PC is like the worst thing ever.

If you can't afford it, don't use it.
Or buy it.

The reason proto stomping works is when squads go up against poorer players. I am poor, I have epic proto fits that can distaste the enemy and shrink their morale but I can't afford to lose a single suit or I will not profit. There fore I run ADV and when I find out that now Im getting wooped I switch to STD and the wooping gets harder I go starter. This is how they win, since we cannot run proto, they will always have the upper hand stomping my team. Now PROTO V PROTO is a fair fight but that also means isk vs isk and isk is what most of the proto stommped people don't have.

yeah, all you rich scrubs like you don't want the poor to have fun.

You really wouldn't have to worry about any of this if you had a SP refund or just and infantry one , then you can go full racial and or really customize your @$$ off ... I know you said you had extra SP's and all ... but you could actually make you SP's help make ISK's for you by prioritizing and actually getting the most production for your SP's because it's the SP's that make isk's then you would mind the cost so much because you would have SP's in place where YOU feel they are the most effective and not trapped in some void that you have to find a use for .

SP's locked into useless items and materials for roles that aren't useful because of changes to performance bonuses , hence role value to the individual ... that's really loosing money for the mercenary .

You can't afford to have things in skilled on your person if they have no useful value to the person .

The cost issue is relatively minor. As I said, I can maintain 5KDR in advanced (and that was mostly playing solo). 95%+ of players cannot. And a lot of the best players (better than me) run standard/advanced most the time in pubs and still beast.

I used to think SP was a major if not the main differentiator, but we now have players with 30mil+ SP, enough for two maxed roles, complaining about getting repeatedly stomped, even if they're in squads with other high SP players. So I don't think that's a massive consideration either. In fact a corpmate ran a lot of games recently on a 500k SP alt with a standard scout, no cloak, and twin SMGs, think he was around a 3.5KDR doing that.

So now I think that Player Skill=Organization>SP>Gear. Take gear out of the equation and pubstomping would be virtually the same.

I have proto minmitar scout with proto CR with PRO 4, I got proto Caldari scout with complex range and precision amps with PRo RR with pro 3 . I got lows of SP in shields and Core skills. 25 mil sp spent right, problem is that one death to a militia heavy with HMG sets me back 160k isk. Which is almost 3/4s of what I will earn that match.

Like I said ... I must be speaking for myself .


What are you complaining for then , you have what you want and can't get the outcome that your looking for ???

Maybe you should pick and choose more carefully which match that you care to run proto in then , that way your making a wise business decision .. given the fact that you might not care to do this because you figure that you shouldn't have to ... and your keeping money on top of making money .

Your not taking such a risk and increasing your own value ... your changes would help those who you feel have a advantage , to have a greater advantage as well so the best thing that you can do is just become wiser in your choices .

Edit : Hell at least your at a place where price is the only thing that's making this adventure uncomfortable .
At least you have all of this going for you and have a SP surplus .
Also not be burdened by useless SP sinks .

I'm the one that's really broke , SP's and ISK's .

Take gear out of the equation and pubstomping would be virtually the same.

PROTO is only meant for PC farmers and that's my problem.