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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:03:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Dampening and cloaking go hand in hand because if you are scanned while you are cloaked PEOPLE CAN STILL SEE YOU. This completely negates the point of the cloak. Then fit a dampener. Problem fixed. Oh, one less armor plate for you? Too bad. No offense intended. The point I'm making is that being both invisible to scanners and hard to see should take two modules. One equipment and one low slot. We're basically just increasing the fitting requirements for full stealth mode. As it stands it's just too easy to have a 4 module tank and let your second equipment slot do all the stealth-work. This will be reduced to a 3 module tank, a dampener and a cloak. If you think cloaking worthless after the change you may also fit a dampener and ignore the cloak. Valid playstyle. I used to play like that until 1.8 was released. One could argue that there should maybe be an active equipment item that let's you be profile dampened temporarily. But that should be something for the midterm future.
I play Minmatar scout.
If I am passively scanned, or scanned by a Quantum scanner following these changes I will switch suits for the rest of the match as I will be completely useless.
I will need 2 damps to avoid Gal logi proto scans (non-focused) and non-Cal scouts with 2 precision mods.
I will need 3 damps to avoid Cal scouts with 2 precision mods.
It will be impossible to avoid more precise scans.
A proto min scout only has 3 low slots.
To capitalize on my suit bonus I need codebreakers. To capitalize on my race's main attribute I need a Kin-cat. To preform recon for my team well I need range amps.
Do you see the problem? |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The EWAR system needs a rework to have a healthy dynamic - (snip) This way you're incentivised to fit both damps and precision enhancers and even if you can be picked up at some point both will always have a use.
Like maybe having a piece of equipment the reduces your profile low enough to avoid scans, but only when active? I wonder what we should call it?.........
I do prefer your idea though.
Let me be frank about the whole situation. I am not one for QQ.
I am willing to try the proposed EWAR situation with my min scout.
Maybe the current scanner nerfs will prevent perma-active-scan. Maybe I can live with being scanned by Cal scouts and just operate where they aren't around (~40-70m scan radius). I can swap my dampener for a range amp (same fitting) as it will no longer help me.
If it does end up being total **** however, please CCP, either change it back, or do something like buff profile damps to -40% profile or something (number off the top of my head). |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: In pubs the minscout is usable. But then, so is everything - I use a plasma cannon and ion pistol combo in pubs, sometimes. That doesn't mean they're balanced. I'd very much like to see as many dropsuits and fits as possible being viable on a competitive tier, and the Minscout simply won't be under these conditions.
Don't get me wrong, I still think the dampening change is a bad idea, as I have said many times, for weeks.
I'm just acknowledging that we won't know exactly how things will pan out until we try it.
I'm not too hopeful though. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:00:00 -
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Just realised CCP intend on fixing scouts and scanning meta at a future date.
I hope this will only be a short rough patch.
edit: By rough patch, I mean my main suit and play-style being potentially nerfed into the ground. Lets hope that is too dramatic a statement. |
Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:37:00 -
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Can I just say that I approve of the reduction of/removal of the scan range bonus for Gal scouts.
It never seemed fair considering the powerful dampening bonus and didn't match with the flavour of the suit.
Caldari are the passive scan specialists, Galente are stealth specialists. I like it.
I don't feel as hard done by choosing Min scout. Looking forward to seeing how to changes pan out. |
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