A cloak can last 80 seconds and for those 80 seconds you get a 25% profile dampening bonus? First of all you're already a scout so its not hard to get to 28db but now you're also getting an extra 25%. A maxed gal logi can scan 21 db with a 12 sec visibility. If you're a gal scout when you use your cloak with maxed skills your around 18 db. You can't be picked up with active scans or passive and you havent fit a single profile dampener. What the heck is going on here gal scouts or any scout with enough dampening are invisible on the radar passively or actively. If you decide to use scanners you'll have to spam the scanner almost the entire match to pick up an uncloaked scout which is pretty rare. The dampening bonus while clocked should be removed.

Scouts now have 35 base dB

1 Complex Damp puts a normal scout at 24 dB. The cloak helps push scouts past that into the 18 dB range. This isn't bad, as you have to fit both an equip slot and low slot to be stealthy.

The real problem is the Gal scouts amazing suit abilities and passives.

It gets that damp we mentioned for free, and it also gets an enhanced repper for free. It now has 4 low slots it can use to do whatever it wants.

If it decides to throw on a damp, it is UNSCANNABLE while damped.

Throw on a Complex Speed, 2x Complex Plates, 1x Complex Shield and 1x Complex Precision.

You now have 619 eHP on a scout, with passive rep to armor. You are impossible to scan while cloaked, you sprint at 8.14 (Faster than most assaults with similar eHP) and can scan anyone who isn't proto damped within a ~40m radius.

I can also use a proto shotty, proto SMG and an advanced cloak and still have about 40 CPU and 15PG to burn through.

Gal Scout does whatever the hell it wants to. Head and shoulders above the other scouts.

I will say that my Dragonfly scout suit is now actually a better assault than my Dragonfly assault....

It has faster speed, better all round scanning ability and dampening inbuilt, it has the same EHP as my Dragonfly assault using the same militia mods (More armour on my scout as opposed to shields on my assault) and it has a 2nd equipment slot.

Cloaking is a gimmick. I dont think it is terribly useful unless you want that extra dampening to be honest but thats just my opinion.

Im also testing 3 advanced precision enhancers on a m 1 suit scouts are walking up behind me and killing me. Standing directly behind me.

Could work out the math on a spreadsheet. Save yourself some Isk.

I was in a match with 13ear on domination he guys 55/7 with a shotgun scout gimmick I think not. Im also testing 3 advanced precision enhancers on a m 1 suit scouts are walking up behind me and killing me. Standing directly behind me.

First off, every medium suit I run has at least 1 complex damp on it. I have a double cplx damp Min scout I use often along with the cloak to stay as far off of tacnet radar as possible.

Personally, I do think that there is some OP to it. That being said, I think there is OP to the Cal scout. It takes two modules in order to meet it's passive scan and range ability. Gal scout and Min Scout have a passive bonus that can be supplemented with only one module.

In addition I run 3 complex Precision Enhancers on my Logi so heavies in my squad can see whatever I can see but some still slip in ofcourse.

Looking into it with a few devs; hopefully something comes out of it.

Why dont you just get rid of an equipment slot, a scout should have to make a choice whether he wants to be cloaked or use re`s or whatever.

A cloak can last 80 seconds and for those 80 seconds you get a 25% profile dampening bonus? First of all you're already a scout so its not hard to get to 28db but now you're also getting an extra 25%. A maxed gal logi can scan 21 db with a 12 sec visibility. If you're a gal scout when you use your cloak with maxed skills your around 18 db. You can't be picked up with active scans or passive and you havent fit a single profile dampener. What the heck is going on here gal scouts or any scout with enough dampening are invisible on the radar passively or actively. If you decide to use scanners you'll have to spam the scanner almost the entire match to pick up an uncloaked scout which is pretty rare. The dampening bonus while clocked should be removed.

In addition I run 3 complex Precision Enhancers on my Logi so heavies in my squad can see whatever I can see but some still slip in ofcourse.

Dumb question but I thought they got rid of squad vision.

Is it back? Or just for logis?


Munch

I see no problem. At first scouts were catching me off guard at every turn. Now I'm keen to what is going on. I see that blue shimmer move. Or that still picture that can only be explained by how you can see dark matter in the universe.

I'm against nerfing the cloaking device. Cause really, without it, a scout is still going to wreck you if you're not watching your six and/or blobbing.

Let's not nerf the cloaks. Lessen the damage just a bit on the CRs. That's the only problem I see that is the most glaring.

We're aware that the CR needs to be toned down a bit (not nerfed into the ground though) and that the AR could use a little bit of love. They're both on out to do list to look at.

OP,

Are we still (circa March 25) crying about cloaks??

Get a girlfriend or better yet quit.

You got your tinker wet and some hair on your chest now you think that makes you a man. Dont need a gf I have a wife. Basic math isnt crying its pointing out the obvious.

You couldn't be more off in your assessment. You don't know me and be god damned glad you don't.

Ooooo you can dish it but can't take it. You sound like chump and once a chump always a chump.

What grown man says"oooooo"? Is your wife typing this for you?

The dampening bonus while clocked should be removed.