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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:18:00 -
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Most games do not even do this. They are released in one, final, complete package that never gets updated or completely revamped like Dust's patches did.
To me it sounds like this is the only reason you invested time into this game. Why? It was never promised to you upon downloading it.
So you're telling me that you never want to be that OP Combat Rifle using brick tanked Scout you loved so much anymore, just because they're not updating the game anymore?
You got what you wanted. You earned skill points and you invested them. In fact the game is still running and you can still use your character the way you always intended to.
WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL? Do you invest your time and money into things with unrealistic expectations often? Sure sounds like you all do.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:21:00 -
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Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Flagged.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Flagged.
That's a load of bullshit and you know it. It's a logical question. It's for the purpose of discussion not anger and insult.
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Proto Annihilator
16 Vandals
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:25:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Most games do not even do this. They are released in one, final, complete package that never gets updated or completely revamped like Dust's patches did.
To me it sounds like this is the only reason you invested time into this game. Why? It was never promised to you upon downloading it.
So you're telling me that you never want to be that OP Combat Rifle using brick tanked Scout you loved so much anymore, just because they're not updating the game anymore?
You got what you wanted. You earned skill points and you invested them. In fact the game is still running and you can still use your character the way you always intended to.
WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL? Do you invest your time and money into things with unrealistic expectations often? Sure sounds like you all do.
Most games are developed by people who know what they are doing. The way i see it every minute spent in game is recouping a loss. We bet on a poor company and payed the price. Getting our moneys worth is the only interest a lot of us have with New Eden now. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:27:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote: Most games are developed by people who know what they are doing. The way i see it every minute spent in game is recouping a loss. We bet on a poor company and payed the price. Getting our moneys worth is the only interest a lot of us have with New Eden now.
but there is absolutely no plan for shutting down Dust, so you can still play it
are you mad that it's not going on PS4 yet? i hope you realize they still might do it
Yes, YOU had an unrealistic expectation and YOU paid the price for it.
Sign if you refuse to give up on the PS3 Dust
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:29:00 -
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bamboo x wrote: That's a load of bullshit and you know it. It's a logical question. It's for the purpose of discussion not anger and insult.
You and I both know what kind of responses your going to receive, and you and I both know that the actual purpose of this thread is to flame and anger players.
If that wasn't the case, you would have asked this question in the other 2 threads you've created, as opposed to creating yet another one. Don't forget, spamming is against the rules as well.
-HAND
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:bamboo x wrote: That's a load of bullshit and you know it. It's a logical question. It's for the purpose of discussion not anger and insult.
You and I both know what kind of responses your going to receive, and you and I both know that the actual purpose of this thread is to flame and anger players. If that wasn't the case, you would have asked this question in the other 2 threads you've created, as opposed to creating yet another one. Don't forget, spamming is against the rules as well. -HAND
You're wrong. This thread is another subject entirely, and its purpose is to ask you people "why?" Why do you think this way?
YOU are choosing to be angry. I am not forcing you to be, nor am I trying to make you angry.
Sign if you refuse to give up on the PS3 Dust
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SteelheadPep
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:34:00 -
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I will take the bait, it was the way CCP revealed their true intentions. Many of us had faith in their integrity,Sony gave CCP money to develop this game and after the money ran out ,CCP announced that they no longer have any use for the console player.The market is changing rapidly many companies are concentrating on app games that are cheap and easy to develop,PC and consoles are becoming even more of a niche area.Is it a good idea to alienate a large segment of your remaining market. There are plenty of games on console and PC to take the place of a company that snubs their customers. |
Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:35:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Most games do not even do this. They are released in one, final, complete package that never gets updated or completely revamped like Dust's patches did.
To me it sounds like this is the only reason you invested time into this game. Why? It was never promised to you upon downloading it.
So you're telling me that you never want to be that OP Combat Rifle using brick tanked Scout you loved so much anymore, just because they're not updating the game anymore?
You got what you wanted. You earned skill points and you invested them. In fact the game is still running and you can still use your character the way you always intended to.
WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL? Do you invest your time and money into things with unrealistic expectations often? Sure sounds like you all do.
Don't come here and make sense, you'll get told you are trolling...
DUST is an awesome game that can be played for free. Is it perfect? No, but neither is any game. Add to that the fact that CCP has said they will continue to work on DUST (specifically balance and PC 2.0).
I will likely be playing DUST for as long as it is around.
How do you kill that which has no life?
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:35:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Most games do not even do this. They are released in one, final, complete package that never gets updated or completely revamped like Dust's patches did.
To me it sounds like this is the only reason you invested time into this game. Why? It was never promised to you upon downloading it.
So you're telling me that you never want to be that OP Combat Rifle using brick tanked Scout you loved so much anymore, just because they're not updating the game anymore?
You got what you wanted. You earned skill points and you invested them. In fact the game is still running and you can still use your character the way you always intended to.
WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL? Do you invest your time and money into things with unrealistic expectations often? Sure sounds like you all do.
Why? WHY?
There was the HOPE that perhaps that being stuck like a fly on glue will be fixed and other things hopefully WERE going to be fixed.
Now that we have been TOLD no more updates? Dust 514 is no more. NO MORE FIXES.
Options are stay with a buggy game or quit.
QUIT!!
And in case you missed my sig: F U C K Legion!!
F U C K Legion.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:38:00 -
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Same reason why people quit World of Warcraft during the 18 months of Dragon Soul when Blizzard willingly admitted "nothing new until expansion." MMO games continue to work because of advancement. If DUST was as good or competent as a Call of Duty game in regards to shooting mechanics, I doubt people would so obviously leave.
Another might be fear. "My progression won't transfer over so why bother?" It is nihilism. "Nothing I do matters so why bother?" that comes forth from "this game is dead."
Finally, anger. I have to disagree with you about unrealistic expectations. When a company makes a game, says it is going to have all these things Soon (tm), and then goes and creates a new game that is going to have all the things that was promised in our current game, I do not see as believing what CCP was saying as "unrealistic expectations." If DUST was what it currently was and CCP never said things like "10 year development", "player market", or "real, meaningful connection to EVE" than the death of the game would not sting as hard.
DUST is dying but the idea of DUST is going to find a new home. That transition process is our current concern.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:39:00 -
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Every match is scouts and tanks 514, so much fun.
I do still play though.
Well that was fun
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:39:00 -
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bamboo x wrote: You're wrong. This thread is another subject entirely, and its purpose is to ask you people "why?" Why do you think this way?
YOU are choosing to be angry. I am not forcing you to be, nor am I trying to make you angry.
Hmm...
Thread #1 - Involves Quitting/Not Quittting DUST 514 as well. Thread #2 - Asks questions similar to the ones asked here, shares similar assertions, while also making assertions supporting your side of the "argument".
You're not attempting to anger people, yet insulting players in the original post? Seems Legit.
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:39:00 -
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I might agree with you if Dust was anywhere near "complete". |
Derp Fap Squad
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:39:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Options are stay with a buggy game or quit.
Oh, so is that why you guys are so mad? Because I (bamboo x) never had much lag or performance problems with this game. To be honest it has more to do with the strength of your internet connection than anything. I always felt sorry for you guys that do because I guess I just happen to be lucky that my local Comcast is fast and performs well.
I dont know why you guys with lag issues continued to play this game at all, or didn't just upgrade to a better ISP or wireless router or whatever the problem is. |
rpastry
The Rainbow Effect
175
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:41:00 -
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We were promised more integration with eve, we were promised our actions would be part of a bigger picture. A lot of us believed this. A lot of us believed we were playing partly in preparation for what the future held.
Off the shelf box shooters make no such promises. I have no interest in playing them.
I have enjoyed dust and I know nothing lasts forever, but without the potential for growth the game has become far less interesting. I am still playing it for the time being and will keep an eye on Legoin, but I don't think CCP have the resources to deliver on their promises; they have proved that once already.
For these reasons I am looking elsewhere for a game worth playing.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3214
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:42:00 -
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See, here's the problem with comparing Dust to other games. You can't. You're also oversimplifying things.
Point 1: CoD/BF/etc are marketed exactly as they are. Buy game, turn on, shoot people in the face. Rinse and repeat next year with some new stuff. Everyone knows and expects this.
Dust was marketed as an evolving game (seriously, read the f*cking description you posted in your own thread for chrissake) with a "persistent universe" and "ever-changing battle". New game modes, weapons, player markets, have been promised to us for over a year, like a carrot on a string.
None were delivered, all while aurum sales were simultaneously pimped, even harder than usual for the past 2 months (you can NOT honestly think that's a coincidence).
Point 2: Perhaps more importantly, if all the stuff we were promised is going to another game (that I'm not going to play because it's on PC) why would I keep playing an unfinished game? That makes no sense!
If I had played Dust for the first time and been told then that most development resources were not being devoted to this game, and that we would never have a market, or PvE, or whatever. Guess what? I wouldn't have kept playing because the game is just not that good in it's present state
CCP can do whatever the f*ck they want with their own intellectual property, that's their right as a business. Misleading us isn't. Neither is a total lack of contrition after horribly handling this whole mess.
As a gamer, I think their decision is lame and don't like it. Whatever. I'm going to go play a better game.
As a consumer, my opinion is that I did not get what I pay for. I think they run their business poorly and don't give 2 sh*ts about their customers. So, I choose to no longer do business with them.
Please note the difference between those two things. Now add them together and you get what you see on the forums. Some people express their displeasure more vigorously than others, but, I mean, this is the internets after all. It's expected.
TL;DR: I'm quitting the game because there are better games. I'm pissed at CCP because they are a crappy company to do business with. 2 separate issues that combine to make forum rage.
Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit!
See you in Destiny
psn: bobswerski
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Derp Fap Squad
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:43:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Same reason why people quit World of Warcraft during the 18 months of Dragon Soul when Blizzard willingly admitted "nothing new until expansion." MMO games continue to work because of advancement. If DUST was as good or competent as a Call of Duty game in regards to shooting mechanics, I doubt people would so obviously leave.
Another might be fear. "My progression won't transfer over so why bother?" It is nihilism. "Nothing I do matters so why bother?" that comes forth from "this game is dead."
Finally, anger. I have to disagree with you about unrealistic expectations. When a company makes a game, says it is going to have all these things Soon (tm), and then goes and creates a new game that is going to have all the things that was promised in our current game, I do not see as believing what CCP was saying as "unrealistic expectations." If DUST was what it currently was and CCP never said things like "10 year development", "player market", or "real, meaningful connection to EVE" than the death of the game would not sting as hard.
DUST is dying but the idea of DUST is going to find a new home. That transition process is our current concern.
So it is as I've said all along. YOU chose to come onto CCP's website and buy into their bullshit, when you could've just taken the product at face value the way it is represented on the PSN store when you download it.
Attim wrote:You're not attempting to anger people
No, but you know what? Since you insist, I will fight fire with fire. I've decided that every time I respond to you I'll use this alt character to highlight that your negative attitude is misplaced. |
RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:43:00 -
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Forget all the Legion stuff, forget the blue donut, forget the time and money invested. I have played a few hours since FF and have yet to see a team with more than 9 players on either side. I'm quitting because this is pathetic and depressing. I'm quitting posting here because what's left to talk about? I'm moving my focus from this game and centering it on Destiny. Groups are forming, theorycrafting is underway, and I already see a lot a familiar faces on those forums. Every game dies. This one is circling the drain and I don't feel that attachment that we all had just last week.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Transmission Failed
The test is now over.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
750
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:47:00 -
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Thank you. These are actually clear, concise and logical points.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go and continue playing the game I've INVESTED EIGHT MONTHS OF MY LIFE INTO.
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:47:00 -
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Dude, you are like a virus, going into all the threads and saying the same bullshit, you are whining about people not playing almost as hard as the people are whining about how CCP lied to us. Ok, well I can look up your posts and will just copy and paste the same thing in all of them for you.
Aszazel wrote:bamboo x wrote:My response to this thread:
Glad I finally realize half the playerbase are a bunch of neckbearded, whining quitters who apparently hold no value in the hard work they've done for hundreds of hours the past year earning millions of SP, getting far too upset to the point of childishness over expecting to be catered to by CCP with constant R&D and updates to the game which was not even promised to them upon downloading said game from PSN (at no cost), but only when they took time out of their day to log onto CCP's website and took it upon themselves to emotionally invest in a bunch of announcements CCP made that were never more than ideas and notions, not content that was promised to them upon purchase or downloading of this product.
I probably will never understand why any of you were only playing this game just to watch it get updated and redone over and over. Who cares if this game has been finished and no longer needs a ton of work? Most games are in fact just like that, and when they are improved upon they are called SEQUELS NOT PATCHES. You sound like a woman, I am not even mad anymore, I come to the forums to see and read about my friends. I didn't expect anything from this game except for CCP to honor what they have always promised, not to run back to back events trying to get as much money as possible from this glitchy turd before they quit development and use everything they learned from us to make a different game. You are complaining that we are complaining that they knew what was in plan for us and suddenly started selling omega boosters again (which hasn't happened in 8 months) and when people stock up and spend money we receive a **** off? Well, you keep making fun of us, but use your other hand to grab some hydrogen peroxide cause ingesting sh!t is pretty bad for you. AMF buddy, you do it good.
Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3214
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:48:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Forget all the Legion stuff, forget the blue donut, forget the time and money invested. I have played a few hours since FF and have yet to see a team with more than 9 players on either side. I'm quitting because this is pathetic and depressing. I'm quitting posting here because what's left to talk about? I'm moving my focus from this game and centering it on Destiny. Groups are forming, theorycrafting is underway, and I already see a lot a familiar faces on those forums. Every game dies. This one is circling the drain and I don't feel that attachment that we all had just last week.
There are Destiny forums already? Hmm... maybe I don't need this Dust forum patch after all...
Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit!
See you in Destiny
psn: bobswerski
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3214
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:49:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Thank you. These are actually clear, concise and logical points.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go and continue playing the game I've INVESTED EIGHT MONTHS OF MY LIFE INTO.
You're welcome.
Also: I wish it was only 8 months I played this game....
Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit!
See you in Destiny
psn: bobswerski
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Proto Annihilator
16 Vandals
174
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:58:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote: Most games are developed by people who know what they are doing. The way i see it every minute spent in game is recouping a loss. We bet on a poor company and payed the price. Getting our moneys worth is the only interest a lot of us have with New Eden now.
but there is absolutely no plan for shutting down Dust, so you can still play it are you mad that it's not going on PS4 yet? i hope you realize they still might do it Yes, YOU had an unrealistic expectation and YOU paid the price for it.
The umrealistic expectation you describe is taking CCP at face value and believing the things they said. nice argument it highlights my opinion of you and CCP. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:58:00 -
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When I started playing it, it was because it was free. I stayed because I liked it and wanted to move out of academy. The game needed various fixes back then, so I didn't play it everyday like I did until a couple days ago.
So, bit by bit, things started improving. We got updates and things were getting fixed here and there. My Knives actually hit people now! We got a better UI! And I made it here just when it "released", I wonder how long did beta (closed or open) vets waited for these things.
By this time, I started enjoying the game and going as far as to recruit a few friends. I joined the Forum Game and started discussing things about the game with people who had similar interests. I found out what the community had been promised and I eagerly played and waited until we get PvE, market, and a full set of Gallente gear.
For a while, all was good, but then Fanfest '14 came and basically announced Dust was getting it's own grave. I was a bit disappointed and sad. Why now? Why not before? Weren't we going to be around for 10 years? Weren't we going to get PvE? Market? Fauna? Drones?
I've been playing so that I would be ready to enjoy all that to its maximum potential. With those promises gone and me having done a little bit of everything, what is there to do? Get proto everything? There's no point to that if I can't enjoy it.
Now, even though Dark Souls 2 is not getting updates, at least it's fun and a proper release with unbroken promises. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
3969
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:19:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Most games do not even do this. They are released in one, final, complete package that never gets updated or completely revamped like Dust's patches did.
To me it sounds like this is the only reason you invested time into this game. Why? It was never promised to you upon downloading it.
So you're telling me that you never want to be that OP Combat Rifle using brick tanked Scout you loved so much anymore, just because they're not updating the game anymore?
You got what you wanted. You earned skill points and you invested them. In fact the game is still running and you can still use your character the way you always intended to.
WHY IS IT SUCH A BIG DEAL? Do you invest your time and money into things with unrealistic expectations often? Sure sounds like you all do.
Because it's a bad game and without iteration it will continue to be a bad game. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
639
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:20:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Atiim wrote:bamboo x wrote: That's a load of bullshit and you know it. It's a logical question. It's for the purpose of discussion not anger and insult.
You and I both know what kind of responses your going to receive, and you and I both know that the actual purpose of this thread is to flame and anger players. If that wasn't the case, you would have asked this question in the other 2 threads you've created, as opposed to creating yet another one. Don't forget, spamming is against the rules as well. -HAND You're wrong. This thread is another subject entirely, and its purpose is to ask you people "why?" Why do you think this way? YOU are choosing to be angry. I am not forcing you to be, nor am I trying to make you angry.
Why do I think the way I do? Logic and the ability to discern facts. You may be right that people had unrealistic expectations of the game but it is silly to place the blame on those who believed the deception rather than the one perpetuating it. It is even sillier to then suggest that we continue to believe those who committed the deception.
I'm not that mad. Things change, but CCP undoubtedly deceived its playerbase and milked them for money before the announcement. If you are fine with that, ok, but don't suppose others should be.
Because, that's why.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
8134
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:35:00 -
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Derp Fap Squad wrote: No, but you know what? Since you insist, I will fight fire with fire. I've decided that every time I respond to you I'll use this alt character to highlight that your negative attitude is misplaced.
Go ahead.
I wonder how long it will take for the GMs to rename your character to "Caldari Mercenary 01234"
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1691
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:40:00 -
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Derp Fap Squad wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Options are stay with a buggy game or quit.
Oh, so is that why you guys are so mad? Because I (bamboo x) never had much lag or performance problems with this game. To be honest it has more to do with the strength of your internet connection than anything. I always felt sorry for you guys that do because I guess I just happen to be lucky that my local Comcast is fast and performs well. I dont know why you guys with lag issues continued to play this game at all, or didn't just upgrade to a better ISP or wireless router or whatever the problem is.
Gee all those falling past the map and other bugs were due to bad internet?? FATAL ERROR was due to bad internet?
CCP lapdog mascot.....lol.
Talk to the sig.
F U C K Legion.
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ISuperstar
DIOS X. II
257
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:45:00 -
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I think OP is most likely an idiot. Possibly just a bad troll, but the characteristics of an idiot are all there. |
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