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CCP Rattati wrote:

Ok, scouts, please come back to me on this problem, exactly as I word it.

Here is the premise

1) I want to encourage stealth players to go to proto cloak
2) GA scout will be the only scout that is completely unscannable
3) Not let GA scouts be the only stealth scouts and use cloaks

So, I have been told, I can verify when I am back at work, that if we change the cloak to be at 10% dampening instead of 5% at PRO, at least 3 stealth scouts are viable with cloak, GA, CA and MM. I think that's fine, I don't think everyone should be equally good at everthing. Amarr will get a look soon.

Max scan precision from CA scout is 17 (if my math is correct), terribly close to 16.

Since I want the only thing to beat the 100% dedicated scout scanner to be a 100% dedicated stealth scout.

A triple complex dampened, GA scout with a cloak at the new 10% level is at 13.5 or 14 dB.

That means we can reduce the GA Scout bonus to 15% from 25% and still stay under the CA scout at 15.3 or 16dB.

Thereby forcing the dedicate GA scout to sacrifice a low in most cases, so that he can't spend it on armor.

For the coup de grace, we can reduce the range of the CA passive scan a little bit because it's unnecessarily good.

Please respond to this in a civil manner, we are actively trying to listen and adapt our proposals based on your feedback.

I am King of Kish, Lagash, Umma, Uruk, overlord of Sumer, Elam, Mari, and Yarmuti


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Tamori Orn Nos Nothi 34	Posted - 2014.05.24 22:19:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Ok, scouts, please come back to me on this problem, exactly as I word it. Here is the premise 1) I want to encourage stealth players to go to proto cloak 2) GA scout will be the only scout that is completely unscannable 3) Not let GA scouts be the only stealth scouts and use cloaks So, I have been told, I can verify when I am back at work, that if we change the cloak to be at 10% dampening instead of 5% at PRO, at least 3 stealth scouts are viable with cloak, GA, CA and MM. I think that's fine, I don't think everyone should be equally good at everthing. Amarr will get a look soon. Max scan precision from CA scout is 17 (if my math is correct), terribly close to 16. Since I want the only thing to beat the 100% dedicated scout scanner to be a 100% dedicated stealth scout. A triple complex dampened, GA scout with a cloak at the new 10% level is at 13.5 or 14 dB. That means we can reduce the GA Scout bonus to 15% from 25% and still stay under the CA scout at 15.3 or 16dB. Thereby forcing the dedicate GA scout to sacrifice a low in most cases, so that he can't spend it on armor. For the coup de grace, we can reduce the range of the CA passive scan a little bit because it's unnecessarily good. Please respond to this in a civil manner, we are actively trying to listen and adapt our proposals based on your feedback. This looks promising, and I (and many others I am sure) appreciate you listening to feedback and iterating on this. For those of us who have been scouts since the beginning, we want to not be FOTM anymore, but have spent enough time buried in near obscurity prior to that. I have to do the math on fitting the proto cloak, as to date that it is the only reason I haven't skilled into it. The scaling of the damp bonus makes sense, but it may be worthwhile to consider making it good enough for AM and MM scouts unscannable with the cloak as it is -temporary-. If I am reading your post right, the GA is only unscannable by the best scanners while cloaked (so temporarily) now. If I get a chance I'll run some numbers to have a more complete proposal. Makes sense to make the damp the ultimate winner due to shared property of scans... and for the damp-win ability to be cloak based because it is temporary. It gives a good back and forth feel for 1) Upping the e-war strength of fits based on opponents e-war strength (escalation) and 2) Serious cloakers coming in and out of TACnet for prepared scanning squads. Again, thank you for the iteration and community involvement with this process. I am the "Great King" of the Semites. I am King of Kish, Lagash, Umma, Uruk, overlord of Sumer, Elam, Mari, and Yarmuti
Tamori Orn Nos Nothi 36	Posted - 2014.05.25 17:01:00 - [2] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Ares 514 wrote: I hate having the suit you skill into get changed so much. Wish I was cal scout now like the majority of PC scouts I see. Rofl, didn't you see? 50% of scout use if gal. Being unscannable with only 1 low slot > all. 50% Gal scouts, but you never actually see them. They stay under the radar! (ba-dum-tish) I'll show myself out. I am the "Great King" of the Semites. I am King of Kish, Lagash, Umma, Uruk, overlord of Sumer, Elam, Mari, and Yarmuti