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Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 724	Posted - 2014.05.19 03:31:00 - [1] - Quote I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know)

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 4875	Posted - 2014.05.19 03:35:00 - [2] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Anthany sandifer The2nd 5	Posted - 2014.05.19 03:41:00 - [3] - Quote Ccp.........u guys really think ur doing the right thing not puting new content in dust.....but work on legion huh, u guys could have did so much more https://dust514.com/recruit/nHtblj/ i go there
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 725	Posted - 2014.05.19 03:46:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Thank you for the information Saber. Honestly i appreciate it. That does however really make me scratch my head at whats going on. I might be very wrong on this also but if legion and Dust are both using Unreal 3 why not continue active development of Dust until Dust has more of the things players really want. This is speculation on my part but if the 2 platforms are using the same engine won't a great deal of it be the same from 1 platform to the other?
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 187	Posted - 2014.05.19 03:49:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah really. What company shoots down their present product two years before they can even hope to have a new one? I call CONSPIRACY. It'd be best to admit to the conspiracy too CCP because then you'd actually have an excuse people might forgive you for. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Tallen Ellecon 1964	Posted - 2014.05.19 03:55:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. You're a prototype!
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 369	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:03:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Soooo instead of providing for a already existing community, you diside to ditch it and start over just because you think the PC is better, (it kinda is) even though the ps3 version could have been worked with a lot more. It's not even in alpha, so no profit for the dust team for 3 years.... RED LIGHT! Why should CCP get a chance to start over?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1901	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:07:00 - [8] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Thank you for the information Saber. Honestly i appreciate it. That does however really make me scratch my head at whats going on. I might be very wrong on this also but if legion and Dust are both using Unreal 3 why not continue active development of Dust until Dust has more of the things players really want. This is speculation on my part but if the 2 platforms are using the same engine won't a great deal of it be the same from 1 platform to the other? Looked like Legion was on the Carbon engine. at least for the demo we got at FF, and the style and appearance in relation to EVE. I Believe alot of CCP's hesitation is Sony. Sony has alot invested into this project aswell but they are fast building a reputation for being a huge supporter of smaller game developing studios. There is no Way Sony would let Legion exist without trying to get a piece of it. So it's really up in the air on the resources that will even be available to develop the legion project. CCP hurt their own product, their own revenue stream and their own reputation with the way and timing in which information was given to the public. NDA exist to strategically keep and give information for the benefit of IP's and Profit margins.. It Really is questionable at best in which the way the information was relayed. CCP would of been better just leaking information artificially then this even.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 726	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:12:00 - [9] - Quote Also lets keep this civilized mostly so the thread does not get locked and deleted. These actions are very umm.... Curious to me as to why CCP has done things the way they have been done. To me the better approach would have been continued active development of dust and then once the REAL limits of the console have been reached then porting over to PC and continued development there with less emphasis on console but primarily the bugs and balance would be worked out already. Development of dust would primarily focus on optimization for the PS3. Again just my thoughts on it. Not that they matter.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 726	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:14:00 - [10] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Thurak1 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Thank you for the information Saber. Honestly i appreciate it. That does however really make me scratch my head at whats going on. I might be very wrong on this also but if legion and Dust are both using Unreal 3 why not continue active development of Dust until Dust has more of the things players really want. This is speculation on my part but if the 2 platforms are using the same engine won't a great deal of it be the same from 1 platform to the other? Looked like Legion was on the Carbon engine. at least for the demo we got at FF, and the style and appearance in relation to EVE. I Believe alot of CCP's hesitation is Sony. Sony has alot invested into this project aswell but they are fast building a reputation for being a huge supporter of smaller game developing studios. There is no Way Sony would let Legion exist without trying to get a piece of it. So it's really up in the air on the resources that will even be available to develop the legion project. CCP hurt their own product, their own revenue stream and their own reputation with the way and timing in which information was given to the public. NDA exist to strategically keep and give information for the benefit of IP's and Profit margins.. It Really is questionable at best in which the way the information was relayed. CCP would of been better just leaking information artificially then this even. I am pretty sure the CCP devs have said that legion is using UE3 (not even 4 because they are SO good with UE3 )

Syeven Reed G0DS AM0NG MEN 684	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:29:00 - [11] - Quote How is a project meant to be green lit if they don't put any work behind it? Twitter MajLagSpike CPM Application
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1901	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:32:00 - [12] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Bethhy wrote: Thurak1 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Thank you for the information Saber. Honestly i appreciate it. That does however really make me scratch my head at whats going on. I might be very wrong on this also but if legion and Dust are both using Unreal 3 why not continue active development of Dust until Dust has more of the things players really want. This is speculation on my part but if the 2 platforms are using the same engine won't a great deal of it be the same from 1 platform to the other? Looked like Legion was on the Carbon engine. at least for the demo we got at FF, and the style and appearance in relation to EVE. I Believe alot of CCP's hesitation is Sony. Sony has alot invested into this project aswell but they are fast building a reputation for being a huge supporter of smaller game developing studios. There is no Way Sony would let Legion exist without trying to get a piece of it. So it's really up in the air on the resources that will even be available to develop the legion project. CCP hurt their own product, their own revenue stream and their own reputation with the way and timing in which information was given to the public. NDA exist to strategically keep and give information for the benefit of IP's and Profit margins.. It Really is questionable at best in which the way the information was relayed. CCP would of been better just leaking information artificially then this even. I am pretty sure the CCP devs have said that legion is using UE3 (not even 4 because they are SO good with UE3 ) Why would they want to give 25% of all revenues earned to Epic Games because their dev's have learned a couple tricks on the DUST project? With potentially years of developing in the future and an in house superior graphic quality engine sitting on their shelf?
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 726	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:35:00 - [13] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: How is a project meant to be green lit if they don't put any work behind it? I didn't say they couldn't use any resources on it. However they pulled so many resources from dust to legion that dust is now in a bug fix and balance mode. Which means they pulled most of the resources from Dust to work on something that may never even reach beta. Also like i said since its going to use the same engine why not develop dust further and then port it over?
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 726	Posted - 2014.05.19 04:39:00 - [14] - Quote Quote: Why would they want to give 25% of all revenues earned to Epic Games because their dev's have learned a couple tricks on the DUST project? With potentially years of developing in the future and an in house superior graphic quality engine sitting on their shelf? No idea but i will leave this here https://twitter.com/ccp_praetorian/status/463512406803488768 and for your conveyance i will re-type the post: Atli Mar GÇÅ@CCP_Praetorian #dust514 Just to clarify - the Project Legion prototype runs on our same heavily upgraded UE3!
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 62	Posted - 2014.05.19 05:10:00 - [15] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Quote: Why would they want to give 25% of all revenues earned to Epic Games because their dev's have learned a couple tricks on the DUST project? With potentially years of developing in the future and an in house superior graphic quality engine sitting on their shelf? No idea but i will leave this here https://twitter.com/ccp_praetorian/status/463512406803488768 and for your conveyance i will re-type the post: Atli Mar GÇÅ@CCP_Praetorian #dust514 Just to clarify - the Project Legion prototype runs on our same heavily upgraded UE3! I believe licensing costs for the UE4 were made to be discounted recently with a changed licensing scheme announced in March and, given the direction they wanted in so far as delivering updates and content, it's still a curiosity as to why they still didn't choose UE4 [since game content, updating and patching seems a bit more crucial in Dust and probably more so in Legion than EvE]. Regardless some of Sony's appeal for indie developers has to do with changes made in the past few years that saw Sony shuffle some of its executives and explore the Xbox360's history including it's enticing of developers. One of Sony's indie titles, Journey, were voted one of the top games and its profitability only added to validate their willingness to continue this trend. With how it's been approaching the PS4 it's still surprising how everything with Legion has been the quinessential debalce: bad publicity and start and if their developing it with a mindset of what "Dust" should be, then they're also somewhat guilty of trying to release a new game built of another and welcoming new problems beyond bug fixes and coding errors. It's like with Legion you're bundled with the same problems Dust has that aren't coding based, introducing it to Legion and whatever changes it will have and then releasing a game. When you look at it that way, it doesn't sound appetizing of a game. If anything, not having announced Legion at all would've been the best action for CCP; haven't they been told that silence is bliss? For just trying to have something to show at Fanfest however was a pretty costly mistake and even if Sony continues to offer the advertising and support of Dust it's still a high barrier of entry game to play. There's just too many issues with Dust that we've all discussed over and over and I can't remember a game that has ever been met with so much animosity before it even hit Beta. At least you can say bit triple-A's like SW:TOR, LoTR & ESO titles are kind of sufferring a bit from their big expectations but are still pretty good quality games.
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3080	Posted - 2014.05.19 05:14:00 - [16] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Thurak1 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Thank you for the information Saber. Honestly i appreciate it. That does however really make me scratch my head at whats going on. I might be very wrong on this also but if legion and Dust are both using Unreal 3 why not continue active development of Dust until Dust has more of the things players really want. This is speculation on my part but if the 2 platforms are using the same engine won't a great deal of it be the same from 1 platform to the other? Looked like Legion was on the Carbon engine. at least for the demo we got at FF, and the style and appearance in relation to EVE. I Believe alot of CCP's hesitation is Sony. Sony has alot invested into this project aswell but they are fast building a reputation for being a huge supporter of smaller game developing studios. There is no Way Sony would let Legion exist without trying to get a piece of it. So it's really up in the air on the resources that will even be available to develop the legion project. CCP hurt their own product, their own revenue stream and their own reputation with the way and timing in which information was given to the public. NDA exist to strategically keep and give information for the benefit of IP's and Profit margins.. It Really is questionable at best in which the way the information was relayed. CCP would of been better just leaking information artificially then this even. It Just goes to show you how far the CCP Corporation has got away from Hilmar's Managing capabilities. The Fact that there is little Cohesive planning amoungst the entire of CCP even before an Event like Fanfest is troubling as a CCP fan myself. There is no way Market peoples, Accountant's, Community Reps(Like Saberwing), Developers and many other CCP employee's passionate about the IP would of agreed to just actively ruin a revenue stream like that. Legion runs on Unreal Engine 3. The same engine that dust uses. CCP gave up creating a engine from the scratch cause its too much work so they took the shortcut instead.
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 671	Posted - 2014.05.19 05:23:00 - [17] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: How is a project meant to be green lit if they don't put any work behind it? I didn't say they couldn't use any resources on it. However they pulled so many resources from dust to legion that dust is now in a bug fix and balance mode. Which means they pulled most of the resources from Dust to work on something that may never even reach beta. Also like i said since its going to use the same engine why not develop dust further and then port it over? Because using the same engine doesn't necessarily mean that porting assets from one platform to another is inherently easy, especially if they (as they've implied) are building the base code of the game from the ground up. They've alluded a lot about how the new foundation allows them a lot more freedom in tweaking different aspects that the original run of Dust never allowed them to do. And to get Dust to that point would probably imply taking the game down and rebuilding it to that same dramatic degree, at that point you're better off taking the game off the dead end platform to begin with. Legion is what you get when you throw your hands up, cut your losses, and try something in a completely new direction. It may never get greenlit but the dev team and CCP Rouge in particular obviously believe it's the path they're going to want to take to expand the game to the point where it lives up to its pedigree.
Ceadda Sai Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 74	Posted - 2014.05.19 06:54:00 - [18] - Quote Agreed. It does seem CCP is putting the cart before the horses. Forge Gunners: Now this is a gun for going out and and making people miserable with.
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 81	Posted - 2014.05.19 07:05:00 - [19] - Quote I wonder when sony will claim that legion is a rip off of dust :). Fully sick Anaboop trading card

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 4880	Posted - 2014.05.19 07:30:00 - [20] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. You're a prototype! Whoa, whoa...let's not throw around anything we can't take back. Re: UE3 vs UE4 - CCP Android explained this away a little bit. Check out his post here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2144118#post2144118 Super delicious and informative! CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian


Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4223	Posted - 2014.05.19 07:42:00 - [21] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Thurak1 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. Thank you for the information Saber. Honestly i appreciate it. That does however really make me scratch my head at whats going on. I might be very wrong on this also but if legion and Dust are both using Unreal 3 why not continue active development of Dust until Dust has more of the things players really want. This is speculation on my part but if the 2 platforms are using the same engine won't a great deal of it be the same from 1 platform to the other? Looked like Legion was on the Carbon engine. at least for the demo we got at FF, and the style and appearance in relation to EVE. I Believe alot of CCP's hesitation is Sony. Sony has alot invested into this project aswell but they are fast building a reputation for being a huge supporter of smaller game developing studios. There is no Way Sony would let Legion exist without trying to get a piece of it. So it's really up in the air on the resources that will even be available to develop the legion project. CCP hurt their own product, their own revenue stream and their own reputation with the way and timing in which information was given to the public. NDA exist to strategically keep and give information for the benefit of IP's and Profit margins.. It Really is questionable at best in which the way the information was relayed. CCP would of been better just leaking information artificially then this even. It Just goes to show you how far the CCP Corporation has got away from Hilmar's Managing capabilities. The Fact that there is little Cohesive planning amoungst the entire of CCP even before an Event like Fanfest is troubling as a CCP fan myself. There is no way Market peoples, Accountant's, Community Reps(Like Saberwing), Developers and many other CCP employee's passionate about the IP would of agreed to just actively ruin a revenue stream like that. It was not on carbon. It was on the same exact engine as Dust, simply with hardware that could actually support it.
pegasis prime PROTO WOLVES 1713	Posted - 2014.05.19 08:00:00 - [22] - Quote Yip so much for CCP's 10 year road map for dust on the consol market. I hope their 10 year plan included receiving dog **** in the mail for the next 8 weeks. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Scheherazade VII SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 529	Posted - 2014.05.19 10:25:00 - [23] - Quote why are we being fed such vague speculations surrounding the fact that the game may even NEVER reach ALPHA stage? Why are they doing this to us? Sorry guys your game is cancelled HOWEVER we're creating project legion on the PC, here's a tech demo BUT it's not even in alpha, it's pre-alpha, it may not turn into a beta, it may not happen, it hasn't been greenlit, WTF? are we supposed to invest into either game? are they both being abandoned? make it sound like you're working on something CCP, come on, **** or get off the pot! Permanent Beta Tester \|\| MAG Vet, SVER Scrub For Life
sabre prime The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 261	Posted - 2014.05.19 10:53:00 - [24] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: ...it's not even in alpha, it's pre-alpha, it may not turn into a beta, it may not happen, it hasn't been greenlit... The reason it's all so confusing is that this bit of messaging from CCP is almost a lie. Legion will be greenlit. Why would they use the Dust 514 keynote to show a "prototype" for a different game on a different platform that may or may not be greenlit? Wake up everyone, and don't be so naive. Desperate attempt to get BPOs
Your Absolut End Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 554	Posted - 2014.05.19 11:56:00 - [25] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: ...it's not even in alpha, it's pre-alpha, it may not turn into a beta, it may not happen, it hasn't been greenlit... The reason it's all so confusing is that this bit of messaging from CCP is almost a lie. Legion will be greenlit. Why would they use the Dust 514 keynote to show a "prototype" for a different game on a different platform that may or may not be greenlit? Wake up everyone, and don't be so naive. I'd even go further than this. Look at the LIVE played presentation of Legion: Did that actually looks like an alpha? Could you see alot of alpha-typical errors likes glitches and bugs rspecially in the graphics sector? We all can play alot of alpha versions daily on steam, and I havent seen a single one which looks so complete as that version of Legion does. IF it srriously would be in alpha stage I would have expected to se a pre rendered trailer, not a live played version. Besides that Legion and Dust share the same engine (UE3) and Legion is going to be on PC, which is much easier codable than the PS3,so I expect you can port nearly 100% of what we see in Dust right now and switch it to legion quiet simple. on top of all this they have already been in development process for 8 months, and just what they officially stated. Think about a team of around 20 devs working FULLTIME on Dust, and getting payed for a fulltime job, now think about what we got with Dust in the last year, that makes me kind of suspicious. All in all I would say Legion is already much further developed than CCP openly admittes. Its all speculation and I dont have experience in developing a game, but all the stated above makes me really suspicious if CCP isn't once more keeping stuff from us.
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1088	Posted - 2014.05.19 13:11:00 - [26] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Look at the LIVE played presentation of Legion: Did that actually looks like an alpha? Reskin of an existing map. Reuse of existing art assets. Low player count. Yes, it looks like a prototype. 6 months to design one tree is a milestone that CCP should be very proud of. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Spike Slania Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 76	Posted - 2014.05.19 14:25:00 - [27] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Look at the LIVE played presentation of Legion: Did that actually looks like an alpha? Reskin of an existing map. Reuse of existing art assets. Low player count. Yes, it looks like a prototype. 6 months to design one tree is a milestone that CCP should be very proud of. Hey! They also designed a tree that is on fire! I can't wait to see you again and again
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.05.19 14:26:00 - [28] - Quote Anthany sandifer The2nd wrote: Ccp.........u guys really think ur doing the right thing not puting new content in dust.....but work on legion huh, u guys could have did so much more Hey adam sandler.... did you mass your main? Haven't seen you in a while....
Orenji Jiji 451	Posted - 2014.05.19 14:28:00 - [29] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: It was not on carbon. It was on the same exact engine as Dust, simply with hardware that could actually support it. With only minor tearing! Yay CCP! I liked this game.
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 260	Posted - 2014.05.19 22:30:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Thurak1 wrote: I find it funny that project legion has not been given the go ahead or green lighted yet CCP already has no problem diverting resources away from Dust and putting Dust into a bug fix / balance mode. So it makes me wonder just how much is CCP lying to us about all this? It seems foolish to me to stop efforts on a game that is in production to work on a game that is in closed beta (legion is in CB right? I honestly dont know) Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment. You're a prototype! Whoa, whoa...let's not throw around anything we can't take back. Re: UE3 vs UE4 - CCP Android explained this away a little bit. Check out his post here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2144118#post2144118 Super delicious and informative! Like the way ccp can't take back the legion eve fanfest keynote ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhghhhgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I got u there son. (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.



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