me. In this case let us take the Korean War. American forces deployed the latest in their arsenal of technologies, new automatic weaponry, heavy use of helicopters for scouting, attacking, and medical scenarios alongside mobile and stocked hospitals with the latest medical practices and technologies. This against the North Koreans who were at the time not half so well equipped as the united nations forces. I feel we are getting back off topic. However reasonably if you expect a great deal of respect to be shown to the American militaries both past and present then the same standards should be applied to all soldiers who served their counties. Markdown:
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 113	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:06:00 - [39] - Quote Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride. The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more. I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
LT Shanx OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 107	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:31:00 - [40] - Quote I play Domination a lot and I've had my fair share of squadding up with corps such as EveCorporation and SAIUKI, and what I noticed is that they don't really try hard at all. I know enough Japanese to have basic conversation and from my times squadding with these players, I can say that they are very lax. Unlike Brits and Americans, the Japanese are quiet and easy going. They don't scream over comms and are generally not overly excited. All they seem to do is put defend orders on squad members and they somehow all act accordingly and move as one. It's funny because many of the games I've played with them, some would have just gotten off of work and would be eating while playing while others would be silently drunk and doing rather well in the background.

Jacques Cayton II Pradox One Proficiency V. 802	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:37:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I'm baffled at your ignorance. I've trained with many other nations and fought beside them(didn't wanna pull out my deployment hoopla), but I have yet to see a military as well trained as America. Minus the Polish, they are some bad muthertruckers. And I love how ANA put shiny stickers on their weapons it makes them look and dare I say it fabulous. And regarding your post since when has any country won a war without making some new innovative technology. And sorry I love my country it's young it doesn't have a culture that can date back to the early years of man we like to show our power and if you don't like it then do something about if not sit back and watch me get drunk at some American football game We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jacques Cayton II Pradox One Proficiency V. 802	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:40:00 - [42] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride. The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more. I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? This guy gets it We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10311	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:41:00 - [43] - Quote LT Shanx wrote: I play Domination a lot and I've had my fair share of squadding up with corps such as EveCorporation and SAIUKI, and what I noticed is that they don't really try hard at all. I know enough Japanese to have basic conversation and from my times squadding with these players, I can say that they are very lax. Unlike Brits and Americans, the Japanese are quiet and easy going. They don't scream over comms and are generally not overly excited. All they seem to do is put defend orders on squad members and they somehow all act accordingly and move as one. It's funny because many of the games I've played with them, some would have just gotten off of work and would be eating while playing while others would be silently drunk and doing rather well in the background. I wish I could do that...... but I only really come onto Dust to chat with my squad mates...... "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10311	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:50:00 - [44] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride. The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more. I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? This guy gets it Not to be ridiculed at all. The British Empire lost several engagements again vastly less developed militarise. Roakes Drift, Waikato Wars. It is nothing to be ridiculed over. My intial point was that the Americans came late to the second world war, they had time before they formally declared to speed up the industrial machines, and were not subject to crippling attacks to their infrastructure like Britain was. The American did fundamentally alter the balance of the war but they did not win it, no one nation did. That was my original point, following up on that was that the American military deserved no more or less respect that any other military as a result of the Second World War. All nations committed men to the war effiort, all have victories and losses, and all soldiers sacrificed themselves for the same goal. To tout an "American victory" of this conflict I felt was ignorant so I commented. Then when Jaques stated that the American Tank Company defeated an Iraqi Battalion I also commented stating that the equipment and training a group has significantly affects its performance. It is not surprising that a nation with a significantly more developed military would beat that of a less developed military. But of course history points out that even with superior technological advancements such a force can still be beaten so the entire matter is a moot point I suppose. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Doctor Day Glitched Connection 270	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:59:00 - [45] - Quote Man idk.....Shouldn't the japanse be watching anime jacking off to it?
Jacques Cayton II Pradox One Proficiency V. 802	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:59:00 - [46] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride. The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more. I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? This guy gets it Not to be ridiculed at all. The British Empire lost several engagements again vastly less developed militarise. Roakes Drift, Waikato Wars. It is nothing to be ridiculed over. My intial point was that the Americans came late to the second world war, they had time before they formally declared to speed up the industrial machines, and were not subject to crippling attacks to their infrastructure like Britain was. The American did fundamentally alter the balance of the war but they did not win it, no one nation did. That was my original point, following up on that was that the American military deserved no more or less respect that any other military as a result of the Second World War. All nations committed men to the war effiort, all have victories and losses, and all soldiers sacrificed themselves for the same goal. To tout an "American victory" of this conflict I felt was ignorant so I commented. Then when Jaques stated that the American Tank Company defeated an Iraqi Battalion I also commented stating that the equipment and training a group has significantly affects its performance. It is not surprising that a nation with a significantly more developed military would beat that of a less developed military. But of course history points out that even with superior technological advancements such a force can still be beaten so the entire matter is a moot point I suppose. Let me school you real quick. Iraq at the time just got done with a war with Iran. Now Mr ******* whom had the 9th largest military in the world at that time decided I want Kuwait. Then American tanks destroyed I forget like 200 to 300 tanks with only a battalion and we only lost 1 Bradley with 2 causality e's. Are tanks were well trained yes, they had tech yes, what they didn't have. Defensive fortifications, infantry, and most importantly battle experience. We caught the Iraqi military by surprise because they thought we wouldn't come that way. Why you might ask because it's a desert with no landmarks which means no mapping. That's where gps comes in and then we kicked their ass. It's funny how something as simple as gps can destroy an entire military. We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Izlare Lenix Last VenDetta. 614	Posted - 2014.05.28 01:00:00 - [47] - Quote It had been suggested by many experts that dropping the A-bombs saved roughly 4 million lives. This includeds Japanese military and civilians and of course American and allied military. The Japanese would have fought to the death for every inch of Japan. The suffering and causilties would have been horrendous for the Japanese people and who knows how much longer that war would have lasted. I would also like to point out there were many cities during WWII that were conventionally bombed resulting in total destrction and tens of thousands of lives lost. So what difference does it make if one bomb destroys a city of a few thousand bombs? The Japanese were also guilty of many atrocities and mass murders while trying to expand their empire. Hell the Naking Massacar alone was genocide and the Japanese military murderd well over 300,000 Chinese. So yes the US dropping the bomb was horrible and many Japanese died, however, we did it to end a terrible war not to expand our territory. Lastly, both Germany and Japan were working on their own nuclear projects. The world should be thankful we beat them to it, otherwise things could have gone much different and the ***** and Japanese Empire could be ruling the world right now. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10311	Posted - 2014.05.28 01:03:00 - [48] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I'm baffled at your ignorance. I've trained with many other nations and fought beside them(didn't wanna pull out my deployment hoopla), but I have yet to see a military as well trained as America. Minus the Polish, they are some bad muthertruckers. And I love how ANA put shiny stickers on their weapons it makes them look and dare I say it fabulous. And regarding your post since when has any country won a war without making some new innovative technology. And sorry I love my country it's young it doesn't have a culture that can date back to the early years of man we like to show our power and if you don't like it then do something about it if not sit back and watch me get drunk at some American football game Why are you personally attacking me. As I have said I cannot comment on the current status of the American military however I can drawn from historical circumstances.....and originally this...I suppose its a flame war of sorts now originated from a comment stating that Eruditus 920 wrote: "Americans pushovers"? Speak for yourself, ****. We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time. This was the cause of my first post. No SINGLE Nation won the Second WORLD War. All nations contributed how they could best at the time. As for your original comment I commented mainly because of sort of arrogance in your post that I suppose provoked me more than anything. I suppose to take pride in something is wonderful but to forget that, and all nations and peoples have done it, that mistakes were made does not do justice to those who were made victims by those mistakes. I don't think I ever openly criticised the American military or the people in it, if anything I have praised military personnel as I think what they do for their country is something that they should be proud of. Nor have I said that they should be looked down upon because of their technological supremacy, only suggested that it is an aspect that affects the outcome of battle....else why continue to develop? "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10311	Posted - 2014.05.28 01:30:00 - [49] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I'm baffled at your ignorance. I've trained with many other nations and fought beside them(didn't wanna pull out my deployment hoopla), but I have yet to see a military as well trained as America. Minus the Polish, they are some bad muthertruckers. And I love how ANA put shiny stickers on their weapons it makes them look and dare I say it fabulous. And regarding your post since when has any country won a war without making some new innovative technology. And sorry I love my country it's young it doesn't have a culture that can date back to the early years of man we like to show our power and if you don't like it then do something about it if not sit back and watch me get drunk at some American football game Soldiers from New Zealand , especially the Maori Battalions were considered some of the most elite and fearsome soldiers of the second world war. Currently I don't feel qualified to compare the soldiers from modern armies, nor do I intend to. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 228	Posted - 2014.05.28 02:00:00 - [50] - Quote Everyone is awesome. Everyone has committed an atrocity sometime in history. Debating over who did what is a matter of perspective, one that will and can be debated forever. True Adamance, you are absolutely right. Americans died right alongside British, Canadians. Japanese killed themselves to defend their families and honor. Remember the Anzacs. These things have happened. Honor the courage of all the people who did what they did because they wanted to/thought it was right, and work towards making sure it never happens again. I don't ever want to have to kill any of you in real life, look you in the eyes. Hopefully you feel the same. But we both will if our beliefs are strong. Respect to all you in the armed forces, respect to True Adamance for expressing and defending his views. Now let us stop this, and make the time we have left with Dust all the more fun Goodnight all From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.- 501st Headstrong.

APOPHIS Xxx Global Elite Killers 42	Posted - 2014.05.28 02:05:00 - [51] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: I crush all japs under my boots just like my pap did in WWII. Murica!!!!! Your paps was in the rear with the gear like yourself you scrub. I'll be looking for you on the battlefield and we'll see what you can do to this half Jap. Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!


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