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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:04:00 -
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Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2953
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:05:00 -
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In our corp we have had quite a few players start Eve and fly with the eggers.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
5211
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:07:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
I have yet to run into a single EVE player that's been condescending just because one of our Dust guys decided to pick up the game.
I can't really speak from personal experience because I'm coming up on 6 years of EVE.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
1354
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:10:00 -
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Like in every game there are good and bad guys.
Most of the people I played EVE with were good people that helped me and taught me the basics while some were basically telling me to "git gud" but with added derogatory slang.
State your stance on EVE:Legion
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Foley Jones
Huogikku Corporation
542
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:11:00 -
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Well I was in the roleplay crowd with 60 different eve players for a year...
Then I started to play eve and I was given alot of free ****, money and 2 30 subs for my account
Yeah I would say EVE players will accept yiu if your a nice guy..
MY SP BRINGS ALL THE MERCS TO THE CHANNEL AND THEY ARE LIKE "Do you wanna squad up?" DAMN RIGHT I WANNA SQUAD UP
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
3036
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:12:00 -
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EvE is very welcoming to any duster iv found. Its only select members of their fourm communty thst are twats which seems to be theam in ccp communtys :-P
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? I have yet to run into a single EVE player that's been condescending just because one of our Dust guys decided to pick up the game. I can't really speak from personal experience because I'm coming up on 6 years of EVE.
Im sure its just a toxic minority in eve. I would love to have the title rogue fiance in eve. |
tastzlike chicken
Rogue Spades
259
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:12:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
Absolutely not. Besides, gank 'em back.
I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3927
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:15:00 -
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Eve players hate eve players.
What makes you think they'll like you? |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:16:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Eve players hate eve players.
What makes you think they'll like you?
True 8) |
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Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
255
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:18:00 -
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The problem with Eve isn't really related to being from Dust as much as it's being a newbie in a game that's 10 years old. You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. And there's not much you can do about it, either, if you don't have the backup of a real corporation. And getting anywhere in the game sadly requires forays into the wilds of lowsec, especially if you want to actually make any kind of isk. It's this that's kept me from playing the game, I really hate PVP in MMOs. Nothing breaks my immersion worse than that. |
VINGTHOR LYNN
D3LTA FORC3
C0VEN
2
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:26:00 -
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My corp is a hybrid corp that focused mostly on FW and PC on DUST in the beginning... Then as people got burned out more and more started playing EVE. Now we are part of a very fun nullsec alliance and are fully engaged in PVP in space with the very best. Our CEO, once a 100% PS3/FPS player is leading the charge. |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:26:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:The problem with Eve isn't really related to being from Dust as much as it's being a newbie in a game that's 10 years old. You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. And there's not much you can do about it, either, if you don't have the backup of a real corporation. And getting anywhere in the game sadly requires forays into the wilds of lowsec, especially if you want to actually make any kind of isk. It's this that's kept me from playing the game, I really hate PVP in MMOs. Nothing breaks my immersion worse than that.
Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying |
Jebus McKing
HMG Delivery Service
436
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:31:00 -
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No, noone is welcome in EVE Online.
 
@JebusMcKing
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Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
255
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:34:00 -
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It's not a constant thing, but if your forays are into areas where high-value resources are located then you can pretty much guarantee that there's people camping the gates leading to it. And CCP doesn't do a thing about it because they are of the school "Do what you want because a pirate is free, you are a pirate!" No, really, they may not say that exactly but that's their stance on the issue. |
VINGTHOR LYNN
D3LTA FORC3
C0VEN
2
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:35:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:
Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
Well its more about choosing a friendly corp that sticks together and trains their newbs. Its a steep learning curve but like in our case if you are part of a big alliance you are not abandoned to the wolfs. Still it took us sometime to find a place and we drifted a bit. The mistake we made is we started in hisec space, where all the newbs start, and mostly run missions and did mining. We got wardecked ( challenged into a war by other bigger corps) all the time and it was frustrating. The only way to be safe in EVE is to jump into the deep end, learn PVP and be part of an active and well organised corp. Once you learn the ropes and have some skill you can do anything you like, industry, solo hunting, exploration etc. |
Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2008
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:40:00 -
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I don't think they don't like us.
I'd just not tell them you were a bunny first, then a captain. I have no reason to let them in on my secret...
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1654
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:45:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
Only thing you will hide is that you play eve online.  lol Other thing I play on my rig too, but knock the "master race" ****. It's embarrassing. Those that would consider them selves that are the nerds that get shoved into lockers by other nerds.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:45:00 -
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VINGTHOR LYNN wrote:Hin Raven wrote:
Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
Well its more about choosing a friendly corp that sticks together and trains their newbs. Its a steep learning curve but like in our case if you are part of a big alliance you are not abandoned to the wolfs. Still it took us sometime to find a place and we drifted a bit. The mistake we made is we started in hisec space, where all the newbs start, and mostly run missions and did mining. We got wardecked ( challenged into a war by other bigger corps) all the time and it was frustrating. The only way to be safe in EVE is to jump into the deep end, learn PVP and be part of an active and well organised corp. Once you learn the ropes and have some skill you can do anything you like, industry, solo hunting, exploration etc.
My thinking would be to take it nice and easy in high sec for a month or two then maybe ease into a corp and get fully into the game. After dust and other fps i dont play enough to get good at. Nice and slow would be a nice break. Ill probably just mine in high sec for the first while. |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.05.06 13:50:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? Only thing you will hide is that you play eve online. lol Other thing I play on my rig too, but knock the "master race" ****. It's embarrassing. Those that would consider them selves that are the nerds that get shoved into lockers by other nerds.
I use to love pc gaming too. There are toxic cunts on all platforms. |
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
898
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:11:00 -
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Beyond the normal welcome people get? Maybe some gentle ribbing, if that.
Just find a decent Corp to fly with and you'll be fine - personally I'd recommend RvB (Red vs Blue) for some cheap, good natured PvP, although EVE Uni and Agony are also good options for starter corps. |
Trip X99
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
9
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:15:00 -
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VINGTHOR LYNN wrote:My corp is a hybrid corp that focused mostly on FW and PC on DUST in the beginning... Then as people got burned out more and more started playing EVE. Now we are part of a very fun nullsec alliance and are fully engaged in PVP in space with the very best. Our CEO, once a 100% PS3/FPS player is leading the charge.
I wouldn't exactly call C0VEN the best, seeing as how they are getting their **** pushed in right now, but good to know you guys are having fun in nullsec. |
IR Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness
League of Infamy
165
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:39:00 -
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I'd hope you'd be welcomed given how there's some crossover between the two player bases (I've got both eve and dust players in my corp). Just don't try and wander into low/null sec on your own and you'll be fine. Also it's generally considered good etiquette to not start mining/ratting in a belt someone else is already mining/ratting in. |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:44:00 -
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IR Scifi wrote:I'd hope you'd be welcomed given how there's some crossover between the two player bases (I've got both eve and dust players in my corp). Just don't try and wander into low/null sec on your own and you'll be fine. Also it's generally considered good etiquette to not start mining/ratting in a belt someone else is already mining/ratting in.
Tips like that would be handy it will take me a while to save anyway. |
Carter Moribus
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:10:00 -
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As an EvE player since 2004 I can say that what people have said here is correct, even the stuff that contradicts other stuff - EvE is big enough for almost everything to be true somewhere.
Most EvE players either don't know or don't care about Dust (it's not really a part of EvE in any significant way), so it's highly unlikely anyone will have prejudices, I've certainly never met anyone, the most I've ever heard is "oh that FPS game, is that still going?".
There's a small but very vocal minority that post on the forums that are, let's just say - barely human. They seem to have no social skills at all and tend to cry and/or rage and/or hate just about everything (even the good stuff). Unfortunately they post often and tend to crap up most threads with toxic posts. So avoid the forums and you'll be fine! Most people in-game are actually completely normal (within the usual limits of an MMO community ).
So my advice is play EvE if you like the look of it - there are new players coming in all the time, and the game isn't made in such a way that you'll be at a crazy disadvantage - you can skill into a ship in just a few days that will allow you to play a genuinely useful role in PVP - and IMO the PVP aspect of EvE is what makes it really great. PVE isn't that great, but it's quite fun for a little while and good to do while you're learning about the game (also to make isk ofc).
The most important rule is learn from your mistakes (and if you can, from the mistakes of others!). Scammers, gankers, pirates and everyone else are fed by people doing stupid things. It's natural you're going to make mistakes, but learn from them and you'll be fine!
As other have said, definitely get into a good corp early on, it GREATLY improves the game experience in every possible way.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
832
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:16:00 -
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No one's welcome. That's the point of the game.
Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5.
I might be butthurt, but you'll never know!
A manu dei et tet rimon.
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
132
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:32:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
You're only going to get treated like crap if you come in with this kind of attitude.
Seriously, dude. What is with this "racism" against PC gamers? You DO realize that most of us also play games on console, right? In fact, many PC gamers, like myself, have MULTIPLE consoles.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
104
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:34:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
There are alot of really awesome, intelligent, mature Eve players, No doubt some people may crack a joke at people coming from Dust.
Eve is by far the best online gaming community I have ever been a part of, Probably because of the high average age and the level of complexity keeping total retards away.
There are alot of "Badguys" in Eve, but its all about sometimes exploring your dark side aswell, Eve is the only game that gives this freedom.
Its a small subset of eve players who are arrogant and elitist, no worse then in most other games, most will love being able to introduce a dustie to the spendors of greater Eve.
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Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:41:00 -
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My EVE characters are all in Pandemic Legion. We sit on low sec gates and pop and pod ANYONE that comes into Amamake from Ossogur (when we are there) and we do not care if you were from DUST or WoW or any other game. When we are camping a gate our challenge is to get EVERYTHING that comes through. The challenge to catch cloakys and pods and shuttles as well as the big stuff. We also compete with each other by bringing as much Alpha as possible with Remote Sensor boosters on alts etc to get our scan res as high as possible so we can pop ships before our corp mates can even lock them.
We are total 100% a**holes.
But, in other situations, we take our top FCs and we help run fleets in newbie friendly corps like Brave Newbies and TEST and things of that like. The sound on comms when newbros see a Titan bridge their Talwar fleet and being lead by the likes of famous EVE FCs like Shadoo or Elise Randolph is awesome to see/hear.
EVE and it's players are a unique beast. |
Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
132
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:42:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile.
This is a stereotype Carebear mentality.
Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:45:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
if you play the victim in EVE you'll be treated as one. if you go announcing you're a new pilot from dust, then yes. some eve nerd will make his mission to grief you. if you keep from running your mouth you will probably be fine. all it takes is one message in a chat channel to get someone to hunt you. so making some small talk like "i'm a dust play who loves to mine in sector XYZ" = you're going to have a problem. |
ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:00:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:The problem with Eve isn't really related to being from Dust as much as it's being a newbie in a game that's 10 years old. You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. And there's not much you can do about it, either, if you don't have the backup of a real corporation. And getting anywhere in the game sadly requires forays into the wilds of lowsec, especially if you want to actually make any kind of isk. It's this that's kept me from playing the game, I really hate PVP in MMOs. Nothing breaks my immersion worse than that. Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
with a lot of thinking involved and the right fit yes you can run blockades known as gate camps. the carebare above doesn't know what he's talking about. the gate camps exist right on the border of low sec high sec before you enter into vast sections of un claimed space with few players because they are too lazy to go that far into null sec, most people just PVP on the border of low sec/high sec because an ideal trading station is close by. by studying your map and learning to recognize and predict player pirate patterns you can go in and out of null sec with ease (you have to go back to high sec to sell your stuff from null sec, and run the one main gate camp that will be 1 sector outside of high sec, so you use a disposable ship for this)
EVE isn't a game where you get proto stomped it's a game where you mess up because you don't fully know what your doing. if you get stomped it's because you missed a step somewhere. EVE allows you to out think your opponent on many levels. |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:10:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? You're only going to get treated like crap if you come in with this kind of attitude. Seriously, dude. What is with this "racism" against PC gamers? You DO realize that most of us also play games on console, right? In fact, many PC gamers, like myself, have MULTIPLE consoles.
Sorry your right i use to pc game myself and i have 3 consoles. Its just some pc players really believe there are superior but i know they are a minority. Apologies |
Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
599
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:14:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
I started playing EVE, joined up with a corp and loving it, lost a couple ships as to be expected, and remember to stay out of Jita this time of year.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories
Sisters of EVE Initiate.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:20:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? You're only going to get treated like crap if you come in with this kind of attitude. Seriously, dude. What is with this "racism" against PC gamers? You DO realize that most of us also play games on console, right? In fact, many PC gamers, like myself, have MULTIPLE consoles. Sorry your right i use to pc game myself and i have 3 consoles. Its just some pc players really believe there are superior but i know they are a minority. Apologies
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Force Seventrum
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
15
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:22:00 -
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Of course they will ... everybody loves bunnies ... dont they?
Kidding... EVE is a hard game but the community welcomes everyone.
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2751
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:23:00 -
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I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:26:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap.
Is the solo experience any use? I really like the lore of eve |
Tallen Ellecon
1888
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:29:00 -
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There are a few reasons why EVE players wouldn't be nice to you being from Dust
A) PC master race looking down on you, small group.
B) Those who had wanted Dust on PC and are jealous.... they got their wish anyway.
C) Those that feel that Dust did nothing but slow down progress in EVE, and hate it for existing at all.
For the most part all those people are assholes anyway, and not the majority. They would be assholes to you no matter where you came from, and New Eden is full of them. They are already established and feel that everything that doesn't directly benefit them, like helping new players and expanding the player base, is something that hurts them.
As a Dust player you have some experiences and stories that Eve players can relate to and may even be interested in. Also being established in both games makes you a valuable asset to a lot of corps looking foward to possible future interactions.
I'd recommend E-Uni if you don't have a corp in mind already. My EVE character was with them for my first year and they're great at answering questions and teaching you whatever you need to know (and there is a lot to learn).
 
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Hecarim Van Hohen
1359
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:31:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs.
This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe.
State your stance on EVE:Legion
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:34:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs. This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe.
That sounds cool. |
Tallen Ellecon
1888
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:43:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs. This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe. That sounds cool.
Yes one thing New Eden isn't in short supply of is people who will kick your ass, and then help you back up and tell you how to avoid it in the future. Heck my alliance went on a roam in Gal FW space and we reimbursed all the pilots we destroyed who were less than 2 months old.
People want fights, so they'd rather you be ready for a fight than run away.
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Zortaur Vaax
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
The 11th Hour Alliance
1
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:43:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would i be ganked so much that the game would be unplayable?
Not at all. It depends of course on the corporation you work with or join. I play eve and dust both (although dust not as much as I would like). A friendly corporation like ours  will teach you how to handle all kinds of situations. Knowing what to do to survive is key, same as in dust. So pick a goal, make a plan, learn from your mistakes and be committed, then you will be ready to face the harsh worlds in space and on the ground.
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Force Seventrum
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
18
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:45:00 -
[44] - Quote
EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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Dr Dammit
Sognariket Logistics
21
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:22:00 -
[45] - Quote
Force Seventrum wrote:EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think
Yeah, Eve-Uni are (usually) nice people. My two month old alt was ganked by one of their gate-camps, and two minutes later I received an apology from their fleet commander explaining that they weren't supposed to kill newbies, and would I like a reimbursement?
And lowsec really isn't as bad as people say. You just have to know which systems to avoid. Once you're out there and past the gate-camps, it's pretty much deserted. I've been playing solo in lowsec for two years, and have been ganked a grand total of one time (other than the Eve-Uni camp), and that was because I wasn't paying attention. |
ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:24:00 -
[46] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap. Is the solo experience any use? I really like the lore of eve
it can be but once you go for ot ever so long without ever joining a corp you screw yourself out of ever joining one because not ever joining a corp shows on your history that you've been playing for so long and have no history of joining a corp, if you do decide to finally join one most doors will be shut to you because of your history of never joining a corp they suspect your some kind of spy or griefer. i made this mistake. and you'll eventually want to join a corp because the game is severely limited without other players to band with. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2755
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap. Is the solo experience any use? I really like the lore of eve
Just like Dust... it'll take a few months before you have the core skills necessary to hold your own in low sec pvp. You can solo all you want in high sec though.
Nice thing about Eve is the idea of tiercide. Just because someone is in a battleship doesnt mean you stand no chance in pvp. I venture into low sec solo a lot myself (I tend to avoid pvp atm because I lack the core skills necessary). I've lost a few ships but making money is easier in eve with all of the pve options.
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inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:27:00 -
[48] - Quote
Bro they wont even welcome you on their forums |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:27:00 -
[49] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:Or would i be ganked so much that the game would be unplayable?
They are unbelievable d-cks. On top of that EvE online is basically Goons online.
To explain what I mean by Goons online. Eve has never had a great community, it has always been filled with griefers and neckbeards. When the Goons showed up, even that griefer/neckbeard filled community looked down on (and were disgusted by) Goons. Now the Goons have infected the society of eve and it is more or less goons online.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:29:00 -
[50] - Quote
Dr Dammit wrote:Force Seventrum wrote:EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think Yeah, Eve-Uni are (usually) nice people. My two month old alt was ganked by one of their gate-camps, and two minutes later I received an apology from their fleet commander explaining that they weren't supposed to kill newbies, and would I like a reimbursement? And lowsec really isn't as bad as people say. You just have to know which systems to avoid. Once you're out there and past the gate-camps, it's pretty much deserted. I've been playing solo in lowsec for two years, and have been ganked a grand total of one time (other than the Eve-Uni camp), and that was because I wasn't paying attention.
Lovely thats the pace i want |
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:38:00 -
[51] - Quote
inohahna mamotto wrote:Bro they wont even welcome you on their forums
I avoided these forums for ages. Forums can get toxic at least these do anyway. |
ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:39:00 -
[52] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:Dr Dammit wrote:Force Seventrum wrote:EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think Yeah, Eve-Uni are (usually) nice people. My two month old alt was ganked by one of their gate-camps, and two minutes later I received an apology from their fleet commander explaining that they weren't supposed to kill newbies, and would I like a reimbursement? And lowsec really isn't as bad as people say. You just have to know which systems to avoid. Once you're out there and past the gate-camps, it's pretty much deserted. I've been playing solo in lowsec for two years, and have been ganked a grand total of one time (other than the Eve-Uni camp), and that was because I wasn't paying attention. Lovely thats the pace i want
this is true.. i've lost a total of maybe 4 battlecruisers going in and out of null sec for about a years time. those lost ships i learned what to do next time to keep from loosing them again, they were not PVP ships and were used to blow up and loot NPCs in null sec (which is technically more dangerous than low sec) i would go for hours killing NPCs and maybe see 1 player every 3 hours come and check me out, i would cloak up, watch youtube and then he leaves after about 10 minutes and i go back to my business of looting NPCs. |
tastzlike chicken
Rogue Spades
266
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:39:00 -
[53] - Quote
Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links...
I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:44:00 -
[54] - Quote
tastzlike chicken wrote:Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links...
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Hecarim Van Hohen
1363
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:33:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:tastzlike chicken wrote:Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links... Which game has the worse sociopaths eve or dust?
I'd say that the PC and the console communities have the worst sociopaths you could ever find
State your stance on EVE:Legion
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1689
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:35:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:In our corp we have had quite a few players start Eve and fly with the eggers.
Yours is the funniest GIF sig I've seen yet +1000 lmao
The Sinwarden
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byte modal
70
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:41:00 -
[57] - Quote
As others have said, you'll be fine. Just don't go running your mouth in local or being a tool, painting a target on your back. Of course you start in hi-sec with a starter corp that is always full of useful info. It is inevitable that you will be shot down without warning jumping in the middle of a gate camp or from time to time you may be scanned down and located while running solo missions or mining. In my very passive experience, it doesn't happen often.
You will be fine solo, as well. I've always treated EvE as my chill-the-ferk-out game. The music really helps, and the slow pace of mission running has always helped me unwind, with the occasional PVP attempt keeping things interesting.
I'm sure things have changed since I've really spent my last year or more in DUST, but you can get the principle of my meaning in the following:
- You start low running missions, but work your way to low sec for higher pay missions or more valuable mining (assuming you're seriously considering solo game). Explore in shuttles if you're worried of getting killed and losing gear. Pay attention to where your low-sec missing givers are relatively to high-sec gate access points. That jump from .5 to .4 space may get more attention than a gate 2 jumps deeper into low-sec. Spend some time in local and pay attention to the traffic. If your neck of the woods normally only ever has 1-3 others doing there thing then some kat enters local chat with some crazy bounty or security status, then maybe mind your surroundings a bit more until that player leaves.
- If you're mining or mission running, try to keep yourself aligned to a station or gate that you know is safe. Before you can "warp away" your ship must first turn to face the direction of your warp destination. Depending on your skills, ship class, modules equipped, PVE/PVP enemy ships and eWar, it may take too much time to get your hull turned around to even initiate warp. If you pre-align as you play, you're just one step close to escape should you need it.
- Same for gate to gate warping I guess. Align while cloaked, then warp. The logic is, spend the time turning your ship to the next warp destination while taking advantage of the momentary warp cloak as you appear invisible for a few seconds after a gate jump. Better spend the time doing that, than hitting the warp button, auto-decloaking, THEN auto-aligning before warp showing yourself to anyone passively looking to shoot at something.
- Set mid-warp bookmarks for a temp safe spot if you're being hunted.
- Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Insurance exists!
- You can cover partial expense of loss for your ship. It ranges in value and cost.
- Pay attention to your jump clone/medical clone backup. Unlike DUST, your skillpoints and any implants are tied directly to your clone. So for example: you have 4million ISK worth of implants stuck inside your head and you're flying around minding your own with around 1.5m skill points. If you are killed (ship shields then armor then hull then "pod", and your pod is destroyed) you lose those implants. More importantly, you lose those skill points. UNLESS you have purchased a clone backup to cover any lost skill points. This is also based on amount and varies in price depending on the total number of skill points covered. So if you're flying around with 1.5m SP, make a clone that will protect you up to 3-4m SP. Should you die, you're covered. Do not lose track of that :)
uuuuh. Drones are super fun.
Idunno. I'm at work and bored out of my mind. Sorry for the ramblings. Feel free to correct me if wrong, or add to.
- meow.
Irony: Post #35
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byte modal
70
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:48:00 -
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Oh. and sorta back on point!
I've had an EvE account longer than I can remember. Ever since first picking up "planetary vehicles" or "marines" cargo for early missions I've always been jazzed by the idea of entering a planetary atmosphere in some form of transport ship and setting foot on the surface of that planet---as an EvE player. Even if it meant just transporting military units of some type to a planet knowing that they could access the surface has always been an in-game fantasy. For more EvE players than you'd think. Walking in station is as close as that ever got for us and even that is more like what you get in your merc quarters. The main difference being we get to style our hair and stuff =\
So, yeah. DUST (in concept at least), is cool to a lot of pilots. IMHO.
Also, I think judging by the replies you're getting, you can see where the vile is regarding forum attitudes. EvE/DUST hybrids are here with their hands out to support and invite.
All the best,
- me.
Irony: Post #35
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
846
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:50:00 -
[59] - Quote
they will bank you because it is fun and because they can not because you come from Dust.
Public Relations
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
180
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:50:00 -
[60] - Quote
try posting that question on the EVE forum, Im not trolling.
Id be interested in the responses, been concidering EVE myself |
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Tallen Ellecon
1890
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:12:00 -
[61] - Quote
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Hin Raven wrote:tastzlike chicken wrote:Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links... Which game has the worse sociopaths eve or dust? I'd say that the PC and the console communities have the worst sociopaths you could ever find
PC gamer here, and I agree. It should be no surprise that some of the biggest Dust sociopaths came from EVE (including myself)
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:49:00 -
[62] - Quote
byte modal wrote:Oh. and sorta back on point!
I've had an EvE account longer than I can remember. Ever since first picking up "planetary vehicles" or "marines" cargo for early missions I've always been jazzed by the idea of entering a planetary atmosphere in some form of transport ship and setting foot on the surface of that planet---as an EvE player. Even if it meant just transporting military units of some type to a planet knowing that they could access the surface has always been an in-game fantasy. For more EvE players than you'd think. Walking in station is as close as that ever got for us and even that is more like what you get in your merc quarters. The main difference being we get to style our hair and stuff =\
So, yeah. DUST (in concept at least), is cool to a lot of pilots. IMHO.
Also, I think judging by the replies you're getting, you can see where the vile is regarding forum attitudes. EvE/DUST hybrids are here with their hands out to support and invite.
All the best,
- me.
Thanks eve will be my chill out game also |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:52:00 -
[63] - Quote
waistr wrote:try posting that question on the EVE forum, Im not trolling.
Id be interested in the responses, been concidering EVE myself
Think you need an eve account to post there. |
Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
137
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs. This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe.
Confirming. Sometimes, I share fits with guys I kill. If he turns on me and actually puts up a good fight with his PvE ship, I can occasionally be inspired to pay for his loss and give some advice to help him improve his fighting-back ability. Every now and again, when a noob REALLY impresses me with his ability to defend himself and accept a lossmail with a smile, I'll recruit him into SMERG.
In any case, as long as the guy I kill doesn't rage out at me (as most actual carebears will, sadly), I always let him know that I really want him to grow, improve, and come back with a bigger/badder ship for revenge, someday. Every player that quits EVE is one less target, and I'd rather have a good brawl than a one-sided insta-blap, any day.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10171
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:58:00 -
[65] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:Or would i be ganked so much that the game would be unplayable?
A member of Snuffbox I once knew taught me a lesson in EVE I will never forget.
He says to me, back before I ever made True Adamance mind you or even got into the lore of the game, "Oi Harkon come out to Tannolen I want to show you what a well fit T3 looks like."
Me being a poor little newbie, and highly suspicious of him, for good reason, warps out there.
Tackled, Locked, and already typing in local "Gimme 100M ISK or I'll pod you."
I sit there chuckling as he blasts me to atoms.
No...... its not a nice place. You will soon find that New Eden is too big, and you are far too small to achieve a great deal.
Markdown:
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
364
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:58:00 -
[66] - Quote
You'd be ganked no more than anyone else in Eve. Forum wise they have more moderators on the Eve forums than Dust (was considering volunteering for ISD to help moderate these forums, but I'm not sure if that system is in place here), so its decidedly toned down.
Also, in Eve you can chill in the "Mostly Harmless" Hi-sec and mine Scordite for a safe source of income. Give a question on Local and odds are some one will answer. Avoid fleet invites that ask you to jump several systems over, however. Those might be trolls.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Dirt Nap Squad.
1809
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:48:00 -
[67] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:Or would i be ganked so much that the game would be unplayable?
a dust player can start getting solo kills in eve online within 2 weeks.
a guy joined us in eve and got his first kill on day 9, first solo on day 12.
skill high-speed maneuvering, acceleration control, evasive maneuvering, and navigation to level 5 as fast as you can
only skill other things up to the level that you ABSOLUTELY have to to fit what you need to fit.
join 'the condor bar' and tell anybody fuegos sent you.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Dirt Nap Squad.
1809
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:52:00 -
[68] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:VINGTHOR LYNN wrote:Hin Raven wrote:
Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
Well its more about choosing a friendly corp that sticks together and trains their newbs. Its a steep learning curve but like in our case if you are part of a big alliance you are not abandoned to the wolfs. Still it took us sometime to find a place and we drifted a bit. The mistake we made is we started in hisec space, where all the newbs start, and mostly run missions and did mining. We got wardecked ( challenged into a war by other bigger corps) all the time and it was frustrating. The only way to be safe in EVE is to jump into the deep end, learn PVP and be part of an active and well organised corp. Once you learn the ropes and have some skill you can do anything you like, industry, solo hunting, exploration etc. My thinking would be to take it nice and easy in high sec for a month or two then maybe ease into a corp and get fully into the game. After dust and other fps i dont play enough to get good at. Nice and slow would be a nice break. Ill probably just mine in high sec for the first while.
don't do this. please. go out and get into fights in low sec as fast as you can
high sec is for shopping.
the advantage that people have is combat experience. go get experience.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
887
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:52:00 -
[69] - Quote
Sure you are welcome.
But we will try to kill you.
Nothing personal, it's how we roll. Everyone gets the same treatment.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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tastzlike chicken
Rogue Spades
268
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:40:00 -
[70] - Quote
Hin Raven wrote:tastzlike chicken wrote:Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links... Which game has the worse sociopaths eve or dust?
I had made a post a while back with my now biomassed alt that predicted these particular forums would be extra nasty due to the collision of EVE players and MAG vets.
I have to go with EVE though for the win. The mechanics of that game really allow people to indulge their inner sociopath. -so they're more evident.
I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
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tastzlike chicken
Rogue Spades
269
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:52:00 -
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low genius wrote:Hin Raven wrote:VINGTHOR LYNN wrote:Hin Raven wrote:
Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
Well its more about choosing a friendly corp that sticks together and trains their newbs. Its a steep learning curve but like in our case if you are part of a big alliance you are not abandoned to the wolfs. Still it took us sometime to find a place and we drifted a bit. The mistake we made is we started in hisec space, where all the newbs start, and mostly run missions and did mining. We got wardecked ( challenged into a war by other bigger corps) all the time and it was frustrating. The only way to be safe in EVE is to jump into the deep end, learn PVP and be part of an active and well organised corp. Once you learn the ropes and have some skill you can do anything you like, industry, solo hunting, exploration etc. My thinking would be to take it nice and easy in high sec for a month or two then maybe ease into a corp and get fully into the game. After dust and other fps i dont play enough to get good at. Nice and slow would be a nice break. Ill probably just mine in high sec for the first while. don't do this. please. go out and get into fights in low sec as fast as you can high sec is for shopping. the advantage that people have is combat experience. go get experience.
Yeah, don't do that. Or don't do it exclusively or for long. I did that and was about to quit the game/take a long break.
-Then I met some crazy hair-on-fire theorycrafting PvP'ers named eatsbabies cienfuegos and Johnny Freedom and 3 or 4 other people. We did a thing. One of the most enjoyable gaming experiences I've ever had.
I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Dirt Nap Squad.
1815
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:55:00 -
[72] - Quote
tastzlike chicken wrote:low genius wrote:Hin Raven wrote:VINGTHOR LYNN wrote:Hin Raven wrote:
Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
Well its more about choosing a friendly corp that sticks together and trains their newbs. Its a steep learning curve but like in our case if you are part of a big alliance you are not abandoned to the wolfs. Still it took us sometime to find a place and we drifted a bit. The mistake we made is we started in hisec space, where all the newbs start, and mostly run missions and did mining. We got wardecked ( challenged into a war by other bigger corps) all the time and it was frustrating. The only way to be safe in EVE is to jump into the deep end, learn PVP and be part of an active and well organised corp. Once you learn the ropes and have some skill you can do anything you like, industry, solo hunting, exploration etc. My thinking would be to take it nice and easy in high sec for a month or two then maybe ease into a corp and get fully into the game. After dust and other fps i dont play enough to get good at. Nice and slow would be a nice break. Ill probably just mine in high sec for the first while. don't do this. please. go out and get into fights in low sec as fast as you can high sec is for shopping. the advantage that people have is combat experience. go get experience. Yeah, don't do that. Or don't do it exclusively or for long. I did that and was about to quit the game/take a long break. -Then I met some crazy hair-on-fire theorycrafting PvP'ers named eatsbabies cienfuegos and Johnny Freedom and 3 or 4 other people. We did a thing. One of the most enjoyable gaming experiences I've ever had.
it was really, really, awesome enso.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
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I dont differentiate from dust players and regular players i shot everyone. |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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byte modal wrote:
- Same for gate to gate warping I guess. Align while cloaked, then warp. The logic is, spend the time turning your ship to the next warp destination while taking advantage of the momentary warp cloak as you appear invisible for a few seconds after a gate jump. Better spend the time doing that, than hitting the warp button, auto-decloaking, THEN auto-aligning before warp showing yourself to anyone passively looking to shoot at something.
Idunno. I'm at work and bored out of my mind. Sorry for the ramblings. Feel free to correct me if wrong, or add to.
- meow.
Ok I'll correct you here. You break cloak as SOON as you move. You cannot activate modules while you have gate cloak. The ONLY thing you can do while holding gate cloak is look around and see what kind of situation you are in.
Stick to fast ships like frigates and you will be caught much less often. Your losses will be easier to recover from as well.
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byte modal
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:40:00 -
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Talryn Vilneram wrote:byte modal wrote:
- Same for gate to gate warping I guess. Align while cloaked, then warp. The logic is, spend the time turning your ship to the next warp destination while taking advantage of the momentary warp cloak as you appear invisible for a few seconds after a gate jump. Better spend the time doing that, than hitting the warp button, auto-decloaking, THEN auto-aligning before warp showing yourself to anyone passively looking to shoot at something.
Idunno. I'm at work and bored out of my mind. Sorry for the ramblings. Feel free to correct me if wrong, or add to.
- meow.
Ok I'll correct you here. You break cloak as SOON as you move. You cannot activate modules while you have gate cloak. The ONLY thing you can do while holding gate cloak is look around and see what kind of situation you are in. Stick to fast ships like frigates and you will be caught much less often. Your losses will be easier to recover from as well.
hrm.
Fair enough. I never sat on gate really, so I've never paid attention to how target icons appear after a gate warp-in. I've only gone on the visual de-cloak animation of my own ship post gate jump which is usually still in transition by the time I hit warp to the next. Can't remember where or why I started doing that (forums most likely) but probably just took it for granted that my appearance was the same to others around me at that stage. I've been very lucky then ;) well... I guess that would explain my Kestrel popping before I even phased in a year or two back lol.
Thanks for the clarification :)
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