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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.22 11:43:00 -
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Please don't replace the dampening bonus with something like a cloak duration bonus.
The cloaks have such a long duration that such a bonus would be useless. With a proto cloak I have yet to encounter the situation in which I need more cloak time, even when I'm sitting cloaked for hugely extended periods of time.
I don't see the dampening bonus as being the problem so much as I see the absolute EWAR system. If you're damped enough to evade something, you evade it completely. If not, regardless of whether the precision is vastly better than your profile or -just over- you're lit up perfectly.
Also, squad vision. Squad scan vision is what makes dampening so crucial - if a Calscout stacks precision enhancers and picks you up their entire squad can see you.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.22 22:16:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:
the problem with this thought is that after this change everyone should just run gal scout, why run a hack fit min scout when you'll get picked up before you CAN hack? why run a cal when the gal will scan for the same range with a bit less precision but who cares the cal scout will get detected where the gal is invisible and wouldn't pick up the gal scouts everyone swapped to anyway to counter the cal.
This is the logical step.
The only way you're getting picked up though is if someone is using a precision stacked Calscout.
I find it interesting how that's apparently a given in all of these theoretical scenarios.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:57:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
The only way you're getting picked up though is if someone is using a precision stacked Calscout.
I find it interesting how that's apparently a given in all of these theoretical scenarios.
Welcome to PC. Why risk playing on a suit when you know the enemy will have a cal scout anyway. You can anticipate and adapt, or find yourself being mowed down by heavies stacking kin kats rushing you, seemingly aware of your every move. This isn't a hypothetical. This is current PC meta. Each side brings cal scouts just to keep the enemy team honest and gal scouts do everything. The next logical meta evolution is the same evolution that happened when logi's started stacking damps. it's beginning to be where scouts are simply used to achieve the logi's job in all things BUT repping.
Yeah, sure, that's the current meta.
But how has the meta developed?
It's because those Calscouts that can scan everything exist. The Gallente scout is the only counter to that. As a result, the Galscout is the most prevalent non-scanning scout simply because it's the only one that can survive those conditions.
If you remove the dampening bonus from the Galscout, what becomes the dominant scout meta in PC?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.24 10:58:00 -
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The 3 HP/s on the Galscout is a nice flavour thing but it's not really necessary or effective.
The scan range bonus seems unnecessary if the Galscout is to be the 'stealth' scout rather than the scanning scout.
It might alleviate concerns about the Galscout being able to scan and be unscannable if the scan range bonus were to go.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.24 13:17:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Also, what's your angle Zatara?
You're parlaying an isolated OP item (bricked GalScout) into a nerf package for all Scouts. Next, we'll buff Assaults. Then Scouts will be wholly non competitive. Again.
Why?
Nerf package for all scouts?
Are you referring to the cloak duration or something else?
If it's the cloak duration, it really is unnecessarily long.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.24 15:41:00 -
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BlazeXYZ wrote:
Who would sacrifice their whole effing high slot just for precision enhancers. A piece of one equipment doesn't need that much of a sacrifice. Gallente logi still wins.
A lot of people in the competitive environment equip full racks of precision enhancers all the time.
I'm not really sure why the Gallogi is even considered relevant in an EWAR discussion. The focused active scanner is so generally bad compared to an always on 360 Calscout scan that it's stupid to use one.
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