You must not be talking about sales wise right? Or profit right? Or even user base right? Or cost efficiency?

I wonder..... is this dummy going to try to dispute any of these things, I wait eagerly.

ive made my point pcs are for doing work sure u can play games on it but its not a game machine, consoles ar specificly built to be consumer friendly low cost game machines with ten year development lifespans with no third party software needed, its just easier to deal with a console over a computer time and cost wise, thats why they make a lot of them and sell a lot of them too

ive made my point pcs are for doing work sure u can play games on it but its not a game machine, consoles ar specificly built to be consumer friendly low cost game machines with ten year development lifespans with no third party software needed, its just easier to deal with a console over a computer time and cost wise, thats why they make a lot of them and sell a lot of them too

You must not be talking about sales wise right? Or profit right? Or even user base right? Or cost efficiency?

I wonder..... is this dummy going to try to dispute any of these things, I wait eagerly.

That's like saying a sports car is for racing at the track while a minivan is for driving on the street. All of the sudden the sports car can't drive on the street?

My PC is made for gaming, I built it Summer 2010 and its already better than the PS4 at gaming. The only reason PS4's are for 'gaming' is because Sony shells out tons of cash for console exclusivity. There is no other reason a PC can't play a PS4 game better than the PS4 can.

To have a PC that was around before Skyrim, that can max out skyrim.... you would have needed at the very least a GTX 480 or 295 GTX at that time.... you know a $600 card at that time. Thats right, you needed to spend $600 (which is a Ps4 and idk... 7-8 brand new games with trade ins, or ~ 6 years of PSPlus and 103+ free games) You spent that to be cutting edge for ~1 year.

Can a GTX 480 really run everything maxxed out anymore (the answer is lol no.)

IF you made a PC in 2010 that is better for gaming than a Ps4... well I guess you spent 2k+ on it due to the fact that the best GFX card you could have (over $600) was the GTX 480, of which you would need between 2-3 in SLI in order to match the Ps4, oh you must have had a pretty badass board ($250+) in order to facilitate that, oh and a ton of ram ($200+), that isn't to mention the expensive powersupply that you would need to use, or the fact that your electrical bill just from the past 3 years could have bought you a PS4 with 4-5 years of PSplus (you know 120+ free games).

My cards were released in late 2010, run skyrim at max, at 1920x1200, with minimal loading. I can play current games that came out today at max or near max same resolution with no issues.

Try again pleb.

Oh no I guess you're right, I was off a year. June 2011 I bought a GTX 570 for 300. Bought a second one used last year for 125.

I never said that PCs were cheaper, but to say that PCs are for doing work and that consoles are for gaming is ignorant and wrong.

You know what you wrote is the equivalent of banging your head on the keyboard? Actually you may have come up with a more intellegent response that way.

#1, best card around skyrim's release (a 3 year old game btw) was GTX 480

#2 you said cards, that implies you bought $1200 worth of cards, or enough to buy a Ps4 three times over.

#3 of course PC games haven't increased in requirements too much since 2010, most PC games use consoles as their primary development platform, you get our leftovers. As soon as development switches entirely to PS4/Xbox1 you guys can finally start spending $1200 every two years again for 10% more performance LOL.

I'm talking about the ability to run a next gen game.

PC or $400.00 PS4?

Well now, a ps3/ps4 with:
a G27 racing wheel & Wheel stand pro $500.00
50 Sony Bravia $2500.00
Samsung surround sound $300.00
External AMP and pro ear cans $370.00
Comfy couch-priceless

and yes, a P7 dual SLI PC
--**** UE4 has no sli support what a POS, console optimized game engine

FU

You can have that exact same setup with a PC, and better performance.

Just sayin'

You can have that exact same setup with a PC, and better performance.

Just sayin'

HARDWARE arguments are for turd-nerdley's, the battle was won along time ago and was over CONTENT.

1. You dont have to buy the top of the line card just to play games at max. My cards at release were only about 300 each, and have been dropping since. Guess what, the least you will see a PS4 for in 10 years is still 250$, talk about getting ripped off.
2. LOL see #1
3. Games arnt all about graphics. PC games can have higher player counts that your peasant box cant handle. Also, lol, Ive been enjoying my coop Rome 2 campaign with my former Dust bro. Tell me, where can I get (good) strategy games on console?

You can have that exact same setup with a PC, and better performance.

Just sayin'

Going to PC ensures that a quality PS4 port happens, faster, so the console argument goes out the window, and it just sounds like you expected this game to sit on PS3 for forever.

Rome 2 a good strategy game ? bicht plz a Heavily modded Rome total 1 is better.

With mods, yea. Cant do mods on a console can you?

With mods, yea. Cant do mods on a console can you?

Yea, why dont they spend time and money working on saving a project that is bleeding clients on dead technology?

This is not an issue, PC is way more powerful ... but the issue is Dust was unique due to being multi-platform. If Legion/Eve/Valkyrie are all on PC this just adds to the time sink on one universe/platform ... Dust clones are the tormented infantry grunts of New Eden... and Dust is actually functioning well enough that CCP could try reach out to the players that ran from Dust514 at first sight of the lazy NPE

My PC was made before Skyrim but it plays skyrim at max specs, while heavily modded.

So, I seem to be missing your point.

Just to clarify, gaming desktops have potentially far superior graphics capabilities compared to consoles. Agreed. They also have better social networking tools, mod communities, and so forth.

What they don't have is a low barrier to entry, in either technical knowledge or cost. Sure, the claim is made that consoles reach obsolescence sooner than desktops, but that's not the entire story--consoles are active gaming platforms for usually about 5 - 7 years. In those 5 - 7 years, developers learn the hardware so well that they can maximize its potential. This isn't to say that consoles at this point outperform desktops graphically, it's just to point out that there are graphical improvements over the lifetime of these systems.

Desktops
Pros: better graphics, better social networking, mod communities, better distro services (eg, Steam--can't wait for Steam machines!), extensible, etc.
Cons: Expensive to upkeep (ie, to perpetually run the highest graphics settings), not comfortable to play from a couch, KB/M is typically only viable option for many games, can't multiplay locally without another machine

Consoles
Pros: Ease-of-use/low barrier to entry, more affordable, can play comfortably from almost any position on any piece of furniture, can multiplay locally with one machine
Cons: Less awesome distro services, lack of social networking, non-extensible, inferior graphics, controller is only viable option for most games

Graphics aside (which seem to me the most contentious issue, and which I agree PC pwns), it really comes down to cost/personality. In my experience, PC gaming is almost always much more involved/serious than console gaming, and forces me to sit at a desk to play, which I hate because I work on computers all day for a living. KB/M versus controller is also mostly a matter of what games you play (eg, good luck trying to play DOTA with an XBOX 360 controller, and likewise using KB/M for fighting games or fast-paced platformers). In most cases, either can be used effectively, but they each have their strengths.

PlanetSide 2 FTW!

Browsing responses and You Sir! have too much time on your hands, initially you comment PC is better, for no real need... now your boasting on your PC...... Dust was set to be a console shooter, ps3 hopefully ps4 ... The reason gamers are reacting badly to Legion is they will join ****stains like you on PC platform... I will be on later to respond to actual replies to this thread