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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
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Posted - 2014.05.27 22:52:00 -
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That's awesome! They are very disciplined and focused! I do think its more fun with a std suit and interesting fights but good to know they are giving it their all. I would love to see them go head to head! |
Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:03:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:I have always wondered that too. I mean shouldn't these mother ******* be in school, designing my electronics, or ******* a life sized anime love pillow anyway? Are you murrican? Shouldn't you be in the army, fracking the ground, or be so ******* obese that you have to use a chair to move around?
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:07:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:I have always wondered that too. I mean shouldn't these mother ******* be in school, designing my electronics, or ******* a life sized anime love pillow anyway? Are you murrican? Shouldn't you be in the army, fracking the ground, or be so ******* obese that you have to use a chair to move around? I am really ashamed to call my self an american.
That is your right.
American's are far from perfect.
But I am proud to be an American.
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."
-Robert E. Lee
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:11:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:The Japanese once practiced kamikaze. These bros have a reputation for going all out, no matter the cost. Americans... we're kind of pushovers. We're all about "resource-management" and "not using our best at first". Which is fine, just make sure you save a final, really big explosive in your pocket for the endgame. Hmmm the Marines have a hell of a shock and awe strategy.. not sure your statement is 100% accurate.
Tip of the spear baby. That's what we do best. Hoorah
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:14:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone.
I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets.....
The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they.
And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for.
I usually respect your posts but not this thread.
You may not be trying to insult any member of US armed forces but I can assure you that you indeed are doing just that.
And since when is trying to survive and win a conflict about "engaging another entity with the same technological level as they."
That is, and I am being polite, an ignorant statement.
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."
-Robert E. Lee
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Zirzo Valcyn
Gunners Acadamy
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:26:00 -
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complaining about races over the internet,
sounds legit
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.05.27 23:34:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I usually respect your posts but not this thread. You may not be trying to insult any member of US armed forces but I can assure you that you indeed are doing just that. And since when is trying to survive and win a conflict about "engaging another entity with the same technological level as they." That is, and I am being polite, an ignorant statement.
For the most part however it is true. However I will stand corrected in terms of modern history if you can cite and example.
Since WW2 America has been at the forefront of the development of military technology....its budget for such things is astronomical.
But since the Second World War..... America has primarily seen conflict in Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq. In this time the efforts have mainly been considered Police Actions, Peacekeeping, and Region Stabilising.
I am only saying the technologically countries like Russia, China, European Nations, and America have been unmatched able to mobilise massive amount of man power, vehicle assets, etc.
What enemy in these modern conflicts have been able to match that level of technology? Few if any.
I do not see how I am insulting any members of the military other than stating a view. All soldiers are brave, braver than I think I could be doing what they do, and what they do more often than not is a combinations of what they feel is right....but that's not for me to comment on.
All I can comment on is what the outer appearance of these things express to me.
In this case let us take the Korean War. American forces deployed the latest in their arsenal of technologies, new automatic weaponry, heavy use of helicopters for scouting, attacking, and medical scenarios alongside mobile and stocked hospitals with the latest medical practices and technologies.
This against the North Koreans who were at the time not half so well equipped as the united nations forces.
I feel we are getting back off topic. However reasonably if you expect a great deal of respect to be shown to the American militaries both past and present then the same standards should be applied to all soldiers who served their counties.
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:06:00 -
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Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride.
The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more.
I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings?
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."
-Robert E. Lee
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LT Shanx
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:31:00 -
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I play Domination a lot and I've had my fair share of squadding up with corps such as EveCorporation and SAIUKI, and what I noticed is that they don't really try hard at all.
I know enough Japanese to have basic conversation and from my times squadding with these players, I can say that they are very lax. Unlike Brits and Americans, the Japanese are quiet and easy going. They don't scream over comms and are generally not overly excited.
All they seem to do is put defend orders on squad members and they somehow all act accordingly and move as one. It's funny because many of the games I've played with them, some would have just gotten off of work and would be eating while playing while others would be silently drunk and doing rather well in the background.
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Jacques Cayton II
Pradox One Proficiency V.
802
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I'm baffled at your ignorance. I've trained with many other nations and fought beside them(didn't wanna pull out my deployment hoopla), but I have yet to see a military as well trained as America. Minus the Polish, they are some bad muthertruckers. And I love how ANA put shiny stickers on their weapons it makes them look and dare I say it fabulous. And regarding your post since when has any country won a war without making some new innovative technology. And sorry I love my country it's young it doesn't have a culture that can date back to the early years of man we like to show our power and if you don't like it then do something about if not sit back and watch me get drunk at some American football game
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Jacques Cayton II
Pradox One Proficiency V.
802
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:40:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride.
The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more.
I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? This guy gets it
We fight for the future of the State not our
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:41:00 -
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LT Shanx wrote:I play Domination a lot and I've had my fair share of squadding up with corps such as EveCorporation and SAIUKI, and what I noticed is that they don't really try hard at all.
I know enough Japanese to have basic conversation and from my times squadding with these players, I can say that they are very lax. Unlike Brits and Americans, the Japanese are quiet and easy going. They don't scream over comms and are generally not overly excited.
All they seem to do is put defend orders on squad members and they somehow all act accordingly and move as one. It's funny because many of the games I've played with them, some would have just gotten off of work and would be eating while playing while others would be silently drunk and doing rather well in the background.
I wish I could do that...... but I only really come onto Dust to chat with my squad mates......
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:50:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride.
The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more.
I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? This guy gets it
Not to be ridiculed at all.
The British Empire lost several engagements again vastly less developed militarise.
Roakes Drift, Waikato Wars.
It is nothing to be ridiculed over. My intial point was that the Americans came late to the second world war, they had time before they formally declared to speed up the industrial machines, and were not subject to crippling attacks to their infrastructure like Britain was.
The American did fundamentally alter the balance of the war but they did not win it, no one nation did. That was my original point, following up on that was that the American military deserved no more or less respect that any other military as a result of the Second World War. All nations committed men to the war effiort, all have victories and losses, and all soldiers sacrificed themselves for the same goal.
To tout an "American victory" of this conflict I felt was ignorant so I commented.
Then when Jaques stated that the American Tank Company defeated an Iraqi Battalion I also commented stating that the equipment and training a group has significantly affects its performance. It is not surprising that a nation with a significantly more developed military would beat that of a less developed military.
But of course history points out that even with superior technological advancements such a force can still be beaten so the entire matter is a moot point I suppose.
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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Doctor Day
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:59:00 -
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Man idk.....Shouldn't the japanse be watching anime jacking off to it?
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Jacques Cayton II
Pradox One Proficiency V.
802
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:Every tribe, clan, city state, kingdom, empire, or nation has always fought with the best technology that they could bring to battle at the time. Part of being a great power is having superior technology. It should be a source of pride.
The United States, as well as every other sovereign that has ever existed, fought to protect it's interests with every bit of ingenuity and tech it could muster. By your argument that is something to be ridiculed and I could not disagree more.
I also run my best gear whenever I can in DUST for the same reasons btw, because one plays the game to win, does he not? Or should I dumb it down so I don't hurt anyone's feelings? This guy gets it Not to be ridiculed at all. The British Empire lost several engagements again vastly less developed militarise. Roakes Drift, Waikato Wars. It is nothing to be ridiculed over. My intial point was that the Americans came late to the second world war, they had time before they formally declared to speed up the industrial machines, and were not subject to crippling attacks to their infrastructure like Britain was. The American did fundamentally alter the balance of the war but they did not win it, no one nation did. That was my original point, following up on that was that the American military deserved no more or less respect that any other military as a result of the Second World War. All nations committed men to the war effiort, all have victories and losses, and all soldiers sacrificed themselves for the same goal. To tout an "American victory" of this conflict I felt was ignorant so I commented. Then when Jaques stated that the American Tank Company defeated an Iraqi Battalion I also commented stating that the equipment and training a group has significantly affects its performance. It is not surprising that a nation with a significantly more developed military would beat that of a less developed military. But of course history points out that even with superior technological advancements such a force can still be beaten so the entire matter is a moot point I suppose. Let me school you real quick. Iraq at the time just got done with a war with Iran. Now Mr ******* whom had the 9th largest military in the world at that time decided I want Kuwait. Then American tanks destroyed I forget like 200 to 300 tanks with only a battalion and we only lost 1 Bradley with 2 causality e's. Are tanks were well trained yes, they had tech yes, what they didn't have. Defensive fortifications, infantry, and most importantly battle experience. We caught the Iraqi military by surprise because they thought we wouldn't come that way. Why you might ask because it's a desert with no landmarks which means no mapping. That's where gps comes in and then we kicked their ass. It's funny how something as simple as gps can destroy an entire military.
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Izlare Lenix
Last VenDetta.
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Posted - 2014.05.28 01:00:00 -
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It had been suggested by many experts that dropping the A-bombs saved roughly 4 million lives. This includeds Japanese military and civilians and of course American and allied military.
The Japanese would have fought to the death for every inch of Japan. The suffering and causilties would have been horrendous for the Japanese people and who knows how much longer that war would have lasted.
I would also like to point out there were many cities during WWII that were conventionally bombed resulting in total destrction and tens of thousands of lives lost. So what difference does it make if one bomb destroys a city of a few thousand bombs?
The Japanese were also guilty of many atrocities and mass murders while trying to expand their empire. Hell the Naking Massacar alone was genocide and the Japanese military murderd well over 300,000 Chinese.
So yes the US dropping the bomb was horrible and many Japanese died, however, we did it to end a terrible war not to expand our territory.
Lastly, both Germany and Japan were working on their own nuclear projects. The world should be thankful we beat them to it, otherwise things could have gone much different and the ***** and Japanese Empire could be ruling the world right now.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10311
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Posted - 2014.05.28 01:03:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I'm baffled at your ignorance. I've trained with many other nations and fought beside them(didn't wanna pull out my deployment hoopla), but I have yet to see a military as well trained as America. Minus the Polish, they are some bad muthertruckers. And I love how ANA put shiny stickers on their weapons it makes them look and dare I say it fabulous. And regarding your post since when has any country won a war without making some new innovative technology. And sorry I love my country it's young it doesn't have a culture that can date back to the early years of man we like to show our power and if you don't like it then do something about it if not sit back and watch me get drunk at some American football game
Why are you personally attacking me. As I have said I cannot comment on the current status of the American military however I can drawn from historical circumstances.....and originally this...I suppose its a flame war of sorts now originated from a comment stating that
Eruditus 920 wrote:
"Americans pushovers"?
Speak for yourself, *****.
We won a war that was thrust upon us once upon a time.
This was the cause of my first post. No SINGLE Nation won the Second WORLD War. All nations contributed how they could best at the time.
As for your original comment I commented mainly because of sort of arrogance in your post that I suppose provoked me more than anything. I suppose to take pride in something is wonderful but to forget that, and all nations and peoples have done it, that mistakes were made does not do justice to those who were made victims by those mistakes.
I don't think I ever openly criticised the American military or the people in it, if anything I have praised military personnel as I think what they do for their country is something that they should be proud of. Nor have I said that they should be looked down upon because of their technological supremacy, only suggested that it is an aspect that affects the outcome of battle....else why continue to develop?
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.05.28 01:30:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Just goes to show you push America to hard and it will bite back 10x harder. After all in Kuwait a company of American tanks took out a battalion of Iraqi tanks. No fighting force on earth can stand to America, not China nor Russia. That is fact, but together they could never alone. I doubt the Iraqi tanks had half the training the American Tank operators had, nor the same technological level of vehicle assets..... The American force have taken as many losses throughout their history as victories. Not trying insult any member of the American armed forces who may be on these forums but historically while America is a huge powerhouse of military might they have rarely ever engaged another entity with the same technological level as they. And even perhaps in "Victory" the campaigns were less than successful in implementation. A great deal of arrogance ruled the American Military hierarchy post WW2 which the soldier suffered for. I'm baffled at your ignorance. I've trained with many other nations and fought beside them(didn't wanna pull out my deployment hoopla), but I have yet to see a military as well trained as America. Minus the Polish, they are some bad muthertruckers. And I love how ANA put shiny stickers on their weapons it makes them look and dare I say it fabulous. And regarding your post since when has any country won a war without making some new innovative technology. And sorry I love my country it's young it doesn't have a culture that can date back to the early years of man we like to show our power and if you don't like it then do something about it if not sit back and watch me get drunk at some American football game
Soldiers from New Zealand , especially the Maori Battalions were considered some of the most elite and fearsome soldiers of the second world war.
Currently I don't feel qualified to compare the soldiers from modern armies, nor do I intend to.
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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501st Headstrong
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.28 02:00:00 -
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Everyone is awesome. Everyone has committed an atrocity sometime in history. Debating over who did what is a matter of perspective, one that will and can be debated forever. True Adamance, you are absolutely right. Americans died right alongside British, Canadians. Japanese killed themselves to defend their families and honor. Remember the Anzacs.
These things have happened. Honor the courage of all the people who did what they did because they wanted to/thought it was right, and work towards making sure it never happens again. I don't ever want to have to kill any of you in real life, look you in the eyes. Hopefully you feel the same. But we both will if our beliefs are strong.
Respect to all you in the armed forces, respect to True Adamance for expressing and defending his views. Now let us stop this, and make the time we have left with Dust all the more fun
Goodnight all
From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.- 501st Headstrong.
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APOPHIS Xxx
Global Elite Killers
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Posted - 2014.05.28 02:05:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:I crush all japs under my boots just like my pap did in WWII. Murica!!!!!
Your paps was in the rear with the gear like yourself you scrub. I'll be looking for you on the battlefield and we'll see what you can do to this half Jap.
Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!
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