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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 07:29:00 -
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As already stated, the problem isn't directly with the Gallente it's the Amarr/Minmatar scouts.
Both, in a competitive environment will need dampeners. For Amarr they loose a lot of tank/speed. Min will loose on their speed/hackspeed.
Gallente gets a free complex dampener plus the skill bonus. They also get a free enhanced armor repair meaning they get even more free low slots for speed/tank/damps/range.
Trying to get under Caldari/Gallente passive scans have pretty much gotten me to give up. It's not even worth trying to run dampeners because your suit is either setup to see me cloaked or it's not.
EWAR is broken beyond repair without making massive changes. There needs to be scan degradation over range and some sort of threshold whether scans should be shared. If I'm 1 DB over your it shouldn't be shared. If I'm 10 then go ahead. If I'm 2 DB over your passives and 50 meters away you should not see me through three walls.
I'd almost prefer all shared scans be only line of sight based.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 07:43:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Wanted to quoted this because I disagree, to an extent. If a Caldari Scout is fitting that many precision enhancers, he's making a severe sacrifice in order to be able to find those targets - thereby, he's a specialist with a high risk/reward playstyle.
It doesn't matter if you only have 200 shields if you can see every threat within 50-75 meters of you.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 07:57:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I don't see a problem with it. Easily killed and the information only applies to him (no shared TacNet). Deal with the problem if it's a problem 
The information applies to their entire squad and it's all dependent on the situation. In most cases I don't have too much trouble with Caldari scouts on their own since they're generally terrible(musthavwallh4x). The real problem ensues when he has 5 friends in his squad, usually all lol400armorand9metersprintGallente scouts.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 08:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Video evidence or it didn't happen, just saying - information YOU personally see on your minimap -does not get shared on TacNet- and it is, I'd call foul because it completely circumvents the benefit of the Active Scanner.
All passive scans are shared for your squad unless you're out of render distance of the person doing the passive scanning(~400 meters).
It's how it's always worked, passive scanning was just far too weak in the past. Try running with a Caldari scout some time in your squad, you'll be like:
Quote:Oh hey it's a cloaked scout that doesn't know I can see him.
Over and over and over again.
There's a reason why any good PC team pretty much begs for a Caldari scout in every squad.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:40:00 -
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RedPencil wrote:
-5% plate stack pen per lv
25% is nothing on what will be already small numbers.
I've said it before, there is no bonus you can give the Amarr scout to make it better than Gallente.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
815
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Posted - 2014.05.24 05:26:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Zatara, if it's that difficult to stay hidden they simply won't do it. They will instead fit plates. It homogenizes the battlefield when things get to difficult to counter.
I have to agree here. Currently I will not fit damps. The sacrafice in HP/Speed/scan range/Recoverability is too high for Amarr. Why be invisible if I only have 212 armor, no reps, no range and no CPU?
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
815
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Posted - 2014.05.24 05:29:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
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Hi, your proposals sounds fine, but you have to understand two slots isn't much for a suit that gets two free low slot modules worth of bonuses/innate suit properties.
This "sacrafice" is what the other scouts already have to do with their low slots if they want to avoid scans of any kind and be self sufficient.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.24 05:36:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:
Amarr gets a meaningful bonus that plays to their strenghts (light assault) as they will be able to view all medium and heavy suits, but are unable to stack precision to find scouts.
This is completely untrue.
The Amarr can passive scan Min/Amarr/Cal cloaked and undamped currently with one advanced precision enhancer. The suit would be nice as an EWAR suit but it doesn't have the CPU.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.24 05:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
I am fine if we reduce the two free slots to one, at least to begin with.
So removing the innate 3 hp/s?
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.24 06:53:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
I want my cal SCOUT unscanable
As if no then im biomassing
Only having 1 role is booring
My cal SCOUT
Will be an underpowered SCOUT, so it's not a scout but a scanner that can never be used for stealth because ccp wants to make useless for a SCOUT.
Inb4 gal scout spam.
You don't understand do you? If you went into the Caldari scout thinking you'd be unscannable then that's your fault. If you really think every single scout should be able to be unscannable then go do us a favor and go biomass.
Let me just put this TheD1CK wrote:
Many valid points here, I don't care for buff threads... I'm not claiming Amarr in general are whiners
Thats all four races, and players in general wanting EZ mode... the forums tend to be waves of HEY!!CCP!!BUFF ME!!!!
The biggest part of giving feedback is not being biased.Zatara, Moody and a fair amount of other players who play DUST at a competitive level want everything to be useable in competitive environment.
You have no idea how much of a drag it is to play PC every day. Against the same 3-4 corps. All using the same 3-4 suits. If everything was usable in a competitive environment we wouldn't see this. We'd have variety and along with that much more fun. This is why so many people loved 1.8 despite the many broken things that came along with it. We saw so much more variety on the field. So please, when you think about giving feedback in the future, forget about every single thing you're specced into it helps a lot.
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THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.24 07:11:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Um yes cal should be unscanable when maxed with all damps
The whole point of specing scout is to avoid scans
Otherwise I want my respec so I can bet the overpowered scout since scouts are meant to be scanned. Unless you dump millions more sp
*Sigh* A scout isn't necessarily about never being seen and if you're seen by a scout than so be it, you likely see him. I'm done replying to you as you completely skipped over any meaningful part of my post in order to find the one thing you can form the slightest opinion about.
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