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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:30:00 -
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I also have a ps4.
It cost -ú450. I then got bf4 for -ú39.99, you then have to buy premium which was -ú59.99 IF you really want the other 60% of the multiplayer experience which of course, I got.
I got resogun which was -ú12.99-15.99. It boasted some graphical amazement but it was a re hashed side scroll space ship shooter.............
I got ff14, -ú39.99 or -ú29.99+ sub, unsubscribed within half hour. Not actually a massive open world, people split by region and limited to 60 per server with no multiplayer. Why the hell that game is online is beyond me.
Of course down the line there will be other games, each costing around -ú49.99.
Not only that but later iterations of the same mind numbingly boring tedious sht. All of that I spent I consider wasted. Console games really don't have much depth or longevity so to the guys who are moaning about having to buy a PC and stating they are going ps4, actually think about how badly milked you get on console.
Not only that but a PC can do far more than a console. You also do not have to play like you are at a desk. Keyboard on lap with mouse on a mat next to the leg on the couch. Rather than paying around -ú450+ every now and then, it would cost just a bit for an upgrade.
Now let's look at the actual milking list over a period of 18 ish years I have consciously been gaming, from a wee ladlad to the horrible cnt I am today lady's and gentlemen.
PC GAMING
3 PCs owned, generally got most games for free (yeeargh for life ye scurvy swine). Even paying though, PC games are not that much and really are really really actually polished usually folks!, really!. I'd say I paid for roughly 10 games.
CONSOLE GAMING
*TIME WARP* SNES, Sega, Nintendo 64,Dreamcast, ps1, ps2, Xbox,ps3 and ps4. I could not count all the games iv bought or even factored in the gameboy and gameboy colour and sequels etc of games.
In the long run, with consoles you end up paying more for stuff that lasts half the time if that on every level and eventually you end up chucking it all away or it ends up chucked away. Not only that but it always has and always will be years behind.
When do you think we'll see a 32 GB of RAM console?, how much will that cost YOU when the PC guy spent -ú100 for an upgrade?.
Tldr: Get a PC, consoles will always be behind and milk you for triple as much.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Callidus Vanus
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
300
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:32:00 -
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No.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
42
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:35:00 -
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Denial is expected.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Scheherazade VII
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
464
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:38:00 -
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he's right you know, my gaming PC from 2011 cost me -ú860, it will do just fine at running Watch Dogs.
I've probably spent a couple thousand in that time on console games. That's mainly old school collecting but still,
PCs are cheaper, if you pirate? Is that the message we're giving here?
No. You buy a PC to always play games in stunning high quality at 60 frames per second in 1080p resolution,
I barely play my PS3 now, as soon as I saw the glory of PC I didn't want to go back, I would clean my shiny PC
whilst the peasant that is the console gathered dust. Until ironically DUST came along and then I played it quite a bit.
TL;DR, PCs are glorious, I use a DS3 controller, wirelessly if I choose, and games are 1000x times better than on console,
consoles have exclusives, that's about it!
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:40:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:he's right you know, my gaming PC from 2011 cost me -ú860, it will do just fine at running Watch Dogs.
I've probably spent a couple thousand in that time on console games. That's mainly old school collecting but still,
PCs are cheaper, if you pirate? Is that the message we're giving here?
No. You buy a PC to always play games in stunning high quality at 60 frames per second in 1080p resolution,
I barely play my PS3 now, as soon as I saw the glory of PC I didn't want to go back, I would clean my shiny PC
whilst the peasant that is the console gathered dust. Until ironically DUST came along and then I played it quite a bit.
TL;DR, PCs are glorious, I use a DS3 controller, wirelessly if I choose, and games are 1000x times better than on console,
consoles have exclusives, that's about it!
No, pirate bay did that for you and splendidly.
RIP pirate bay.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4548
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:41:00 -
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I come home from work. I get changed. Put my dinner on. I turn on my Playstation & sit on my sofa.
That's why I don't want to buy a f*cking PC.
Now can you all stop using this as an excuse not to be upset about what CCP did?
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:43:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:he's right you know, my gaming PC from 2011 cost me -ú860, it will do just fine at running Watch Dogs.
I've probably spent a couple thousand in that time on console games. That's mainly old school collecting but still,
PCs are cheaper, if you pirate? Is that the message we're giving here?
No. You buy a PC to always play games in stunning high quality at 60 frames per second in 1080p resolution,
I barely play my PS3 now, as soon as I saw the glory of PC I didn't want to go back, I would clean my shiny PC
whilst the peasant that is the console gathered dust. Until ironically DUST came along and then I played it quite a bit.
TL;DR, PCs are glorious, I use a DS3 controller, wirelessly if I choose, and games are 1000x times better than on console,
consoles have exclusives, that's about it!
People also forget that you can do what you want with a PC, customise it, aim bots, hacks if your a scumbag. Use a variety of controllers, different operating systems to suit the user etc.
I do not condone aim bots and stuff, I was just pointing that out to the glitchers and exploiters.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:44:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I come home from work. I get changed. Put my dinner on. I turn on my Playstation & sit on my sofa.
That's why I don't want to buy a f*cking PC.
Now can you all stop using this as an excuse not to be upset about what CCP did?
You didn't even read it, don't be so early 90's. I do the same thing.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
946
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:47:00 -
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Next can we go to a maternity ward to talk people into having kids?
Or let's all go to a mental hospital to sell people on the idea of ***** as face paint.
Some people just don't like PC gaming. I've played tons of PC games throughout my illustrious gaming career. I'm playing though Shadowrun Returns right now. I just prefer console gaming.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1775
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:49:00 -
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I find it funny that you would so openly say "PC has a huge advantage because you can pirate the games easier!" That is like saying "the neighbor to the right has a better car than the neighbor to the left because he keeps the keys in the ignition so I can drive without having to hotwire it."
A console and a PC are just platforms. It is the game company's that will screw you as fast and as hard as they can regardless of what platform that is. No matter the platforms, new games run the same price; about 60 dollar US. That isn't magically different just because it is a PC game or a console game. My family has always been a bunch of nerds so we have stayed in computers and console stuff for a long time. Having played with both all my life, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Plug in and play versus pure might and versatility.
It is nice being able to plug in my PS2 and play some Kingdom Hearts in about 5 minutes between pulling it out of the closet, setting it up, and turning it on. It is also nice being able to have things like EVE.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:52:00 -
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Hec's totally serious input on this:
If people could just stop being so goddamn poor and just buy a PS4 and a bleeding edge PC and all the hyped games I would be a happy man.
State your stance on EVE:Legion
t¢«_t¢«
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 10:58:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I find it funny that you would so openly say "PC has a huge advantage because you can pirate the games easier!" That is like saying "the neighbor to the right has a better car than the neighbor to the left because he keeps the keys in the ignition so I can drive without having to hotwire it."
A console and a PC are just platforms. It is the game company's that will screw you as fast and as hard as they can regardless of what platform that is. No matter the platforms, new games run the same price; about 60 dollar US. That isn't magically different just because it is a PC game or a console game. My family has always been a bunch of nerds so we have stayed in computers and console stuff for a long time. Having played with both all my life, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Plug in and play versus pure might and versatility.
It is nice being able to plug in my PS2 and play some Kingdom Hearts in about 5 minutes between pulling it out of the closet, setting it up, and turning it on. It is also nice being able to have things like EVE.
You don't know about pirate bay? The site that pirated stuff for you so you didn't have to?, removing liability from yourself?.
Newb gtfo.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:00:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Hec's totally serious input on this:
If people could just stop being so goddamn poor and just buy a PS4 and a bleeding edge PC and all the hyped games I would be a happy man.
This lol.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4550
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:00:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:I come home from work. I get changed. Put my dinner on. I turn on my Playstation & sit on my sofa.
That's why I don't want to buy a f*cking PC.
Now can you all stop using this as an excuse not to be upset about what CCP did? You didn't even read it, don't be so early 90's. I do the same thing.
The length of your post itself undermines that argument.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:01:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:Next can we go to a maternity ward to talk people into having kids?
Or let's all go to a mental hospital to sell people on the idea of ***** as face paint.
Some people just don't like PC gaming. I've played tons of PC games throughout my illustrious gaming career. I'm playing though Shadowrun Returns right now. I just prefer console gaming.
So you missed the whole milking bit?.
People are whining about the cost of a PC and I'm pointing out where it actually costs less.
10/10 for how you feel bro!
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
44
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:02:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:I come home from work. I get changed. Put my dinner on. I turn on my Playstation & sit on my sofa.
That's why I don't want to buy a f*cking PC.
Now can you all stop using this as an excuse not to be upset about what CCP did? You didn't even read it, don't be so early 90's. I do the same thing. The length of your post itself undermines that argument.
I made it nice and simple................
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1399
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:03:00 -
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I play most of my games on a five-year old $360 computer.
The problems I have encountered on it are minimal; it runs everything I need it to.
I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
45
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:17:00 -
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I'm just trying yo shed some light on what really happens. I'm sorry if my suggestive posting makes anyone feel like I'm telling them what to do.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Kratek Heshan
United Colonial Empire Army
Freek Alliance
47
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:30:00 -
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aurm sales will go down this coming months |
lrian Locust
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
442
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:49:00 -
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So basically you're saying that stealing games is cheaper than buying them?
At least I have my pride! |
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1517
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:06:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I come home from work. I get changed. Put my dinner on. I turn on my Playstation & sit on my sofa.
That's why I don't want to buy a f*cking PC.
Now can you all stop using this as an excuse not to be upset about what CCP did?
******* ditto
A laser rifle user for life
Long live the empress burn the heritics
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2854
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:21:00 -
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Don't know about you, but I play tons of new games a year for 50$ a year. PS+ is quite amazing compared to all the other services.
Also, last year I got a yearly ps+ at half its price.
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
45
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:26:00 -
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lrian Locust wrote:So basically you're saying that stealing games is cheaper than buying them?
At least I have my pride!
No, pirate bay did that for you. They had a whole database.
The top guy was a dude operating from a shack in Vietnam or something lol.
It was as simple as googling pirate bay lol.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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plaplapla
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
23
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:36:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:lrian Locust wrote:So basically you're saying that stealing games is cheaper than buying them?
At least I have my pride! No, pirate bay did that for you. They had a whole database. The top guy was a dude operating from a shack in Vietnam or something lol. It was as simple as googling pirate bay lol.
yes lets play stolen games
that way the game companys dont make any more money to make more game
PC master race bankrupting game companys yea your great for the gaming world |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
786
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:40:00 -
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Specialized consoles are far faster than "Jack of all trades" Computers. As processing speeds increase and specialized functions start becoming more potent than generic functions, I would not be surprised to see consoles excel in almost every field.
Currently the only benefit a PC has is it's Graphics card. Which is made for images on a flat monitor... So, what is going to happen in the future when 3D systems start cropping up? Computer graphics processors WILL hit a divide, with one set being faster at flat screen presentation, and another being faster at dual perspective presentation... etc etc... Same thing is happening with input methods. Currently the PC has the most precise input methods because of the mouse, but consoles are starting to gain gesture recognition. Pointing at the screen may become faster in the long run for adjustments than ol' clicky over there.
That's 2 regions that development is diverging. Where will a PC stand at the end of this? One of the largest selling points for computers, that keeps the desktop variant prices low, are businesses! If businesses keep the flat screens as a "Professional" look, but home systems start to verge with 3-D venues, you can bet that the Price of home computers may rise, but consoles may stay at about the same ratio, because they have to custom order their components anyway.
Even now, you can begin to see the difference between specialized performance and "Jack of All" but only at startup. For example, I have a game on a console, and I have a game on the PC. I turn both systems on at the same time, a few seconds later I've got my game for the Console, but the PC is still loading all the background hurdles... Then, about a minute later, the game starts up.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust, theme
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Marc Rime
386
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:43:00 -
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OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? |
Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
420
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:50:00 -
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Do
Not
Want.
That is all the reason I need, and the only explanation I will give. |
Maitue Mae
Vortex State Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:59:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Specialized consoles are far faster than "Jack of all trades" Computers. As processing speeds increase and specialized functions start becoming more potent than generic functions, I would not be surprised to see consoles excel in almost every field.
Currently the only benefit a PC has is it's Graphics card. Which is made for images on a flat monitor... So, what is going to happen in the future when 3D systems start cropping up? Computer graphics processors WILL hit a divide, with one set being faster at flat screen presentation, and another being faster at dual perspective presentation... etc etc... Same thing is happening with input methods. Currently the PC has the most precise input methods because of the mouse, but consoles are starting to gain gesture recognition. Pointing at the screen may become faster in the long run for adjustments than ol' clicky over there.
That's 2 regions that development is diverging. Where will a PC stand at the end of this? One of the largest selling points for computers, that keeps the desktop variant prices low, are businesses! If businesses keep the flat screens as a "Professional" look, but home systems start to verge with 3-D venues, you can bet that the Price of home computers may rise, but consoles may stay at about the same ratio, because they have to custom order their components anyway.
Even now, you can begin to see the difference between specialized performance and "Jack of All" but only at startup. For example, I have a game on a console, and I have a game on the PC. I turn both systems on at the same time, a few seconds later I've got my game for the Console, but the PC is still loading all the background hurdles... Then, about a minute later, the game starts up.
What? Using the computer platform isn't using a jack of all trades. You will be able to custimize EVERYTHING on your computer to whatever you want it to be. There is NO limitation. Well, there is. It's your intelligence.
MAG SVER Veteran.
Five Hundredth and Fourteenth Legion: The Dusters.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1776
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:00:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I find it funny that you would so openly say "PC has a huge advantage because you can pirate the games easier!" That is like saying "the neighbor to the right has a better car than the neighbor to the left because he keeps the keys in the ignition so I can drive without having to hotwire it."
A console and a PC are just platforms. It is the game company's that will screw you as fast and as hard as they can regardless of what platform that is. No matter the platforms, new games run the same price; about 60 dollar US. That isn't magically different just because it is a PC game or a console game. My family has always been a bunch of nerds so we have stayed in computers and console stuff for a long time. Having played with both all my life, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Plug in and play versus pure might and versatility.
It is nice being able to plug in my PS2 and play some Kingdom Hearts in about 5 minutes between pulling it out of the closet, setting it up, and turning it on. It is also nice being able to have things like EVE. You don't know about pirate bay? The site that pirated stuff for you so you didn't have to?, removing liability from yourself?. Newb gtfo.
Oh, I know what it is. I was simply remarking on the fact that you were using the ease of copyright infringement as an advantage of the PC.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Maitue Mae
Vortex State Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:00:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console?
Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet.
MAG SVER Veteran.
Five Hundredth and Fourteenth Legion: The Dusters.
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Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
255
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:23:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:I got resogun which was -ú12.99-15.99. It boasted some graphical amazement but it was a re hashed side scroll space ship shooter.............
I stopped reading here. 
Finally a bitter vet. Thanks CCP.
Dust 514 Private Beta
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emtbraincase
Falconpunch Hatesurfers
144
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:02:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet.
How about we HATE using a PC for FPS games? Strategy and RPG games are better IMO on PC, but I become an uncoordinated mess of uselessness when I FPS on PC with a kb/m. So I will NEVER want Dust/Legion/anything for a PC no matter how hard you try to convince me otherwise. I can attach a controller, but why when I like my console just fine, it's CCP who doesn't.
If you don't like spaghetti, would someone telling you that the you could make your spaghetti any way you want, while spending half as much as pizza (which you love) over time, would that be enough of a reason to eat spaghetti instead? No, because you don't like it. Cost/benefit analysis has more to do with this than you think. There is almost no cost reduction, or benefit you could mention, which would encourage me to play FPS games on PC (short of giving me a free gaming rig with the game I want, which I would accept and play for a day then start using the rig to do something other than playing FPS because I can't stand it).
Learn to read, we have been trying to tell people this, and they always turn it into a cost analysis, or financial aspects analysis, instead of what it really is.....WE HATE FPS GAMES ON PC. Your argument is invalid because cost, ability, graphics, etc mean nothing to us when we don't enjoy the experience. |
Maitue Mae
Vortex State Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:16:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet. How about we HATE using a PC for FPS games? Strategy and RPG games are better IMO on PC, but I become an uncoordinated mess of uselessness when I FPS on PC with a kb/m. So I will NEVER want Dust/Legion/anything for a PC no matter how hard you try to convince me otherwise. I can attach a controller, but why when I like my console just fine, it's CCP who doesn't. If you don't like spaghetti, would someone telling you that the you could make your spaghetti any way you want, while spending half as much as pizza (which you love) over time, would that be enough of a reason to eat spaghetti instead? No, because you don't like it. Cost/benefit analysis has more to do with this than you think. There is almost no cost reduction, or benefit you could mention, which would encourage me to play FPS games on PC (short of giving me a free gaming rig with the game I want, which I would accept and play for a day then start using the rig to do something other than playing FPS because I can't stand it). Learn to read, we have been trying to tell people this, and they always turn it into a cost analysis, or financial aspects analysis, instead of what it really is.....WE HATE FPS GAMES ON PC. Your argument is invalid because cost, ability, graphics, etc mean nothing to us when we don't enjoy the experience.
Case and point. Intellegence is the factor of getting fun out of using the computer. Do you know that there are game controllers for the computer? They don't even cost much. Also, I can't resist using your spaghetti example. Have you ever tried Pizza Pasta? It's spaghetti with pepperoni, mozzerela, and other stuff you'd put on a pizza.
MAG SVER Veteran.
Five Hundredth and Fourteenth Legion: The Dusters.
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emtbraincase
Falconpunch Hatesurfers
147
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:28:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:emtbraincase wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet. How about we HATE using a PC for FPS games? Strategy and RPG games are better IMO on PC, but I become an uncoordinated mess of uselessness when I FPS on PC with a kb/m. So I will NEVER want Dust/Legion/anything for a PC no matter how hard you try to convince me otherwise. I can attach a controller, but why when I like my console just fine, it's CCP who doesn't. If you don't like spaghetti, would someone telling you that the you could make your spaghetti any way you want, while spending half as much as pizza (which you love) over time, would that be enough of a reason to eat spaghetti instead? No, because you don't like it. Cost/benefit analysis has more to do with this than you think. There is almost no cost reduction, or benefit you could mention, which would encourage me to play FPS games on PC (short of giving me a free gaming rig with the game I want, which I would accept and play for a day then start using the rig to do something other than playing FPS because I can't stand it). Learn to read, we have been trying to tell people this, and they always turn it into a cost analysis, or financial aspects analysis, instead of what it really is.....WE HATE FPS GAMES ON PC. Your argument is invalid because cost, ability, graphics, etc mean nothing to us when we don't enjoy the experience. Case and point. Intellegence is the factor of getting fun out of using the computer. Do you know that there are game controllers for the computer? They don't even cost much. Also, I can't resist using your spaghetti example. Have you ever tried Pizza Pasta? It's spaghetti with pepperoni, mozzerela, and other stuff you'd put on a pizza.
LMAO @ u
We all OBVIOUSLY have computers/PC because we are on these forums. We get use/fun out of a computer, but not when used for FPS games. I've tried several controllers and they ALL have issues which make them inferior IN MY OWN EYES to a console controller. Likely lag/delays from older hardware causing noticeable issues, which means that my PC does EVERYTHING I WANT IT TOO. It doesn't run FPS games well, and it doesn't function as well (accuracy/lag/latency) with controllers as kb/m, but I don't ask it to do those things so a console controller functions better.
I already addressed the controller in my own post, but you apparently ignored it, so I did it just above in case it wasn't clear enough for your apparently greater intelligence.
Aaaaaand finally, it still has spaghetti in it. Spaghetti is the noodle, if you don't like noodles, there is nothing you could put on top that would change that fact. Learn to analogy. |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1069
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:35:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet.
I don't need another thing just for gaming... That's my reason. I have the money, if my expenditures as of late have proven anything ($300 worth of blu-rays that I have never even seen in the past week, for instance, which still confounds me). A PC would look out of place in my set-up, and running a controller versus KB/m is rather unfair, they'll have the advantage most of the time. I won't switch to KB/m as I use that **** everyday at work and want something different.
Lumping everyone together, god, now I remember why I hate gaming communities in general. (And, yes, I realize I lumped everyone together in that statement... I'm becoming one of you guys.)
Peace
I 'support' EVE:Legion. Since the PS4 is just a dream, make it easy to sell our characters and our Beta access...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:36:00 -
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plaplapla wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:lrian Locust wrote:So basically you're saying that stealing games is cheaper than buying them?
At least I have my pride! No, pirate bay did that for you. They had a whole database. The top guy was a dude operating from a shack in Vietnam or something lol. It was as simple as googling pirate bay lol. yes lets play stolen games that way the game companys dont make any more money to make more game PC master race bankrupting game companys yea your great for the gaming world
The money they get for milking you halfwits clearly pays off.
Now concerning the tears in this thread, you poor scrubbers.........
Please get a bucket and allow the tears to fall away from your faces directly into the bucket so as not to get any impure grease mixed with it.
Thank you.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Maitue Mae
Vortex State Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:37:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:emtbraincase wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet. How about we HATE using a PC for FPS games? Strategy and RPG games are better IMO on PC, but I become an uncoordinated mess of uselessness when I FPS on PC with a kb/m. So I will NEVER want Dust/Legion/anything for a PC no matter how hard you try to convince me otherwise. I can attach a controller, but why when I like my console just fine, it's CCP who doesn't. If you don't like spaghetti, would someone telling you that the you could make your spaghetti any way you want, while spending half as much as pizza (which you love) over time, would that be enough of a reason to eat spaghetti instead? No, because you don't like it. Cost/benefit analysis has more to do with this than you think. There is almost no cost reduction, or benefit you could mention, which would encourage me to play FPS games on PC (short of giving me a free gaming rig with the game I want, which I would accept and play for a day then start using the rig to do something other than playing FPS because I can't stand it). Learn to read, we have been trying to tell people this, and they always turn it into a cost analysis, or financial aspects analysis, instead of what it really is.....WE HATE FPS GAMES ON PC. Your argument is invalid because cost, ability, graphics, etc mean nothing to us when we don't enjoy the experience. Case and point. Intellegence is the factor of getting fun out of using the computer. Do you know that there are game controllers for the computer? They don't even cost much. Also, I can't resist using your spaghetti example. Have you ever tried Pizza Pasta? It's spaghetti with pepperoni, mozzerela, and other stuff you'd put on a pizza. LMAO @ u We all OBVIOUSLY have computers/PC because we are on these forums. We get use/fun out of a computer, but not when used for FPS games. I've tried several controllers and they ALL have issues which make them inferior IN MY OWN EYES to a console controller. Likely lag/delays from older hardware causing noticeable issues, which means that my PC does EVERYTHING I WANT IT TOO. It doesn't run FPS games well, and it doesn't function as well (accuracy/lag/latency) with controllers as kb/m, but I don't ask it to do those things so a console controller functions better. I already addressed the controller in my own post, but you apparently ignored it, so I did it just above in case it wasn't clear enough for your apparently greater intelligence. Aaaaaand finally, it still has spaghetti in it. Spaghetti is the noodle, if you don't like noodles, there is nothing you could put on top that would change that fact. Learn to analogy.
This is actualy quite fun. Flaming on the forums.
MAG SVER Veteran.
Five Hundredth and Fourteenth Legion: The Dusters.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:38:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:I got resogun which was -ú12.99-15.99. It boasted some graphical amazement but it was a re hashed side scroll space ship shooter............. I stopped reading here.
Willful ignorance, you fine typical specimen you. 
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:46:00 -
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A game worth playing is a game worth buying; The way marketing works with videogames (paying for positive press) I cant really fault people for sometimes downloading an "extended demo" or things they cant conveniently purchase (like Emulator ROM's), I dont even think people who genuinely cant afford to pay for games are "immoral" in any significant way because they pirate.
But factoring piracy in when talking about how affordable pc gaming is... Seriously Lame... Support videogame art, dont be a scrub, many good steam deals are like the cost of a pack of cigarettes or less.
Gaming is a very cheap hobby when you concider the hours upon hours of entertainment a single really good game can give people. |
Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:53:00 -
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The reason I really hate PC gaming is because when it comes to console games you can just go out and buy a game for the system and you KNOW that it will ******* work. On PC, I see a game that I really want, so I check the specs and think I might be able to run it only to find out that I need to upgrade something. Then, I might be able to run a game but then they update it and I have to upgrade to keep playing. It's horseshit. Way too frustrating, much more costly in the long run.
Also, I am willing to ritually sacrifice as many goats as it takes to make sure that Legion never takes off and ends up worse than Dust.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:55:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:The reason I really hate PC gaming is because when it comes to console games you can just go out and buy a game for the system and you KNOW that it will ******* work. On PC, I see a game that I really want, so I check the specs and think I might be able to run it only to find out that I need to upgrade something. Then, I might be able to run a game but then they update it and I have to upgrade to keep playing. It's horseshit. Way too frustrating, much more costly in the long run.
Incorrect, don't blame your own shortcomings on PC gaming.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
RoyaLBanKof
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:56:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet.
This.
Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:03:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:The reason I really hate PC gaming is because when it comes to console games you can just go out and buy a game for the system and you KNOW that it will ******* work. On PC, I see a game that I really want, so I check the specs and think I might be able to run it only to find out that I need to upgrade something. Then, I might be able to run a game but then they update it and I have to upgrade to keep playing. It's horseshit. Way too frustrating, much more costly in the long run. Incorrect, don't blame your own shortcomings on PC gaming.
I do blame it on PC gaming. I have better things to spend money on that constant upgrades to play games :P That's how that market is designed. It's a pit that just takes in money. Sure, it might be worth it because of the great **** you can run but I'm fine with console. I don't care about graphics at all, which is basically everyone's obsession. I just want to play an enjoyable game.
We're not going to have this childish debate of which is better. PC and console both have advantages and shortcomings. For me, console will always win.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:41:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:
What? Using the computer platform isn't using a jack of all trades. You will be able to custimize EVERYTHING (That means Jack of All Trades btw) on your computer to whatever you want it to be. There is NO limitation. Well, there is. It's your intelligence.
Your argument is so poorly based in the now, that you are unable to use any foresight, aren't you?
Reminds me of an argument regarding airplanes and trains, when airplanes first came out. People claimed that airplanes were inferior to trains, and would never become a mass transit system quite obviously because they were weak, capable of only holding one person at a time, and were relatively slow. Trains at that time were capable of going over 200 MPH, could carry tons upon tons of cargo, and hundreds of passengers.
As time passed, airplanes became more specialized and able to travel faster, and further. Now, most people use airplanes or cars to travel long distances, trains are still used, but mainly for cargo where time is not an issue, or in places where airplanes just don't make sense, such as a subway system within a city.
Basically, I'm asking you to actually look at things logically. You can emulate anything you want with a computer using current graphics systems etc, but if you try to use dual 3-D imaging, the system has a bit of a problem distributing the image, and it comes out far more choppy than a normal image (see Occulus Rift) If you had a chip that could render an image, then output the composite angles separately, while completely self-automated, you would get excellent stereoscopic output, but that same system would have problems trying to output to a 2-D screen.
Hence if you actually wanted the best of both worlds, you'd have to have TWO separate graphics cards in every computer.
Then You'd have to make individual cards for each new function that might come out, once they become refined.
To plug all those different cards and chips into one computer just to "have everything optimum" would make it incredibly clunky, they would probably have to double, if not triple the tower space just to get everything in there.
Or, they could take the route of slightly degraded performance in all functions, by having the chips inside just emulate the processes. The emulation would be slower, and never optimal. Extra CPU would be needed at all times to run what a native chip could do without CPU involvement.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust, theme
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Marc Rime
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:55:00 -
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Maitue Mae wrote:Marc Rime wrote:OP: Why do you assume that money (or lack of) is the reason other people prefer to play on a console? Because there is no reason not to buy a computer, unless the user has limited intelligence or wallet.
Funny you should mention limited intelligence. |
Dr Dammit
Sognariket Logistics
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Posted - 2014.05.10 16:04:00 -
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plaplapla wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:lrian Locust wrote:So basically you're saying that stealing games is cheaper than buying them?
At least I have my pride! No, pirate bay did that for you. They had a whole database. The top guy was a dude operating from a shack in Vietnam or something lol. It was as simple as googling pirate bay lol. yes lets play stolen games that way the game companys dont make any more money to make more game PC master race bankrupting game companys yea your great for the gaming world
The Bay of Criminal Sailors has it's own sections for Playstation and Xbox games. Pretty sure they're not legit. |
Maitue Mae
Vortex State Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.10 16:18:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Maitue Mae wrote:
What? Using the computer platform isn't using a jack of all trades. You will be able to custimize EVERYTHING (That means Jack of All Trades btw) on your computer to whatever you want it to be. There is NO limitation. Well, there is. It's your intelligence.
Your argument is so poorly based in the now, that you are unable to use any foresight, aren't you? Reminds me of an argument regarding airplanes and trains, when airplanes first came out. People claimed that airplanes were inferior to trains, and would never become a mass transit system quite obviously because they were weak, capable of only holding one person at a time, and were relatively slow. Trains at that time were capable of going over 200 MPH, could carry tons upon tons of cargo, and hundreds of passengers. As time passed, airplanes became more specialized and able to travel faster, and further. Now, most people use airplanes or cars to travel long distances, trains are still used, but mainly for cargo where time is not an issue, or in places where airplanes just don't make sense, such as a subway system within a city. Basically, I'm asking you to actually look at things logically. You can emulate anything you want with a computer using current graphics systems etc, but if you try to use dual 3-D imaging, the system has a bit of a problem distributing the image, and it comes out far more choppy than a normal image (see Occulus Rift) If you had a chip that could render an image, then output the composite angles separately, while completely self-automated, you would get excellent stereoscopic output, but that same system would have problems trying to output to a 2-D screen. Hence if you actually wanted the best of both worlds, you'd have to have TWO separate graphics cards in every computer. Then You'd have to make individual cards for each new function that might come out, once they become refined. To plug all those different cards and chips into one computer just to "have everything optimum" would make it incredibly clunky, they would probably have to double, if not triple the tower space just to get everything in there. Or, they could take the route of slightly degraded performance in all functions, by having the chips inside just emulate the processes. The emulation would be slower, and never optimal. Extra CPU would be needed at all times to run what a native chip could do without CPU involvement.
What I'm trying to point out is that they are not a Jack of all trades. They are a Master of all trades. If my computer will be that "Clunky", then it will be. I will be able to do what ever I want on it because it is a Computer, not a purpose built console.
MAG SVER Veteran.
Five Hundredth and Fourteenth Legion: The Dusters.
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lrian Locust
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:15:00 -
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For my designing and recording work I want a Mac with matte dual screens, ergonomically positioned on my disk, with stereo speakers.
For gaming I want hidden, always-ready, no-maintenance computer/console with wireless controllers and a big ass glossy screen in front of a comfy couch, with surround sound and a fridge nearby.
For me, working and a gaming computers are completely different. And I want to keep it that way. Game time is not office time. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:25:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:blah blah blah i have no taste in games blah blah random PC elisist garbage whine whine because I don't have any taste in games you all must feel the same way I do about those games groan moan even though I've mostly just played the worst of the ps4 line up I know that all ps4 stuff must suck ***** moan whine buy a PC
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
MAG Vet ~ Raven
R.I.P.~ Dust, R.I.P.~ MAG
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
991
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:30:00 -
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The only thing I was able to take from this thread is you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Ff14 limited to only 60 per server? You might wanna rethink that, considering there are thousands logged in at a time on the popular servers, and it's cross platform between ps3, ps4 and the PC.
I just can't get past that ignorance. |
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