Not in Closed Beta, it's not even in Alpha yet. It's a prototype at the moment.

Looked like Legion was on the Carbon engine. at least for the demo we got at FF, and the style and appearance in relation to EVE.

I Believe alot of CCP's hesitation is Sony. Sony has alot invested into this project aswell but they are fast building a reputation for being a huge supporter of smaller game developing studios. There is no Way Sony would let Legion exist without trying to get a piece of it. So it's really up in the air on the resources that will even be available to develop the legion project.


CCP hurt their own product, their own revenue stream and their own reputation with the way and timing in which information was given to the public. NDA exist to strategically keep and give information for the benefit of IP's and Profit margins.. It Really is questionable at best in which the way the information was relayed.

CCP would of been better just leaking information artificially then this even.

How is a project meant to be green lit if they don't put any work behind it?

Why would they want to give 25% of all revenues earned to Epic Games because their dev's have learned a couple tricks on the DUST project? With potentially years of developing in the future and an in house superior graphic quality engine sitting on their shelf?

I'd even go further than this.

Look at the LIVE played presentation of Legion:
Did that actually looks like an alpha? Could you see alot of alpha-typical errors likes glitches and bugs rspecially in the graphics sector?
We all can play alot of alpha versions daily on steam, and I havent seen a single one which looks so complete as that version of Legion does.
IF it srriously would be in alpha stage I would have expected to se a pre rendered trailer, not a live played version.

Besides that Legion and Dust share the same engine (UE3) and Legion is going to be on PC, which is much easier codable than the PS3,so I expect you can port nearly 100% of what we see in Dust right now and switch it to legion quiet simple.

on top of all this they have already been in development process for 8 months, and just what they officially stated.

Think about a team of around 20 devs working FULLTIME on Dust, and getting payed for a fulltime job, now think about what we got with Dust in the last year, that makes me kind of suspicious.

All in all I would say Legion is already much further developed than CCP openly admittes.

Its all speculation and I dont have experience in developing a game, but all the stated above makes me really suspicious if CCP isn't once more keeping stuff from us.

Look, I hate it as much as anyone but let's look at some thoughts.

Legion is in prototype stage, and looks better then dust. It only took them what, 3-5 months to create that much content? Clearly they are having an easier time with it then they do with dust.

They are using the UE3 engine for the sole purpose of salvaging the best code from dust (imo) , and using the statistics gained from dust at their disposal to eliminate balancing factors at conception. So this will speed things along exponentially, possibly shaving multiple months off development.

At this point with the rate of development legion has had, I see very few obstacles that would prevent it from being greenlit. It's dust, but better in every way, with the ability to transcend dust in every way.

CCP still want ts to milk Dust for all its worth cause hey, who wouldn't want to? It's a product with a playerbase that can help then aid in the cost of developing legion, hence the server side updates only. They don't want to deviate money to dust when they birthed a new favorite son, cause let's face it...updating a game through Sony isn't cheap. It's relatively expensive as hell.

So, Legion WILL get greenlit, it IS a better upgraded version of dust, the devs no longer can profit from the aur market by continuing to develop dust alongside legion and are therefore culling Dust's progress, and CCP is unable to publicly admit Dust's inevitable future because it will guarantee less profits for them to funnel to Legion. So they will continue to spin the issue until it becomes moot point.

While distasteful, especially the way they handled it at fanfest, they are still a business and will make decisions for the benefit of of their company over the consumer. And if they create a complete success with Legion, it will easily overshadow what happened with Dust, and CCP is willing to go "all in" on this bet.

This will be my last post at these forums.

As a ps3 and 4 player I really can't even express how disappointed I am at CCP.

The way they handle and look at the ps3(4) community at fan fest makes me more sad than anything. I really wanted CCP to make this game a epic console game.

How they have handled the console players are so disrespect full that's it's not even funny.

And al the posts on the forums about how inferior the ps3 are against PC, also slandering the ps4 in some cases makes me just shake my head. ( this not buy CCP might I ad )

CCP don't make me feel special or wanted, I just feel like trash in there eyes.

CCP have a look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kJkiwDeWqQ

This has nothing about to do about that game or if it will be a successes or not.

It's about how he communicates it's so respectful and humble to the players, it's just a master pice plain and simple. I know it's some what of a pitch, but still I think you get it.

This alone makes me want to spend money on his product and vision.

This CCP is how you interact with your players/fans.

I still want you to be a successes however I am not going to follow you on this journey.

I might jump back on the train on a station further down the line if you make me believe again.

Good luck and my sincere best wishes with legion.

Regards

And these kind of people still dare to post on forums not even checking their facts first :D Ignorance is bliss I guess.

The only way to get Legion greenlit is to work on it. The only way to work on it is to pull devs from Dust. Simple enough, right?

I want to know more about the free account limitations. It will be like the World of Warcraft free account?.

If it will be syncing with the same servers of EvE and it will have the same features and problems of Dust514 then why named like a different game?. When Dark souls came to PC was still called Dark Souls..